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Christinestill -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 8:45:49 AM)

a year after my divorce i was date raped.  when i found out i was pregnant i was floored.  it took me a few days to gather my thoughts.  did abortion cross my mind?  YES.  but in the end i decided it wasn't the baby's fault that 2 adults got together (under whatever circumstances), and made a baby.  i realized i couldnt' provide a good life for this baby at that point so i found a couple to adopt the baby.  5 months into it i had a miscairrage.  i'll admit it was really hard but a relief at the same time.  does being relieved and at first considering abortion make me a hypocrite because i'm generally anti abortion?  i don't think so.  we all have our views and opinions.  my political offiliation makes no difference in any of this.  it is what it is.  my thoughts are my own.  we are all human beings no matter our political views. 

owner, if palin were a liberal would you be so judgemental?  i doubt it, but being the fallible human that i am, i can't be sure.




slvemike4u -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 8:52:32 AM)

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.Therefore no need to be judgemental.By the by, how judgemental do you find it when those on the right refer to abortion as murder.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:16:46 AM)

Palin made a choice.

Several of the women on this thread have said that they too, considered the option, and made choices that were appropriate to them.

Unfortunately, Palin, as an elected official, and a voice to a minority of Americans, wishes to remove that choice from all women within the US, for all time. No exceptions. Not even if the life of the mother is in jeapordy, or if the fetus is horrifically deformed. Her position is extremist.

Most theologins believe that it is the nature of our choices in life that determines the quality of our souls. By interfering in this, perhaps one of the most significant choices a human being can make, (to bring new life into the world, or not) Palin and her ilk commit a far greater sin. They come between people, and their ability to control their own destinies. They come between them and God. 




Christinestill -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:20:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.Therefore no need to be judgemental.By the by, how judgemental do you find it when those on the right refer to abortion as murder.


i have a very liberal male friend who considers abortion murder.  why is it that some think it's a party view?  it's a personal view and opinion...AGAIN, i ask...why are some things viewed as political?  i guess i dont' understand why everything comes down to political views to some.




slvemike4u -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:38:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Christinestill

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.Therefore no need to be judgemental.By the by, how judgemental do you find it when those on the right refer to abortion as murder.


i have a very liberal male friend who considers abortion murder.  why is it that some think it's a party view?  it's a personal view and opinion...AGAIN, i ask...why are some things viewed as political?  i guess i dont' understand why everything comes down to political views to some.
Are you seriously asking why abortion,in this country,is political?A liberal who beleives abortion is murder should reexamine how he identify's.Referring to a woman's right to choose in terms such as murder is the province of the religious right.




Christinestill -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:49:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: Christinestill

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.Therefore no need to be judgemental.By the by, how judgemental do you find it when those on the right refer to abortion as murder.


i have a very liberal male friend who considers abortion murder.  why is it that some think it's a party view?  it's a personal view and opinion...AGAIN, i ask...why are some things viewed as political?  i guess i dont' understand why everything comes down to political views to some.
Are you seriously asking why abortion,in this country,is political?A liberal who beleives abortion is murder should reexamine how he identify's.Referring to a woman's right to choose in terms such as murder is the province of the religious right.


no i'm not, i'm just stating that there are liberals and conservatives with some of the same views.  sorry you missed the point your highness.




thishereboi -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:51:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.



Really? You honestly believe all liberals are pro-choice? That is as stupid as saying all conservative are anti-abortion. Just not true.




slvemike4u -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:54:50 AM)

When is the coronation.....you seem to have a slight problem with those that disagree with you.You asked why some things are viewed as political...evidencing a complete lack of the history of this issue....is it my fault I took this ignorance in a literal fashion.Rereading your post it still seems has if you are asking a rediculous question in a completely serious manner.




slvemike4u -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:56:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.



Really? You honestly believe all liberals are pro-choice? That is as stupid as saying all conservative are anti-abortion. Just not true.

No thishereboi,not all liberals are pro-choice.....but please show me a liberal this anti choice...and I'll show you a conservative in denial.




Owner59 -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:57:14 AM)

blah blah blah...

Ok which party has a platform against abortion?

Which doesn`t?

Which party is going through a debilitating internal argument over abortion rights?

Which one isn`t?




sirsholly -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:57:14 AM)

Palins stance on abortion is political.

But if you really think about it..this thread is about a fleeting thought which did not have a damn thing to do with politics. It was the thought of a heartbroken human being dealing with a heartbreaking situation.




Christinestill -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:57:25 AM)

might be that i may hve to change my sigline to be "ridiculous but serious at the same time as stated by a closed minded liberal."

thank fucking god that i have people like you to set me straight.  please tell me, what should i eat for lunch today? 




thishereboi -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:58:28 AM)

I said your assertion was incorrect. You turning around and calling me ignorant doesn't change that. Not all liberals think pro-choice is the way to go. You may think they need to reexamine how they identify, but it really isn't any of your business.




Owner59 -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:59:02 AM)

And useing it for political ends.It and she are fair game.




thishereboi -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 9:59:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If Palin were a liberal her stance on Choice would not be what it is.



Really? You honestly believe all liberals are pro-choice? That is as stupid as saying all conservative are anti-abortion. Just not true.

No thishereboi,not all liberals are pro-choice.....but please show me a liberal this anti choice...and I'll show you a conservative in denial.


The pastor at our chuch is, and no he isn't in denial. Most of the things he holds important fall in line with the left. This issue doesn't. It's simple really.




sirsholly -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 10:04:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

And useing it for political ends.It and she are fair game.
not on her family or decisions concerning them, Owner.




camille65 -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 10:05:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

And useing it for political ends.It and she are fair game.


This is the crux of it all. She does use her 'decision' as a political tool to further her beliefs.
I think this is where the disdain concerning this comes from.

Yup I am completely for keeping the choice available to women. If someone does not avail themselves of that choice, then fine. But at least they have the option.

The option cannot be taken away this late in the game. Medical advancement cannot be undone.




Owner59 -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 10:06:02 AM)

Everyone is against abortion.No one wants one.

Pro choice folks aren`t for abortion.That`s ridiculous.

Pro choice people are pro-     choice.

Palin is against choice,except for herself.She made a choice.

I think it`s to simple,really,for some to see the distinction.




thishereboi -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 10:08:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Everyone is against abortion.No one wants one.

Pro choice folks aren`t for abortion.That`s ridiculous.

Pro choice people are pro-     choice.

Palin is against choice,except for herself.She made a choice.

I think it`s to simple,really,for some to see the distinction.


Ok, let me try to simplify it for you.

He is liberal....he is against abortion. as in not pro choice. Got it now? Not all liberals are pro choice.




sirsholly -> RE: Anti-choice Gov.Palin Considered Abortion For Herself (4/18/2009 10:10:16 AM)

quote:

Palin is against choice,except for herself.She made a choice.


Owner...i am going to go and slam my head against the wall now. Can i send you the bill for the Tylenol? [:)]




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