truckinslave
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ORIGINAL: DedicatedDom40 I dont think Iraq was ever about oil. While Afghanistan was a legit secular war prosecuted by the US government against terrirosts, Iraq was more of a religious war prosecuted by politicians elected by the extreme Christian element against muslims. It was religious empire building, that is until those puppets got voted out. I will say that the erroneous premise of oil revenues paying for reconstruction was more of a 'grand enabler'. As for Newt, I dont have many negative feelings, except to say he is a bit tarnished by his previous marriage to K Street. You do lose me on the social conservative issues of abortion, gay marriage, stem cells, and the like. None of this nonsense would have ever made it into the agenda of a Goldwater or a Taft, nor should it have ever entered into the agenda of ANY republican. I dont have a problem with spiritual politicans, but I flatly reject any politician who runs on spiritual issues. If they are so obsessed with spiritual issues, then they need to become a priest and not a politican. As for patriotism and support of the military, the country should inspire it based on the actions of its leaders, rather than demand compliance to the ideal from those who disagree. If the right is making patriotism a huge issue at every turn, then its only because our actions failed to legitimately inspire it. You cant legislate patriotism any more than you can legislate morals. The republicans need to wake up, and stop wasting that energy. I have no real desire to speculate on Goldwater or Taft, but every Republican President since ROE has been strongly anti-abortion. I think there were several reasons for Iraq- defiance, worldwide intelligence of WMD, Pres Hussein (theirs, not ours) tried to kill GHWB- but I see no evidence that religious beliefs played a part. In fact I rather see the opposite. No true believer (except, I suppose, a Buddhist) believes that a love of freedom trumps religious conviction. Religious beliefs in fact constrain personal freedom. Yet GWB fails to see that Islam and Western-style freedoms are completely incompatible. Finally, all law (including, say, those against insider trading, fraud, incest, and murder) enforces morality.
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