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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 12:48:25 PM

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No, I've come out as an escort on this site (at least I thought I had?)

Well, it just goes to show how closely I follow your story. The above explains much in my view.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 12:49:01 PM

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Seriously, is it the argument of the other side that y'all in your 20s know everything already?

Why do you transform "I know and have more experience in a lot of things than many older people" into "I know everything and have nothing new to learn"???

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LuckyAlbatross is constantly claiming that there is nothing special about us in the BDSM world - that the stats are the same for us as any other community across the board. So that means she must claim the same unexceptional status of everyone else in her precise cicumstances doesn't it? Including her age bracket?

Generalizations only work for general contexts.

I am much better than average at some things. I am about average at some things. And I am well below average at some things (namely geography). On average, I'm an average person.

On specifics, I might be far better, the same, or worse than average.

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RE: Irritated by stereotypes...then caught myself doing... - 1/27/2006 12:50:29 PM

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arsehat?
wankers?

Arsehat = Ass Hat
Wankers = Jerk-offs

That's basically English slang there. Not a foreign language, FWIW.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 12:52:21 PM

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Thank you MistressofGA...spot on!! Exactly right. Sorry about the vitriol folks, but I hadda get it outta my system somewhere and here seemed a good place. The flames in response were kinda interesting. But one person caught the meaning behind it ...so I guess I am happy. Mischeif managed, pot stirred.

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BTW: Arsehat (noun): a person whose arse is where his hat should be. A person suffering from cranio-rectal inversion.

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RE: Irritated by stereotypes...then caught myself doing... - 1/27/2006 12:53:21 PM

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guess i wouldn't get along in England...they wouldn't like my foul language...LOL

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 12:58:20 PM

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Generalizations only work for general contexts.

Obviously. But you 20+ set members are all precious exceptions to the average, eh? I know you said you weren't in one of your last posts, but you are often claiming the exact opposite of that in many ways elsewhere.

Tell me: What precisely does sex with men who pay you for sex teach you about other kinds of men? I ask because a very close friend of mine is also a sex worker, but I hardly think that qualifies her as an expert on sex or intimacy or many other things. It's a very specific, idiosyncratic arena of activity is my point.

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RE: Irritated by stereotypes...then caught myself doing... - 1/27/2006 1:00:52 PM

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guess i wouldn't get along in England...they wouldn't like my foul language...LOL

actually michael our foul langauge in England/Europe is nothing--for example---fuck is a deep kiss in France---but use the words "bloody" or "bloody hell" and then you are in trouble--

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 1:02:02 PM

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Wow. Did you just make the leap to calling someone a prostitute? Or am I missing something?

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 1:04:55 PM

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I know you said you weren't in one of your last posts, but you are often claiming the exact opposite of that in many ways elsewhere.

What I generally claim is that one's age is not necessarily an indicator of one's experience.

And I almost exclusively ONLY talk of myself as having more or less experience and understanding, as compared to the general population.

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Tell me: What precisely does sex with men who pay you for sex teach you about other kinds of men?

You're assuming that only one kind of man does so? One of the fallacies people have about escorting is that only men who can't get sex without money will pay for it. In fact quite the opposite. Men who have happy wives, happy girlfriends, men who are successful, talented, fairly good income, normal and from all backgrounds and stages will enjoy escorts.

What I learn from that is by having a larger number of sexual experiences than most people with a larger cross section than most people. And in my experience, being older and number of years of sexual experience is no clear translation on sexual attitude or ability.

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I ask because a very close friend of mine is also a sex worker, but I hardly think that qualifies her as an expert on sex or intimacy or many other things. It's a very specific, idiosyncratic arena of activity is my point.

I think you keep trying to take what I say and project it into something very different than what it is I am being very specific in. If you're trying to get clarity I could understand. But the tone of your posts often seem more like you are attempting to insult my intelligence, choices and belittle my perspectives- you completely ignored everything in my prior post except the part where I confirmed to you that I am an escort.

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RE: Irritated by stereotypes...then caught myself doing... - 1/27/2006 1:05:47 PM

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then i guess i could get away with alot of cussing there, huh? LOL

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 1:11:14 PM

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I don't even claim that some of you couldn't be wise beyond your years - I merely claim that such a thing would be uncommon.

If you took every member of COLLARME, and had them make a list of every twenty-something that they known ... when you compiled that list, it would not be representative of even .01% of the twenty-something, just in my own home state. You are of course entitled to your opinion ... but it is still just another unsupportable opinion. Your sample group is not inclusive enough to be considered "uncommon."

LA shares her thoughts very openly and candidly. She is quick with a handy link, and I at least place great value on her contribution to this website. If you choose to see that as the arrogance of youth, that is your right.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 1:52:54 PM

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I am a 40+ fat old veteran with all the scars tattoos and marks of hard living

If "fat" means obese and "hard living" means over-boozed, then it Sounds like you're shit out of luck.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 2:25:18 PM

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Having fucked quite a number of over 40 yo men and women, I'd have to say it's perfectly possible to fuck a lot for a lot of years and learn nothing at all.

Impossible to argue with this kind of logic!

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 2:34:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
The fact is that I'm more experienced in a lot of things, especially bdsm and sex related, than most of the novices flooding this site everyday.

Hmmm, well then I apologize.

It just seems that you daily post things that suggest you haven't a clue about BDSM matters or sex beyond mowing your owner's lawn, providing him with chauffeur services, or tending his house for him in his absence. Allowing yourself to be used by your owner's buddies who like to fly by and "hit it" doesn't qualify you for much of anything in my view. Most of the people I know that provide such services get paid for them - but you're too smart for that, huh?

I guess I just don't get the sexual aspect of dumping out the grass trap. Can you explain that bit for us?

You must be confusing LA with someone else.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 2:42:33 PM

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LuckyAlbatross is constantly claiming that there is nothing special about us in the BDSM world

There isn't anything special about "us" in the BDSM world. We are just the same as everyone else in every other sort of world. That whole thought process-that we must be so special...reminds me of how world religions separate each other out. Christians believe that they were chosen by god to be saved at the end of time. Jews believe that they are god's chosen people. Who is right? Are they both wrong?

Just because you like your sex rough or you enjoy distinct power play to get you off, it doesn't make you special. You aren't on a higher plane of existence because you like it kinky. Whether you are 55, 22, or 99, you're no more guided or spiritually pure or enlightened than joe schmo who likes it with his socks on and the lights out.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 2:45:36 PM

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i think i need a foreign language slang dictionary...

arsehat?
wankers?

Verry funny michael!

Here are three of my favorites

Assbag
Assmunch
Assbowl

You can look tham up - but as far as i know they are all "homemade."

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 3:11:26 PM

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Whether you are 55, 22, or 99, you're no more guided or spiritually pure or enlightened than joe schmo who likes it with his socks on and the lights out.

Well, being spiritually pure or enlightened is another subject altogether...but I wouldn't be one to disparage the Apollonian Creed as it has helped many a person gain deeper personal wisdom for hundreds and hundreds of years. Our take on this issue might differ enormously.

My only claim is that age usually can be taken as a marker for experience and the wisdom that comes from experience. That's all I am saying, no guarantees - it's a generalization.

You don't live it, you don't get it.

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 3:21:03 PM

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grabbing bottle of 1800.... a few limes.... salt.... couple shot glasses

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 3:27:27 PM

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veronica? martinis please--

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RE: Irritated by unrealistic criteriae - 1/27/2006 3:44:24 PM

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My only claim is that age usually can be taken as a marker for experience and the wisdom that comes from experience. That's all I am saying, no guarantees - it's a generalization.

mmmmmmm I would say age is the worst marker for to identify experience or wisdom... but it is easest for people to fall into that trap type thinking!

Maybe people like it cause it's a lazy person's way of making unsupportable claims/opinions to establish markers that require no real effort on their part to make any type of informed opinion/judgement. Seems to me, that to identify the experience and wisdom of another takes alittle effort in observering and interacting with another to make individual value judgements of any creditibility.

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