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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Yes that would truly be horrible.

Imagine the chaos if we ever had a society that took care of each other.

We do have a society where people take care of each other.  Family and friends help each other out all the time.  Imagine if we had a society where only the government decided who got help? 

You can pat yourself for being a good person because you demand that the government act as our moral enforcers (that is, your idea of morality) but it reamins so much theoretical bullshit.  I perfer to help those around me and I'll let the rest of the world worry about itself.  If everybody did that, we wouldn't even need the idea that government has to be our nanny.

Edited to add: and don't forget the numerous charities that help people who are complete strangers.  After Katrina hit, thousands of people headed south to help while millions more donated supplies and money.  Meanwhile, the government agency taked to help - FEMA - spent most of it's time standing around with it's thumbs up it ass.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

• McCain refuses to commit his support for Palin in 2012


WASHINGTON (AFP) – Republican Senator John McCain gave lukewarm support Sunday to a bid for the presidency by Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, his former running mate in the 2008 race for the White House he lost to President Barack Obama.

In an interview with NBC, the Arizona lawmaker said he would "like to see her compete," when asked if he would approve of Palin running for president at some future date.

Pressed further on his likely support of the Alaska governor were she to compete for the White House, McCain was more circumspect.

"Oh, I'd have to see who the candidates are and what the situation is at the time," he said, adding in the same breath his "respect, admiration and love for Sarah and her family."

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

No, but seriously now... nobody actually believes she could ever run, right? It's impossible, in a rational world. Right? A thing of fantasy for desperate conservative men who can't come to Coulter anymore. Yes?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Please,this train wreck from Alaska could not hold up her end as second banana on a national ticket,where does the idea come from that she is a legitimate candidate for a legitimate(R?) party?
She's a joke...the idea of her running is a really bad joke.

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I'm not talking about a particular administration in power but government in general.

And if defense is a legitimate function of government then why isn't health care?

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Oh hell kittin, that middle America crowd, they love her....I say let her run. Obama probably sent flowers the next day. Silly Sarah.  You betcha.

Did you ever see that HBO documentary "Right America, Feeling Wronged".? It is on this month, catch it if you can, it was mindblowing. The Palin-ites are alive and well,  thriving in the south and whatever they keep calling "Gods' country."  The commentary from the boys at the Nascar rally right before the election was illuminating to say that least. By illuminating I mean in a cross burning kind of way. They must still be so pissed.   Hey bubba, your president is black! Ha ha ha ha ha ..sorry got carried away~

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

The Republican party needs a new direction, and Palin "Young Earth Theory" just ain't cuttin the cheese.

PS: edited to add: y'all ain't nuffin but a bunch of God hatin commie luvin pinko ass libs.

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ORIGINAL: CruelNUnsual

Romney will be the candidate in 12, as he should have been in 08. Even as the Veep candidate we wouldnt be facing 10 trillion in debt to destroy capitalism and the health care system.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Health Care system? We have a health care system? Wow. Here's my system, Send check for 687.00 a month to Anthem, with a 10k deduct. For 2 adults, no kids, and no pre-existing. What is this system of which you speak that is being destroyed? If it is the one where my horrific monthly cost is almost a mortgage payment, and we might actually get a better one, destroy away.

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Aren't we the government?

And as such, shouldn't we help each other as families and friends do?

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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I'm not talking about a particular administration in power but government in general.

And if defense is a legitimate function of government then why isn't health care?

In the case of the United States government it’s because the Constitution says defense is one the governments purposes, it says no such thing about health care (and no, “promote the general welfare" doesn’t count).  In the case of Government in general, it is because it is impossible for government to ensure the well being of every individual (which is why the Founding Father, in their wisdom, wrote Promote the General Welfare and not ensure every individual's welfare) and if it tries it only ends up favoring some individuals at the expense of others.  Government, by it’s very nature, is corrupt, power hungry, and inefficient.  Perhaps you want such an entity deciding what (if any) healthcare you receive.  I don’t.  I prefer to have options and that will only come about in a free market.    

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Thanks, I already have that, it's called Anthem Blue Cross/Blueshield.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Thanks, I already have that, it's called Anthem Blue Cross/Blueshield.

If you don't like them then find a different insurance company.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Thanks, I already have that, it's called Anthem Blue Cross/Blueshield.

If you don't like them then find a different insurance company.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

http://www.healthinsurancesort.com/blog/2009/03/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-of-maine-requests-health-insurance-rate-increase/


and another, from a right wing anti obama guy.

http://mainebusiness.mainetoday.com/blogentry.html?id=11894

Anything else? Besides discussing my ovaries I mean?

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Yes, that's the answer.

Because they all aren't the same?

You want to argue government health care would be a monolithic bureaucracy but what do we have now if not that?

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Don't be surprised if she surprises you again.

After all, none of you really expected Bush to get elected ... twice.

Firm

Somehow I can't get too enthusiatic about the female version of Bush in the White House.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

No chance of that happening: Palin is thick as two short planks. She sank it for the Reps this election: she would do it again, if she were nominated. Even the Republicans aren't that stupid that they'd nominate her again - especially not for an even higher office. She's toast. She'll end up on a chat show, or writing books, or both. So, no, it's not the last we've seen of her  .

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Ill take Jenna anyday over Chelsea ;)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Don't be surprised if she surprises you again.

After all, none of you really expected Bush to get elected ... twice.

Firm

Somehow I can't get too enthusiatic about the female version of Bush in the White House.