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Lets bring home our Military from Korea and Germany over 200, 000 troops

What do you suppose the long-term repercussions of that would be?

Well, for one, it would be a hit to the economy of those countries.  Let's face it.  Soldiers spend money in the places they are deployed.  Same bucks could be spent here, or there could be fewer in the military to help our national budget.

There's also that small thing about having fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters home with their families. 

I'm going to assume your reply was serious.
May I rephrase the question?
If we pulled our troops from South Korea and Germany, what do think the long-term consequences, aside from the lpss of American capital, to South Korea, Asia, Germany, and Europe? Specifically, would said removal make the aforementioned areas safer or less safe, and by what degree? Even more specifically, how many tens or hundreds of thousands of  Asians would die as a result of said pullout?

My reply was absolutely serious.

Now, let's ask you a question.  Since you mention how many Asian lives might be lost.  (Happens to be BS, btw.)

What are the lives of the members  of your family worth to you?  One?  Ten?  A hundred?  Thousands?

I know how many American families would be reunited.  I know how many American lives would be saved.  All of them.

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just edited my post to say s Korea...some nitpicker would be screaming i don’t know north from south ;)

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ORIGINAL: CraZYWiLLiE
Lets bring home our Military from Korea and Germany over 200, 000 troops

What do you suppose the long-term repercussions of that would be?

Well, for one, it would be a hit to the economy of those countries.  Let's face it.  Soldiers spend money in the places they are deployed.  Same bucks could be spent here, or there could be fewer in the military to help our national budget.

There's also that small thing about having fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters home with their families. 

I'm going to assume your reply was serious.
May I rephrase the question?
If we pulled our troops from South Korea and Germany, what do think the long-term consequences, aside from the lpss of American capital, to South Korea, Asia, Germany, and Europe? Specifically, would said removal make the aforementioned areas safer or less safe, and by what degree? Even more specifically, how many tens or hundreds of thousands of  Asians would die as a result of said pullout?

My reply was absolutely serious.

Now, let's ask you a question.  Since you mention how many Asian lives might be lost.  (Happens to be BS, btw.)

What are the lives of the members  of your family worth to you?  One?  Ten?  A hundred?  Thousands?

I know how many American families would be reunited.  I know how many American lives would be saved.  All of them.

 
Had I been forced to bet I of course would have bet you would have refused- or been unable- to answer the q.
My family has fought in every war this country has fought since my ancestor Gen Gates commanded the middle colonies under another ancestor named Washington. Should she decide to serve my only grandchild- so far- could be a fourth generation paratrooper. We're familiar with  the cost of freedom.

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I had no idea that a decedent of Washington was among us...wow.

Back to reality...

OUR freedom is not what is at stake with our abroad missions and deployments. Other people in other countries who are responsible for their own freedom...those people are who are stake. And frankly, we fought for our freedom, they need grab their balls and fight for theirs. I'm tired of American lives being lost in countries where not one of those people will remember the person that just died for them. OUR brothers and sisters and daughters and sons and husbands and fathers and mothers and wives deserve better.

We are not thanked for the efforts that we take to help other countries and quite often we take political heat for it. fuck it...I'm tired of of seeing American hands being held out to help people and American dollars being spent elsewhere. Bring them home. All of them. Now.

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We are not thanked for the efforts that we take to help other countries and quite often we take political heat for it. fuck it...I'm tired of of seeing American hands being held out to help people and American dollars being spent elsewhere. Bring them home. All of them. Now.

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Lets bring home our Military from Korea and Germany over 200, 000 troops

What do you suppose the long-term repercussions of that would be?

Well, for one, it would be a hit to the economy of those countries.  Let's face it.  Soldiers spend money in the places they are deployed.  Same bucks could be spent here, or there could be fewer in the military to help our national budget.

There's also that small thing about having fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters home with their families. 

I'm going to assume your reply was serious.
May I rephrase the question?
If we pulled our troops from South Korea and Germany, what do think the long-term consequences, aside from the lpss of American capital, to South Korea, Asia, Germany, and Europe? Specifically, would said removal make the aforementioned areas safer or less safe, and by what degree? Even more specifically, how many tens or hundreds of thousands of  Asians would die as a result of said pullout?

My reply was absolutely serious.

Now, let's ask you a question.  Since you mention how many Asian lives might be lost.  (Happens to be BS, btw.)

What are the lives of the members  of your family worth to you?  One?  Ten?  A hundred?  Thousands?

I know how many American families would be reunited.  I know how many American lives would be saved.  All of them.

 
Had I been forced to bet I of course would have bet you would have refused- or been unable- to answer the q.
My family has fought in every war this country has fought since my ancestor Gen Gates commanded the middle colonies under another ancestor named Washington. Should she decide to serve my only grandchild- so far- could be a fourth generation paratrooper. We're familiar with  the cost of freedom.

Then you're familiar with how high a price that is to pay.

It's not that I don't have My own projections of the possible repercussions of pulling out of South Korea.  I do.  It's just that the fact of the matter is that I honestly don't care as much about what happens in that country as I care about what happens in this one.  It sounds terribly callous and you probably think it's the wrong one, but it's the right answer for Me.

I'm just a simple military wife, who now has her husband serving in the same place that her father did decades ago.  I live in a military town where I've seen too damn many military funerals.  I refuse to let anyone think that it's easy. 

BTW, I'm going to thank you for your service.  It's just a shame that you can't seem to understand Mine.

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We can do that, but be careful what you ask for.  Cutting back the military means downsizing troop strength.  All those ex-military personal are then faced with finding jobs. 

Now that being said, whether you like it or not, we have reasons for maintaining overseas military installations besides helping out foreign people.  Our economy is tied to the rest of the world.  Our strength abroad is an intricate part of protecting our economic and political interests around the globe. 

The military is not a club for people to join for a paycheck and benefits.  It's a job, and it's voluntary.  I feel for families that have members overseas, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's voluntary. 

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LP, it's not so much that I don't undertsand your service as much as I was ignorant of it- although I freely admit I have never been a military wife or daughter Thank you for service, and fot that of your family.

It has been national policy, not often directly stated but national policy nonetheless, that we would never let the world strategic situation deteriorate to a point analogous to, say, 1939. That has been an expensive policy. Has it been less expensive than letting the world go to hell in a nuclear handbasket?  No way to know for sure.

The Sheriff's Department is expensive too.....

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LP, it's not so much that I don't undertsand your service as much as I was ignorant of it- although I freely admit I have never been a military wife or daughter Thank you for service, and fot that of your family.

It has been national policy, not often directly stated but national policy nonetheless, that we would never let the world strategic situation deteriorate to a point analogous to, say, 1939. That has been an expensive policy. Has it been less expensive than letting the world go to hell in a nuclear handbasket?  No way to know for sure.

The Sheriff's Department is expensive too.....

Last I checked the Soviet Union fell in '91 and the Cold War was over then. And Iran has no intention of changing their own nuclear policy. And frankly, they shouldn't change it. Currently there's enough nuclear explosives ready to launch that the entire human population would not survive. I wouldn't worry about 1 or 2 more.

And yeah the Sheriff's Department is expensive and funny enough, their salaries aren't paid for by the next county over...they're paid for by the country they operate in. Again...world wide sheriff's department is not our job. And frankly, taking it on is killing the American economy...let's not get into our loss of life around it.

Finally, it's a shitty disposition to treat someone poorly because you assume they know nothing about what it is be part of the military or a military family and then be Mr.Nice Guy afterward. A military family, as you should know, doesn't just extend to the direct family of a serviceman or woman. It extends to their friends who worry and are just as active in supporting them as their family.

Now pardon me while I go finish a quilt for a soldier returning to Afghanistan in August.

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The reality is this...you bring them to enforce our borders and OUR primary military needs and troop strength doesn't diminish. Our "interests" around the globe are actually minimal at this rate. Part of what has driven us into our current economic mess is spending (something like) 8 million dollars a day on another country. And a great deal of that is spent through our military resources who could be giving our own country that kind of boost.

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Yeah it's voluntary. It's a voluntary position that is practically handed to people from communities that enduring poverty. This is often the best job any of them could ever hope for and have been fed that their entire lives. Now... NOW their countrymen (civilians) and their leadership throw their lives away because their lives are expendable. That voluntary is taken with the understanding that their lives are supposed to be cared about and the value of their lives will be considered before taking military action. Repeated occupation of countries that will do just fine without us and sacrificing their lives is not taking into consideration their lives and their value.

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And besides when the fuck did it become our military's job to take care of economic and political interests? I thought it was their job to take our physical and strategic safety and guarantee tomorrow for Americans. I thought it was their job to stand on a wall at night so that a civilian didn't have to. I did not think it was their job to go around kissing babies and rebuilding other people's countries because they were dumb enough to harbor  terrorists or pick fights with their neighbors. 

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Let me ask you if i took my"time machine" and put George Bush back before  WW II do you think he would have a problem with what Roosevelt and Hoover did???? ;)
since you were unable or unwilling to read it the first time let me highlight some key words for you ;)
after reading it do you still think Roosevelt would have a problem with GITMO????
Oh and enjoy the link for far more details about what occured during Roosevelt.


http://www.foitimes.com/internment/Books.htm

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Even more specifically, how many tens or hundreds of thousands of  Asians would die as a result of said pullout?

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Obama in a year will spend more then 7 years of bushs two wars ;)

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How more likely do you get than a boat sitting outside of Cuba aiming it's weapons at us and daring us to make "one wrong move"?

And this...
"Had I been forced to bet I of course would have bet you would have refused- or been unable- to answer the q."
...is a shitty disposition.

boi

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Even more specifically, how many tens or hundreds of thousands of  Asians would die as a result of said pullout?

That is not our responsibility.

Our only concern over when and where we place our troops should be our own national security.