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SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 7:33:55 AM)

Since when has Rush become so relavent?....He should be the LEAST of concerns...he has an audience that would NEVER change their minds as to what he says nor would he ever convince someone that disagrees with his stance on anything to find validity in his opinions.
No reason to fan the flames of his vitriol....He reminds me of the Big Time Wrestling Managers I used to see on TV when I was a kid....all mouth and ego....big hat, no cattle.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 7:38:40 AM)

I think Firm buys his jingoisims by the pound... Funny, isn't it, that the moment anyone proves him wrong, he trots out the "Your posts are meaningless drivel" crap. With no reasons to support that opinion. I can now understand why Firm supports Rush and the GOP. They have so much in common.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 7:52:54 AM)

Silvermark,

He's now relevant because of what the Democratic party political operatives are doing.  Please review my link in my last post for details.

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 7:55:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

I think Firm buys his jingoisims by the pound... Funny, isn't it, that the moment anyone proves him wrong, he trots out the "Your posts are meaningless drivel" crap. With no reasons to support that opinion. I can now understand why Firm supports Rush and the GOP. They have so much in common.



You have a point, other than a desire to just make a senseless personal attack on me?

Firm




SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 7:59:22 AM)

That would be there own stupidity Firm....the more that is said the more validity they are giving to someone who deserves so little!...I am certain the RNC from the initial reaction of Steele really doesn't want him out in front as a spokesman for the party. Steele looked weak a few Sundays ago on the tube and Limbaugh is so full of bluster that he isn't held to any standards of honesty let alone integrity, between the DNC and the RNC they are making something out of NOTHING....unless hot air counts?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 8:07:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

However much I dislike conservatism and the Republican party, I believe that a democracy needs a good opposition to the people in power, an opposition that offers a credible alternative to the policy makers. It's a question of balance.


This is probably the only thing we agree about (that I've seen) from you for a long time, kittin.

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 8:08:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

...unless hot air counts?


In politics?  You're kidding, right?  [:D]

Firm




SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 8:11:34 AM)

I know...I know....




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 8:22:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

I find it interesting how the definition of "mainstream conservatisim" keeps changing. They get someone into office, proclaiming: "At last, a true conservative!" Then they support him no matter what... even when he attempts to turn the US into a theocratic totaltarian state...
Then once they've been thrown out on their asses, they step back and say: "Whoa! Now hold on! Bush wasn't a REAL conservative... you can't blame us for the wrecked economy, two wars based on lies, a drowned city, or all the abuses of executive power and assaults on the US Constitution or the Bill of Rights... No, that was Bush... we never really supported HIM...."

Y'know... fuck the GOP and the republicans in general. They're getting exactly what they deserve: political extinction. They were all "good germans" for the last eight years. None of them spoke up, none of them even mumbled under their breath, as Bush, Cheany, Rove and Rumsfeld took us down the path that Osama had hoped we would... turning the US against it's own fundamental pricipals. In fact, they helped us all down this road as often, and as forcefully as they could. They sure as hell weren't debating the merits of the PATRIOT ACT, or PATRIOT II. They just sat back, collected their paychecks and the money from the lobbyists, and stuck America's ass up on the horse and told every corrupt corperation to line up and take a turn fucking us, a.k.a "We the People" raw.

The GOP is marginalized. As the full extent of Bush's malfesance comes to light, with more memos, and more economic disasters going off like time bombs left behind by terrorists, the bulk of the American people will turn away from blithering shitheads like Limbaugh, O'Riley, Hannity, and Buchannan. The "Way Things Ought to Be" Rush? Yeah... we've had a bellyful of that crap... Now let us school your snide, bully ass on "The Way Things Really Are."

GOP = R.I.P, and good riddence to the lot of you failed losers.


Since you don't seem to wish to leave it alone, Mars, lets talk about your certainity that "the Republican Party is dead" ....

Sounds mighty familiar to me ...

From the 2004 political cycle:

June 25, 2004
The Beginning of the End of the Democratic Party

Is this really what has become of the Democratic Party? Is Michael Moore the arbiter of the truth for these people?

...

The depth to which the Democratic Party has sunk is astonishing.

...

The Democrats' new call to arms comes from Moore, a filmmaker with a questionable ability to distinguish between fact and fiction, and who employs clever editing to ridicule his opponents. It is only a matter of time before Moore's own tactics are used against him. The great advocate of the working man once fought an attempt of his employees to unionize, and will not suffer the indignity of an ambush interview, a technique he has exploited repeatedly.

...

But what of the Democratic Party? It is important to have a serious political organization to provide opposition to conservatives, thereby sharpening political arguments, and giving voters a clear choice. America needs a competition of between legitimate ideas coherently argued, and it needs its major parties to be serious about protecting the United States from its obvious enemies.

The Democratic Party is quickly becoming a parody, led by bitter, screeching fools who cannot come to grips with the fact that a duly elected President is boldly leading the fight against those who would destroy us. They cannot see past their own lust for power, and want power only for its own sake.

Another example:

September 2004
The Democratic Party is Toast

The modern Democratic Party cannot survive the reelection of President George W. Bush and another four years of Republican control of both Congress and the White House.

No brag. Just fact.

...

But outside state power, the Democratic coalition withers and dies. Without effective control of the government, the Democratic Party is like a fish out of water, a vampire in the sun, Antaeus held aloft, an appliance unplugged. In the past, the Democratic Party could afford to lose the presidency and remain connected to its source of power--the state--through control of the House of Representatives, and often the Senate as well. Little damage was done to the structure of the Democratic Party during the interregnums of the Eisenhower, Nixon, and George H.W. Bush administrations, because their moves could be checkmated by a Democratic Congress. With the end of 40 years of Democratic gerrymandering, states in which a majority of the congressional popular vote goes to the GOP now award a majority of congressional seats to the GOP, too.

...

Four more years of President Bush will also accelerate one of the most important demographic changes in America over the past 20 years: the number of Americans who own stock.

...

Last, a Bush-Cheney victory in November will create the conditions for a constructive contest among leading Republican governors and senators for the presidential nomination in 2008.

This was bullshit and wishful thinking back then, just as your proclamations are bullshit and wishful thinking now.

Firm




SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 8:53:51 AM)

Moore certainly doesn't set the tone of the Democratic party for me....as I am certain that for the most part Limbaugh doesn't control the Republican party. Hell, Limbaugh's popularity is at about a 27% favorable rating and it doesn't get much higher with just the Republicans than it is amongst non-Republicans. Moore and Limbaugh do share one attribute.....waiste size!...
Any extreme on either side is not that good for the overall performance of their organizations or the general public aside from an argumentative point. Makes the lines easy to see but also clouds the direction of the parties.  




Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 9:18:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

How does it feel to be manipulated by political operatives with an agenda to demonize and vilify in their attempt to gain and maintain power?

You know .... the "politics of personal destruction"?

Are you are member of the easily lead, malleable crowd, or a member of the cynically cold and manipulative elite?

Firm



The sauce for the gander also pours well over the goose...

The Rush Limbaugh Show#Operation Chaos.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Moore has appeal far beyond party politics.That`s one reason the righests loath him.

As for liberal appeal, this reception is a bit colder than the one Limbuagh got from  elected repuplicans.





truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 9:33:41 AM)

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Do you not see it is a little scary that someone who makes his living off of sensationalism is granted this much respect by one of our two major political parties?


No. I see Steele's apology as both real and therefore refreshing.
I see as scary the left's total capitulation to G Soros.




truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 9:42:05 AM)

I skimmed down thru this thread, read many of the posts. I come away with the same impression I always do when I read attacks on Rush: most of his attackers concentrate on the personal (he's fat, was addicted to painkillers, whatever), or his style. Few have much experience with the actual show; fewer attack his positions with any degree of specificity; fewer still attack his overall philosophy. Plus ca change...




FirmhandKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 10:06:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

How does it feel to be manipulated by political operatives with an agenda to demonize and vilify in their attempt to gain and maintain power?

You know .... the "politics of personal destruction"?

Are you are member of the easily lead, malleable crowd, or a member of the cynically cold and manipulative elite?


The sauce for the gander also pours well over the goose...

The Rush Limbaugh Show#Operation Chaos.


I think there is a major difference between a entertainer's suggestion (unfunded and unendorsed by any political party, or government agency) on how to effect political change, and an attempt by the political henchmen of the elected President of the United States to besmirch and destroy the reputation of an unelected individual for political gain (you must have missed that "politics of personal destruction" part).

Perhaps you can't make the distinction.  Which is more a sad commentary on the level of political discourse and belief in this nation than anything else.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Moore has appeal far beyond party politics.That`s one reason the righests loath him.

Idiots abound on all sides of the political spectrum, I'm afraid.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

As for liberal appeal, this reception is a bit colder than the one Limbuagh got from  elected repuplicans.

I rarely click on youtube links.  If you have a point, please expound upon it in words. 

Too much of what's on youtube and is posted for reference here is just a waste of time, and can be summarized in just a few sentences.

Please make your point in your post, and let any youtube video be a detailed reference if you must.

Firm




kittinSol -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 10:31:07 AM)

Where's that stupid dancing banana emoticon? Ah, forget it :-) . Latest development in the Limbaughgate:

"Newt Gingrich became the highest profile Republican yet to push back against Rush Limbaugh, saying on "Meet the Press" that it's "irrational" to hope for the President of the United States to fail.
"You've got to want the president to succeed," said the former House Majority Leader. "You're irrational if you don't want the president to succeed. Because if he doesn't succeed the country doesn't succeed... I don't think anyone should want the president of the United States to fail. I want some of his policies to be stopped. But I don't want the president of the United States to fail. I want him to learn new policies."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/08/gingrich-takes-on-rush-ho_n_172852.html




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 10:54:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Where's that stupid dancing banana emoticon? Ah, forget it :-)


[sm=banana.gif]

That's not just a banana, Kittin - I'm happy to see you.




SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 11:12:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I skimmed down thru this thread, read many of the posts. I come away with the same impression I always do when I read attacks on Rush: most of his attackers concentrate on the personal (he's fat, was addicted to painkillers, whatever), or his style. Few have much experience with the actual show; fewer attack his positions with any degree of specificity; fewer still attack his overall philosophy. Plus ca change...


specficity?....He wants the President of the United States to fail and has said so loudly!....Specifically I disagree with his rather asinine opinion!....specifically....his loud and obnoxious ways are irritating and he pisses people off so bad with the way he says things it takes little to dislike anything else about him. The reaction he brings is exactly what he wants and it is ridiculous to give him the satisfaction of all of the free publicity.
As for the rest....tough to feel sorry for him when he is as pompous as he is, even for the drug addiction issues...his
obesity is far too easy to take a shot at.....how could anyone miss?.....




caringlord -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 11:25:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I skimmed down thru this thread, read many of the posts. I come away with the same impression I always do when I read attacks on Rush: most of his attackers concentrate on the personal (he's fat, was addicted to painkillers, whatever), or his style. Few have much experience with the actual show; fewer attack his positions with any degree of specificity; fewer still attack his overall philosophy. Plus ca change...


specficity?....He wants the President of the United States to fail and has said so loudly!....Specifically I disagree with his rather asinine opinion!....specifically....his loud and obnoxious ways are irritating and he pisses people off so bad with the way he says things it takes little to dislike anything else about him. The reaction he brings is exactly what he wants and it is ridiculous to give him the satisfaction of all of the free publicity.
As for the rest....tough to feel sorry for him when he is as pompous as he is, even for the drug addiction issues...his
obesity is far too easy to take a shot at.....how could anyone miss?.....


There was nothing specific about his policy that you attacked.  You just said his opinion is asinine, which is far from specific or intelligent,  he's obnoxious (personality issue),  loud (personality issue).  As for wanting the president to fail, while I'm no fan of seeing the nation go down, if you completely disagree with someone in control you want to see their plans fail proving you right...where is the issue here?




Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 11:27:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I skimmed down thru this thread, read many of the posts. I come away with the same impression I always do when I read attacks on Rush: most of his attackers concentrate on the personal (he's fat, was addicted to painkillers, whatever), or his style. Few have much experience with the actual show; fewer attack his positions with any degree of specificity; fewer still attack his overall philosophy. Plus ca change...


Of course you would prefer not to point out the rational critisms and focus on the name calling.Of course.....

Being that Rush is calling good folks all kinds of horrible names daily ,kinda makes your point moot though.

And this thread is about Steele`s name calling,not the public`s.





KaineD -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/8/2009 12:34:02 PM)

Saying that people shoudln't use personal insults on Rush Limbaugh is rather ridiculous.  The man lives his whole life on personal insults.




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