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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:35:11 PM   
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     Oh c'mon, Sanity.  Let's call it what it was.  The Bush II administration squandered all that good will to pursue a pre-existing agenda against Saddam Hussein, and the Dems were so ham-handed and out of touch in their opposition that monkeyboy and co*. got away with it. 

    And then we were, and are, stuck in the mess we made.


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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:43:21 PM   
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I totally disagree, Rich. The Democrats were all on board. Well, except Kucinich...

Clinton had bomb bomb bombed Iraq and lectured us for years on all the evils of Saddam Hussein.

The only reason the Dems turned on Bush (and worked overtime to turn honest people like yourself against him) was pure partisan politics.

Nothing else. Throw enough mud, some will stick - and there was so much thrown so fast (purely for political gain) that trying to deny it and argue otherwise is just a crock.


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    Oh c'mon, Sanity.  Let's call it what it was.  The Bush II administration squandered all that good will to pursue a pre-existing agenda against Saddam Hussein, and the Dems were so ham-handed and out of touch in their opposition that monkeyboy and co*. got away with it. 

   And then we were, and are, stuck in the mess we made.


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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:50:35 PM   
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They didn't "squander good will" in any way, what happened was the far left began plotting to undermine the administration's every move as soon as the positive poll numbers came out following the 9/11 attacks. There may have been a very brief moment when most of the left was behind them, but that quickly gave way to petty resentment over their popularity, and the vicious attacks over every petty thing imaginable began in earnest.

Are you referring to vicious,petty attacks over such things as pizza parties and the like.Glass houses sanity,glass houses.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:53:09 PM   
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They didn't "squander good will" in any way, what happened was the far left began plotting to undermine the administration's every move as soon as the positive poll numbers came out following the 9/11 attacks. There may have been a very brief moment when most of the left was behind them, but that quickly gave way to petty resentment over their popularity, and the vicious attacks over every petty thing imaginable began in earnest.



Rather than list pages and pages of bush fuck-ups and disasters,tell us one thing he didn`t fuck up(that he had a say in)?





Ohhh this whiny player-hate`n discomfiture is like a cold drink on a hot day.


Another thing, we won`t get out of President Obama is the leaking of the ID of an under-cover NOC CIA agent.Like bush did.

What a disaster bush was.Oh right,the libs plotted that........<snickers>

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:53:44 PM   
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    Oh c'mon, Sanity.  Let's call it what it was.  The Bush II administration squandered all that good will to pursue a pre-existing agenda against Saddam Hussein, and the Dems were so ham-handed and out of touch in their opposition that monkeyboy and co*. got away with it. 

   And then we were, and are, stuck in the mess we made.


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You know Rich I'm starting to think your more towards the middle than I had previously thought.And that is a good thing,a very good thing.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:56:05 PM   
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It's "glass houses" as you say for Liberal Democrats to cry and whine about a little bit of criticism of Obama after the way they've been acting for the last eight years mike.

Don't you think?


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4uAre you referring to vicious,petty attacks over such things as pizza parties and the like.Glass houses sanity,glass houses.


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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 8:58:42 PM   
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so bitter.....

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:00:58 PM   
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Ok children, enough.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:05:44 PM   
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Rather than list pages and pages of bush fuck-ups and disasters,tell us one thing he didn`t fuck up(that he had a say in)?




       Wouldn't that be all the policies Obama has continued, O59? 

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:07:42 PM   
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One thing`s for sure.

We won`t see the President make an aircraft carrier steam in circles(after a long deployment at sea) just to stage a photo op of him landing in a fighter jet,pose in a flight suit(w/ cod piece) and declare "mission accomplished",..... all pompous and blow-hardy.

No drama Obama!


Exactly.  Everyone's talking about the rescue itself, which was entirely due to the SEALs.  Obama's true mark was in the way he kept getting briefed and keeping everything under quiet control.  No "Bring it on" stupidity.


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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:23:42 PM   
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No drama Obama......nice.


He won`t exploit this for personal political gain either.How refreshing.

As I recall,Clinton didn`t strut around or crow or pat himself on the back.He often shared any credit.Maybe that kind of discrete valor should become a presidential tradition.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:27:34 PM   
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Rather than list pages and pages of bush fuck-ups and disasters,tell us one thing he didn`t fuck up(that he had a say in)?




      Wouldn't that be all the policies Obama has continued, O59? 


Which are?

I keep hearing about all this awful bush policies that President Obama is keeping.

What are they again?

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 9:28:40 PM   
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Oh I don't know Owner Clinton had some peacock in him.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 10:29:47 PM   
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eh eheh heh....he said cock.....

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Yeah egh egh...and pea.......





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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 10:38:27 PM   
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Which are?



      I'm sure Sanity could provide you with some links, O59. 

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 10:53:38 PM   
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Like peas in a pod or birds of a feather......will we ever get a straight answer from you two?  Probably never.......

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 11:14:11 PM   
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      I needed that chuckle.  G'night, O59.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/13/2009 11:21:22 PM   
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nite Rich.

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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/14/2009 3:28:15 AM   
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Heh...  I'm starting to think your more towards the middle than I had you pegged...

And yes he did.


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Oh I don't know Owner Clinton had some peacock in him.


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RE: Obama beats first national security test - 4/14/2009 7:37:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Heh...  I'm starting to think your more towards the middle than I had you pegged...

And yes he did.


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Oh I don't know Owner Clinton had some peacock in him.

In truth sanity ,probably a lot closer than you would think,but have no fear....no one ,absolutly no one, would make such an assumption where your concerned.Your right wing credentials are set in stone

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