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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 11:40:07 AM   
Chulain


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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC
Let's not for get the double standard of no one ( or few) thinking automatically that two women together is 'gay' vs. 'hot'.

Two women together is gay and hot.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 12:38:22 PM   
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ehhh two girls going at it.... gay... 2 guys taking turns up the ass... still gay.  2 bitches with da stud man  HOTTT!!!

BadOne


Hello sexy SailingBum,

I've done it with a hot sexy chick, but am still NOT GAY ! ya know,
did you ever hear of the term Bi??

Because I'm very bisexual

When guys take it up the ass, it doesn't mean they are gay at all,
I fuck all My submissive men, and no one was gay,
they can be bisexual too really !


Gay is loving the same gender, and want to b involved with only them!!

Alright?

Case closed.


I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`


My sweet T You know I LUST you. The thought of you and I plus a 3rd smoking HOT bitch sends me to the BRINK. By all means send photos.

Lustfully Yours BadOne


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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 2:20:02 PM   
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I on some level, believe that Most so called masters are bloated, bald, macho tools who could not get laid unless there were others out there with low self esteem willing to submit.


Says the man with no pictures.



Your experience with masters /= mine

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 2:36:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chulain

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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC
Let's not for get the double standard of no one ( or few) thinking automatically that two women together is 'gay' vs. 'hot'.

Two women together is gay and hot.



Or two women together could be bi or straight and trying to piss someone off (long story).

But yes, usually hot.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 2:59:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mycandor
I on some level, believe that Most so called masters are bloated, bald, macho tools who could not get laid unless there were others out there with low self esteem willing to submit.


You say that like it's a negative thing.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 3:00:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Or two women together could be bi or straight and trying to piss someone off (long story).

Don't go fucking around with my fantasies.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 8:47:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

In psychology, and particularly in psychoanalysis (pun not meant), it's frequently suggested that a  man's desire for anal sex is a homoerotic impulse. Much to the annoyance of straigher than straight guys who like to think of themselves as the pinnacle of heterosexuality  .
It might also be suggested that this suggestion is homophobic, i.e., it's a tactic to deflect the suspicion that you might be gay if you were to defend it, homophobia being clinically defined as the fear of ones own latent homosexuality, the best defense being a good offense.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 8:58:15 PM   
xssve


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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

Why would performing anal sex determine a persons sexuality?
'Cause only guys have assholes, women perform immaculate evacuation and fart fairy dust.



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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:00:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RainydayNE

if a guy who wants to have anal sex with a female should be suspected of being gay, what about the female who wants him to perform anal sex on her? =p if attraction to anal sex is some magical determiner of something, then is something wrong with HER too? =p
this is ... oy...

labelling is silly.
To be gay is to act like a woman, ergo, all women are gay.

Think about it: surely you've worn culottes, that's so gay.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:06:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlexandraLynch

I solve the issue by insisting that my male subs be either straight but not narrow or already bisexual. Cause I like, among other things, two cocks in bed with me on occasion, and I've learned in the vanilla world that straight and narrow men get freaked out by OMG there's another stiffie in the bed!!! and can't perform.

I don't care so much about the girls.


Now we're getting somewhere, double vag must be gay too.

At this point, I think you have to return to the archaic definition of "gay", i.e., "carefree and uninhibited", otherwise, only madness and stupidity can ensue.

Technically, however, I think that not even having same sex intercourse make you gay, anyone is capable of it, homosexuals desire the same sex to the exclusion of the opposite, regardless of any act either performs with the opposite sex - being fretful and inhibited doesn't make you any more heterosexual, it just makes you a drag in the sack.



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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:07:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

After seeing http://www.collarchat.com/m_555101/tm.htm and the subject coming up a few times in other threads, it made me wonder. Why does nobody accuse men who want to *give* anal sex to their female partner of being gay? After all, about as many gay guys like giving anal as getting it. If a guy wanted to give anal sex to another guy, it would still be a gay or bisexual or homoerotic activity. Of course, in my opinion, wanting to do *anything* with a member of the opposite gender isn't gay or lesbian.


I think in some cases the guy who is all about anal is three days in jail from being gay.

For me it's amusement park or sewer.... easy choice.


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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:12:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mycandor

Can anything really be so black and white any more? Sexuality is, or should be, about exploration. If it feels good...do it. It does not define a person. why should one be pigeonholed into one category or another.

A friend in the lifestyle once told me that all girls are a little bi. Of course she also says that men can't be bi..and she does not believe in being a switch either...but I digress.

I just find it amusing that being in this lifestyle, there is even a debate? Is it not hypocritical to be debating this issue when this lifestyle is all about pushing the limits of sexuality and experimentation? I on some level, believe that Most so called masters are bloated, bald, macho tools who could not get laid unless there were others out there with low self esteem willing to submit. But again I digress.
Me too, especially if they're getting more than I am, fuckers.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:30:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

After seeing http://www.collarchat.com/m_555101/tm.htm and the subject coming up a few times in other threads, it made me wonder. Why does nobody accuse men who want to *give* anal sex to their female partner of being gay? After all, about as many gay guys like giving anal as getting it. If a guy wanted to give anal sex to another guy, it would still be a gay or bisexual or homoerotic activity. Of course, in my opinion, wanting to do *anything* with a member of the opposite gender isn't gay or lesbian.


I think in some cases the guy who is all about anal is three days in jail from being gay.

For me it's amusement park or sewer.... easy choice.

Ah, there ya go, the the anus is symbolic of corruption, what goes in clean comes out "dirty".

There was a very heated debate about this that raged throughout the Third and Fourth centuries, whether Jesus was of man or of god - if the latter, then he would be incorruptible, and he cannot have shat, since that would be evidence of earthly corruption - the Trinitarians won the debate - Jesus may or may not have had an asshole, I don't believe they specified, but many Theists are convinced to this day that their shit doesn't stink.

The moral of the story is: the shit is mostly in your head.

Biologically, it's largely about stimulation of the vagus nerve, critical in regulating hormonal balance, particularly for women, and they get more direct stimulation through anal, to the point some prefer it over vaginal - but it's also why taking a big shit feels so good, and being anal retentive is considered to be more of a character defect than an asset - you become the thing you hate maybe, some sort of divine justice at work there anyway.

Submission probably has something to do with it as well, from a behavioral standpoint, but again, dominance and submission are mostly abstracted in human culture, so it basically means what ever you want it to mean, assuming it's not rape.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:35:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mycandor

It does not define a person. why should one be pigeonholed into one category or another.

I on some level, believe that Most so called masters are bloated, bald, macho tools who could not get laid unless there were others out there with low self esteem willing to submit. But again I digress.


Crap! I hate it when I get pigeonholed.


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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:37:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xssve

Ah, there ya go, the the anus is symbolic of corruption, what goes in clean comes out "dirty".

There was a very heated debate about this that raged throughout the Third and Fourth centuries, whether Jesus was of man or of god - if the latter, then he would be incorruptible, and he cannot have shat, since that would be evidence of earthly corruption - the Trinitarians won the debate - Jesus may or may not have had an asshole, I don't believe they specified, but many Theists are convinced to this day that their shit doesn't stink.

The moral of the story is: the shit is mostly in your head.

Biologically, it's largely about stimulation of the vagus nerve, critical in regulating hormonal balance, particularly for women, and they get more direct stimulation through anal, to the point some prefer it over vaginal - but it's also why taking a big shit feels so good, and being anal retentive is considered to be more of a character defect than an asset - you become the thing you hate maybe, some sort of divine justice at work there anyway.

Submission probably has something to do with it as well, from a behavioral standpoint, but again, dominance and submission are mostly abstracted in human culture, so it basically means what ever you want it to mean, assuming it's not rape.



Nope, jus not Papa's bag.


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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:43:52 PM   
xssve


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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

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ORIGINAL: xssve

Ah, there ya go, the the anus is symbolic of corruption, what goes in clean comes out "dirty".

There was a very heated debate about this that raged throughout the Third and Fourth centuries, whether Jesus was of man or of god - if the latter, then he would be incorruptible, and he cannot have shat, since that would be evidence of earthly corruption - the Trinitarians won the debate - Jesus may or may not have had an asshole, I don't believe they specified, but many Theists are convinced to this day that their shit doesn't stink.

The moral of the story is: the shit is mostly in your head.

Biologically, it's largely about stimulation of the vagus nerve, critical in regulating hormonal balance, particularly for women, and they get more direct stimulation through anal, to the point some prefer it over vaginal - but it's also why taking a big shit feels so good, and being anal retentive is considered to be more of a character defect than an asset - you become the thing you hate maybe, some sort of divine justice at work there anyway.

Submission probably has something to do with it as well, from a behavioral standpoint, but again, dominance and submission are mostly abstracted in human culture, so it basically means what ever you want it to mean, assuming it's not rape.



Nope, jus not Papa's bag.

It was fuckin' women got me started on it.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/28/2011 9:49:25 PM   
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At any rate, it's not about preferences here, whatever spin's your propeller, I love to pound that pussy, beat it like a piece of fucking veal - but it's whether anal with a woman make you gay or not.

But of course, the same thing was once thought about oral sodomy, it was once thought unnatural, now most men think of it as a god given right.

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/29/2011 4:32:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xssve
But of course, the same thing was once thought about oral sodomy, it was once thought unnatural, now most men think of it as a god given right.


You mean it's not? When did that happen? Did I miss a vote?

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/30/2011 6:10:33 AM   
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'...accusations of being gay'.

Since when was being gay a crime or something bad, something that one could be accused of?

Since when was being gay all about anal sex?

:-)

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RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay - 1/30/2011 6:19:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SourandSweet

'...accusations of being gay'.

Since when was being gay a crime or something bad, something that one could be accused of?


:-)



daily ( even the USA included) you read about examples that "gay" is a bad thing.

the US military
killing is Africa because..i think it was...witchery
gays beeing beaten up in Amsterdam...etc etc

stupid...but it is still not accepted as much as we want it to be..

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