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Venatrix -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 7:30:32 AM)
Actually, I had planned only to drop hot ash on whoever the dear boy in question might be, but I hadn't planned to let him know that in advance. As much as I loathe cigarettes, there's something very sexy about blowing the smoke into a lad's face. And the herbal cigarettes do smell a lot nicer than regular ones, something for which to be grateful if you are on the receiving end. All Peons, of any sort whatsoever, will be gagged. That would make for the best sort of interrogation. He obviously can't give me the info I want if he can't talk, so I'll just have to keep right on torturing him. "Sorry, boy, didn't understand that." Thwack!

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 7:45:13 AM)
Uhhhhh, now you are going to torture somebody and you worry if the smoke of herbal cigs are nicer for him than real cigs???? I would assume that the smoke is possibly the least of his worries... As for the gag, excellent idea, may I offer some further improvements that are lots of fun? 1. With a ball gag you might want to cover part of it with peppermint oil, very sharp and stingy sensation when anywhere near the mucus membrane, great fun to watch how they are trying to keep the ball in place so it won't slip and they won't have to taste it, never works of course, but they never stop trying.... 2. Fill their mouth with hot japaleno (sp?) peppers and then give them a gag or duct tape the mouth shut, as long as they don't talk, or try to scream, they are fine, but you know since they might not do that, you might be forced to crank it up a notch or two... - If you are feeling particularly cruel, use a razor blade to have tiny little slits in said peppers, together with the saliva it will create a nice stingy sensation....

Venatrix -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 8:01:28 AM)
Oddly enough, I actually do care about my subs. I've got this strange idea that we should both have a good time.

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 8:16:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Venatrix Oddly enough, I actually do care about my subs. I've got this strange idea that we should both have a good time. Well, I have the same idea, the: "Right, I am going to torture him and since he's a masochist he will like it" certainly appeals to me, but the idea of "Oh herbal smoke will be nicer for him in a torture/interrogation scene" is something that seems a bit strange to me. I would think the torture scene is designed to make it as uncomfortable and painful for him as possible, I assume you're not going to whack him with a feather duster as this would possibly also be nicer for him?

LadyPact -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 8:24:07 AM)
Quick helpful hint. If your eyes light up at the thought of doing such a scene, you're probably a sadist.

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 8:34:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Quick helpful hint. If your eyes light up at the thought of doing such a scene, you're probably a sadist. Ha ha ha, other half turned round and saw me grinning, automatically said "You aren't thinking about whipping or torturing somebody?"

pinnipedster -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 8:51:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Well, I have the same idea, the: "Right, I am going to torture him and since he's a masochist he will like it" certainly appeals to me, but the idea of "Oh herbal smoke will be nicer for him in a torture/interrogation scene" is something that seems a bit strange to me. I would think the torture scene is designed to make it as uncomfortable and painful for him as possible, I assume you're not going to whack him with a feather duster as this would possibly also be nicer for him? Well, remember, you're going to have to keep smelling him, too....

LadyHibiscus -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:02:25 AM)
Now I have a craving for clove cigarettes! I am SO suggestible when it comes to pleasures...

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:10:19 AM)
Tickle torture is cruel... But if I would want to cause hurt (as opposite to good pain) I would not do the warm up and all that, with very few exceptions (I think I only met 2 of them) most masochists do like a slow pain build up, slow is relative though and with some you can crank it up faster, that's one of the reasons why in a whipping scene you start lightly, first of all it's better for the skin, and it makes it easier for the endorphins to be released. There have actually been situations where masos reacted so much on the endorphins, that I had to tell them "no further with this action" - it can lead the bottom to completely lose perspective of what their body can take, because to them it feels so good.

AAkasha -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:18:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsFlutter quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha When all is said and done, I consider myself more of a "top and a sadist" or "bondage top" specifically than a "serve me" type femdom, but at the same time, I have pretty high standards of maintenance - but it's not that I get any sexual or erotic thrill from it, or even feel "contented" by it - I just am not domestic, but I am happy to take the role of workaholic in exchange for having a domestic partner. My dominance of him, however, is all physical and sensual - not in a "wash my clothes, bitch!" kind of way. Wow - you absolutely nailed THAT one on the head. An absolutely crystalline articulation. This could (re)ignite a whole 'nother debate about a top not being as engaged - or as invested- in WIITWD. About how it would suggest episodical interest rather than a 'lifestyle' mindset. ('lifestyle' differentiating from 'pro domme' in this context). If, for any one of MANY reasons, there is no service aspect, does this by attribution change someone's status from Dom/me to Top? Does it connotate less skill? (these are rhetorical questions - you just got me started LOL). It is not rare to hear "s/he's not a Dom/me really - s/he's just a top." Just? Why is it 'just'?. Are the skills less? Is the enthusiasm less? I'm sure that whole topic is as old as the hills, yes? I have often considering "relabeling" myself as a top, or a bondage top, or a mostly-bondage, semi-sadist top with a twist of lime, whatever. When I was single, I found that some men felt that this meant that arrogant asshole-type men or bossy, obnoxious types or "control freak" men were at the top of my list, and it meant I would dominate/top men for jollies but they could treat me anyway they wanted. "bondage tops" screams "free Pro Domina session" or "free dominatrix." The fact that I don't expect or want "service" (hell, I will pay a masseuse for massages and the salon to do my nails rather than turn and hour of each into a 'session' with a boytoy unless I want an S&M outcome, not the actual service, if that makes sense), doesn't mean I don't want to be respected and treated with class, and it doesn't mean I desire control-freak type men who just are pain junkies and want to see what they can take. From the start of my "dating life," I have preferred to be pursuer and seducer, initiating contact, initiating first kisses, initiating sex. This is where it gets complicated. Even though I would not label my full time relationship as "24/7 power exchange" (I am not actively thinking about domination unless the toys are out and we're engaging in S&M), I clearly wear the pants in the relationship, and dictate the pace and nature of everything - from when we have sex to how we spend our money. But how we interact, as a couple, our dynamic seems no more out of the ordinary than a vanilla couple (I suppose in some parts of the world it's still more uncommon to see a woman working and a man staying at home, but it's not so rare here). But I see more "woman in control" vibe in 7 out of the 10 relationships I am aware of, and they are NOT kinky couples - they are couples where terms like "pussy whipped" or "hen pecked" are terms used. They are happy about it and don't care, but the woman is very controlling and very demanding and the men jump through hoops. While I have that relationship also, I don't flaunt it in front of other people and am more subtle about it (and, perhaps it's because my man is so well "trained" that he's stealth, I rarely "demand" anything as he's usually just taken care of it, vs. other couples where the woman is contantly, "Get me this - go buy that, stand over here, hold my purse, go get the car, etc,. etc. etc). So I have no idea what my "label" is. But it certainly doesn't keep me up at night. Akasha

LadyPact -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:29:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Quick helpful hint. If your eyes light up at the thought of doing such a scene, you're probably a sadist. Ha ha ha, other half turned round and saw me grinning, automatically said "You aren't thinking about whipping or torturing somebody?" LOL. MP can spot it in Me in a second. He literally just said "When your eyes change, I know something's up."

LadyHibiscus -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:30:29 AM)
LOL! Subs tell me that all the time, I get that "expression". Luckily they seem to find that a Good Thing. [:D]

MisterP61 -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:33:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Quick helpful hint. If your eyes light up at the thought of doing such a scene, you're probably a sadist. Ha ha ha, other half turned round and saw me grinning, automatically said "You aren't thinking about whipping or torturing somebody?" LOL. MP can spot it in Me in a second. He literally just said "When your eyes change, I know something's up." Just nods. LOL

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:52:42 AM)
I never watched myself when it happens, but one guy said the moment he mentioned that he does like getting whipped, I reminded him of his pointer when he says "Let's go out", well I doubt that I wagged a tail and started barking and fetching a lead, but it is a feeling that is not all that different from being a kid and having a birthday, the moment before you get to tear into your wrapped parcels and discover what's in them...

Venatrix -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 9:59:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze but the idea of "Oh herbal smoke will be nicer for him in a torture/interrogation scene" is something that seems a bit strange to me. I would think the torture scene is designed to make it as uncomfortable and painful for him as possible, I assume you're not going to whack him with a feather duster as this would possibly also be nicer for him? I guess I'm having trouble understanding why you have trouble understanding that I or my sub wouldn't want to smell or ingest something as repulsive as a regular cigarette, regardless of whether we're involved in a "torture" scene or not.

PeonForHer -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 10:08:51 AM)
What about a pipe? That might work for the Nazi interrogation scene.

Venatrix -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 10:10:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer What about a pipe? That might work for the Nazi interrogation scene. We're doing Nazis, not My Fair Lady.

LadyConstanze -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 10:18:16 AM)
If you don't want to smell it, that is alright, if the sub in question has a health concern, absolutely fine, but since you are going through so much trouble to make it real for you, with uniforms, replicas, all that, chances are a lot of the things that will happen will be things that he doesn't like, which is perfectly fine, because subs who are into that kind of scenario have a good time from not having a good time (in an odd way that makes sense) so I couldn't understand why you said that "It will be nicer for him" or something to that effect. Personally (and not intended as an attack, just my personal opinion) I would find anything that slightly resembles Nazi paraphernalia as repulsive, but that has personal reasons as my grandfather happened to have a political disagreement with that regime and I saw the scars, so I could never get around that. I fully understand that for other people it doesn't carry the same emotional connotations and that it is a turn on for them. Also a lot of subs actually do get a kick out of the real cigarette smoke been blown into their faces, oddly enough the ones that are most keen on that are violent non-smokers. But if you find cigarette smoke horrible and don't want it anywhere near you, that's actually enough reason, isn't it? Has little to do with the fact that the sub has a good time, unless he expressed a dislike of cigarettes, because the smell might make him sick, give him asthma attacks, etc.

PeonForHer -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 10:31:57 AM)
For God's sake, Lady C, Venatrix: What sub's going to care about cigarette smoke one way or another in that kind of scene? Nah, herbals would do if the interrogator in question didn't like the standard tobacco items. I'd just hope no goose stepping would be involved. I don't feel that this would add to the erotic ambience, somehow.

Venatrix -> RE: How sadistic are you? (5/12/2009 10:35:18 AM)
Actually, the Germans bombed my mother out of her house, so I've no love for the regime, but, of course, it's no surprise that lots of kinky people like to play with things that repel them. And if I really were trying to be authentic, not that I ever said I was, I'd have to wear an incredibly ghastly uniform. The Nazis' uniforms for women were hideous. As for the rest of your post, it sounds like you espouse a "correct" set of motivations versus an "incorrect" set. I'm afraid my motivations when it comes to d/s are too complex to reduce them to something so formulaic.

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