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DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 3:14:45 AM)

I just wish I could have my friends and family back. It hurts. I didn't do anything wrong, but now I'm a pariah, all for being transsexual.



housesub4you -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 3:18:19 AM)

Oh boy...OK so YOU admit having a horrible day, maybe just maybe you are responsible for your own feelings.  perhaps you are the one who needs to cut yourself some slack.

Wow, ten posts and you think everyone is against you.  What makes you so special?  Your post-op so what?  I do not know of 1 person on this site who has only received positive feedback from their posts. 

Dam I get crap all the time on here, either in a response or they send me a message to my profile.  So fucking what???  You're depressed, you're whatever...join the club sweety, if you read the posts on here you are not alone in any of your troubles.

It just depends on how YOU want to take it, you can either let it bring you down or you can just go about living your life knowing that everyone gets shit on at times and it has nothing to do with what gender you are or change to.  Because in this here country, everyone is free to hate who ever they want for whatever reasons they want.....but that does mean you have to listen to them or believe them....just move on with your life



switchmichelle -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 3:18:31 AM)

I don't hate transexuals at all but there again I'm not a lesbian



subtlebutterfly -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 3:52:18 AM)

I'm gay. I have issues with transgendered transsexual etcetc on here when they claim to be a female..but not trans, 'cause no offense you weren't born with the right parts so..just..don't "pretend" you were born with them.  (no I don't have the terms right 'cause I simply can't remember the words for each..I'm talkin 'bout both the preop/postop)
However you seem to be one of those smart ones that claim to be trans switch so meh I feel simply..neutral.  
The trans I've encountered however have always been extreme, and everything about them is extreme so it's kinda repulsive...same as with many gays I hate extremists that wander around with a friggin blingbling-gay sign on their foreheads.
However..trans gays whateva that don't need feel the need to walk around with a billboard claiming "what" they are...I think there's nothing wrong with them.

BTW... Your statement about being as much a woman as any natural-born woman..not everybody is going to agree with you there. In my opinion you are not and you never will be but that doesn't mean I hate you I simply wouldn't do you.
Being transsexual is hard you must've known beforehand that it wasn't going to be easy and there're many families that leave their ppl 'cause of it, just like there're some families that support them. It's called life it's unfair it's a bitch..get used to it.
Go to transgendered support groups, they do exist. I don't believe the LGBT community has told you to fuck off 'cause you're transgendered, maybe there're other issues you have that don't make you welcome or maybe it's your hormones acting out 'cause you can't expect EVERYbody to like you being transsexual.[8|]
But to wrap it up....you're way too negative! So if you go all over the place whining about nobody lovin you etcetcetc you aint going to get much more than fake sympathy and you're making it much harder on yourself rather than if you'd say 'fuck all I'm gonna stay positive n be cool about being me'.



WetBetty -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 4:21:01 AM)

Wise words Butterfly



barelynangel -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 4:44:22 AM)

Perhaps its time you stop making yourself a victim of everyone else. I told a friend of mine just yesterday who blames everyone else for his unhappiness that only HE can make himself miserable and unhappy. Only he can continually make himself a victim. HE says he is unhappy and yet instead of doing something about it, he enjoys being unhappy and miserable and a victim because if he wasnt he would 1) have nothing to talk about and 2) he would have to take responsibikiity for his choices. You made a choice that was very unorthodoxed still in our world, now you are upset because people aren't treating you how your fantasy idea sets out, its not all love and acceptance. I mean you don't like a post and are for lack of better word now whining on how you may not come back to this site --

This is an example -- seriously, why would people who don't know you, and only see you post (negatively quite a bit someone mentioned) on a message board care if you return or not? This is expecting a little too much of people and perhaps that's what part of your issue is -- you believe everyone should just do what YOU want them to do. Life isn't like that.

It sounds like you have an its all about me -- hey look what i did mom, mentality where you want people to pat you on the head and say yeah, now come be our friend. LIFE doesn't work like that.

Now -- people at times get their panties out of wack because of MY preferences and MY likes and dislikes, views, mindsets, and understandings, the difference between you and i --- i really don't care if they like it or not. MY life isn't devestated because nicknames or even people met offlne decide they don't like my choices. What i always love is when people attack me lol because they want to somehow "shame" me into not being fully accepting or liberal of EVERY person and their choices. I honestly could care LESS what others choose to do with their lives -- i don't know the MAJORITY of people in the world, however, when someone enters MY life, i have a right to determine what i like, don't like, accept, or not into my life and then in what way AND whether or not i wish to keep them around. Whether YOU (general) LIKE my CHOICES, is up to you -- but just as you judge me by my choices, it goes both ways, i will judge you on yours. This is how people work. Whether its you making a sex change choice, or someone else deciding being miserable is more important than not, or someone else chosing to rob a store or sell or do drugs etc, these are YOUR choices --- its my choice what to accept in people i allow close and in my inner circle. One thing i am good at which has its positives and negatives is i am very good at indifference. It drives my friends lol nuts, because they say its like a switch in me lol.

Perhaps its time to create your own power. It seems you believe everyone else empowers you or disempower you. You have made some pretty unorthodox decisions in your life -- which is comendable, you HAD THE STRENGTH to do this, you somehow have shown in the past you are capable of being empowered enough to turn your life completely upside down and sideways -- perhaps you need to find that again. You've made your decisions and perhaps now you are simply expecting too much of others because of this BIG woo hoo thing you did FOR YOURSELF. Now you have to live FOR YOURSELF. Stamping your feet and threatening to take your ball and go home -- will probably simply have people waving saying don't let the door hit ya... Making a BIG DEAL out of your decisions (in other words continuously bringing it up in a way wherein you want everyone to appaud or MAKE some comment or GIVE some attention to them) is going to get you having people tell you exactly what they think.

Stop worrying about what others do or don't accept and simply be you -- and stop being a victim of everyone else. You may stand alone, or find that as you stand people will accept you, they will enjoy you, and you will blink and realze you aren't as alone as you thought, but one suggestion --- the drama isn't cool and is rather dull. Sorry but if you believe you should have all encompasing acceptance of your choices, you are living in a fantasy world. Perhaps its time to stop focusing so much on who doesn't want to bother with you, and focus on who does.

In the end the only one you should expect to be completely and utterly accepting of you and your choices and decisions for your life is well -- you.

Find your power, empower yourself, and realize if you focus on the non-acceptance *which is usually louder than anything else) you are probably going to miss the acceptance.

angel



DemonKia -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 5:17:47 AM)

FR

I'm off to sleepy land so my last thoughts are:

There was some tough love up there. Personally, I like tough love, I trust it more than the squishier stuff sometimes . . .. . Partly cuz I've had my share of fair-weather 'friends' who split when I really needed them, they were good at the happy jolly times but they bailed when the going got tough. Their loss, not mine. I know that I'm an amazing, beautiful, brilliant, good & decent human being.

If you need a font of unending love & support & affirmation, you need to be that for yourself. I wish I could offer up a magic wand that would fix everything, I really do. But the reality is that only I can be my everything, only I can be the care & concern I want in life; everyone else are mostly mirrors of what I project outward from my inner core. That's my experience.

& life can be very hard & painful, that never changes, but we can treasure the good stuff when it does happen, & cultivate our own inner wondrousness.



Rule -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 5:39:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666
Actually it's hard to be positive. I've been blown off across multiple dating sites simply for being transsexual.

pahunkboy already said it: "..the Internet is not the place to meet MR Right.   In person... around town". That is my opinion also.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666
I'm always honest up front. I'm a caring and loving person, but I'm transsexual. I'm a good person and a very gentle and tender person usually, but in the last eight months, I lost all my friends, most of my family, and can't get a date with anyone, all over my transsexuality and people's "discomfort" with it.

How about leaving the buts out of it? Those are all negative. What is left when the buts are left out of it, is positive.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666
It's gotten old and I've gotten bitter. I have no positive experiences to show for my honesty. I'm hurting, bad. I don't really have any positivity left in me because I lost everything and everyone that ever meant anything to me. If you could only understand, fathom what that kind of loss does to a person's self-esteem . . .

So mourn your loss and move on to an improved self-esteem.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666
I wanna experience new things. I want to be adventurous. I wanna learn more.

So do.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666
Problem is, no one is willing to give me a chance. I've gotten to the point of giving up hope.

Are you willing to give you a chance?

Reading all your posts in this thread, I see quite a lot of drama and emotions that go in every direction and then some.
So I am wondering if possibly your mental state is caused by hormonal surplusses or imbalances? I suppose that you take hormonal suplements? Go and consult with your physician about your problems and your dosage. In my opinion you do require (medical) help.

You have a new body now, and those hormones are changing your brain. How about finding your new self first before you try to date?
And you do not need to tell everybody that you are transsexual; only the one that may become your significant other.

People are wary of the new and strange. Neither do they like people with problems and they shy away from such people. When you tell someone that you are transsexual, either he won't care - so there is no use in telling him, or he is likely to think that "she has got a problem" and will shy away from you - so there is no sense in telling him either.



DarkSteven -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 5:59:17 AM)

Lindsey, I knew a gay man once who hated a female friend of mine just for being a woman.  I suspect that he may have resented her because of the times he had hit on a guy and lost him to a woman.

There are some lesbians that do not like men.  You're a natural target for them.  It's unfortunate that there are so few lesbians that a few can create a very strong influence.

A couple of suggestions:
1. Take a break.  For now, go somewhere different for a day.  Enjoy living life as a girl, in a different place, and enjoy a new kind of reality.  Eventually, you may want to relocate, and you can use day trips to see what you like.
2. I know that your new sexual identity is important to you.  I get the feeling that it currently defines you, and that you talk about it a lot.  Your friends don't want that - they want the parts of you that they knew before.  Force yourself to ask them about what's going on in their world, and you may be able to reconnect.

Good luck!



samboct -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 6:45:08 AM)

Hi Lindsey

Let me throw out a few observations and 2 concrete suggestions-

1)  Go read some John Varley-he's the best author I know of in terms of dealing with transexual issues.

2)  Get some exercise- I'll bet you haven't slept well and blow some oxygen through the brain.  Best short term depression cure going.  Then go find a good shrink.  Use the website of the American Psychoanalytic Association to find an analyst in your locale- they're the best trained.

Observations:

You have a chip on your shoulder a mile wide and its very difficult for anyone to get near you.  You wouldn't want to get near you- it's walking on eggshells.  Pahunkboy is a sweet guy (based on reading his posts for over a year) and what he wrote was honest and from the heart.  Your interpretation was that it was hurtful- but that certainly wasn't his intent.  If someone who is trying to be nice to you has to do so in such a careful manner that it requires them to either be a mind reader or to follow your instructions exhaustively, it comes across as either controlling or paranoid.

This also means that your complaints about losing all your friends is probably overblown.  Friends need to be able to deal with the other person as a human being, flaws and all.  Right now, they can't deal with you that way since you're on such a hair trigger, and unless they accept you as perfect and incapable of making a mistake, you get angry and unhappy with them.  Hint- suicide is deeply entwined with anger.

Also- somebody used the word "judgmental" in a response to you.  Shrinks are the only people who should be non-judgmental- it's part of their professional training.  The rest of us are judgmental- its an essential part of the animal kingdom and how creatures, including humans, survive.  (Yes, I know the secondary definition of the word implies to judge harshly.)  The word you're looking for in terms of discrimination is sanctimonious.

HTH,

Sam




persephonee -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 6:50:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


Hi Lindsey.

Nice pussy.

I mean kitty.

Lesbians like kitties.

Or is that titties?

Crap, now I can't remember.

Wait, you've had enough crap.

So Linsey, if I were to become a transexual, but then was attracted to only women, thus
becoming a lesbian, would I hate myself, should I hate myself, could I hate myself?

Probably not, and most lesbians probably don't hate you either. Could be a blend of
past experience, current perception, and expectation of what might come.

I must say however, that from my own experience, some (NOT ALL, inhale girls, and again)
in the alternative community, can sometimes be some of the most tacky, cruel and judgmental of
the people they associate with. I am sure each have their own reasoning for such, whether they
feel justified in doing such or not. The best defense is a good offense and all, protecting some
of the most painful scars which are not displayed for the eyes of the world to see. We are not
one another. We know one another, but we are as individual as we allow ourselves to be.

Certainly there must be a positive support system you can turn to, or leaned on when you were
moving forward from a mental and spiritual transformation into a physical one. Avoid the trap
you yourself abhor as you journey, such as convicting all the religious right as discriminating
against the LGBT community. (You yourself left the T out of the commonly used script)

Let your light shine, and it will shine on those before you, reflecting in multitude the brightness.

Let your words be as a song sung in harmony, uplifting and enlightening, your happiness as instrument.

You somehow found the strength in you to complete a life change few of us could find the courage to do.

Remember that, remember you.

chia* (the pet)



Encore....Encore....Encore!!!!!



Marc2b -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 7:21:15 AM)

quote:

Hi Lindsey.

Nice pussy.

I mean kitty.

Lesbians like kitties.

Or is that titties?

Crap, now I can't remember.

Wait, you've had enough crap.

So Linsey, if I were to become a transexual, but then was attracted to only women, thus
becoming a lesbian, would I hate myself, should I hate myself, could I hate myself?

Probably not, and most lesbians probably don't hate you either. Could be a blend of
past experience, current perception, and expectation of what might come.

I must say however, that from my own experience, some (NOT ALL, inhale girls, and again)
in the alternative community, can sometimes be some of the most tacky, cruel and judgmental of
the people they associate with. I am sure each have their own reasoning for such, whether they
feel justified in doing such or not. The best defense is a good offense and all, protecting some
of the most painful scars which are not displayed for the eyes of the world to see. We are not
one another. We know one another, but we are as individual as we allow ourselves to be.

Certainly there must be a positive support system you can turn to, or leaned on when you were
moving forward from a mental and spiritual transformation into a physical one. Avoid the trap
you yourself abhor as you journey, such as convicting all the religious right as discriminating
against the LGBT community. (You yourself left the T out of the commonly used script)

Let your light shine, and it will shine on those before you, reflecting in multitude the brightness.

Let your words be as a song sung in harmony, uplifting and enlightening, your happiness as instrument.

You somehow found the strength in you to complete a life change few of us could find the courage to do.

Remember that, remember you.

chia* (the pet)



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What he said.

To which I would add:

Always bear in mind that when someone espouses hatred of you and seeks to disparege you for simply being who you are - the fault lies with them, not you.

You have the courage to be who you are.  I admire that.  Not many people have that kind of iron in their back bone.




pahunkboy -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 7:25:07 AM)

I am sorry if I was snappy.

I went thru a period where life - in my mind- shorted me.   I was promised a rose garden and did not get one.

So- in time- what I did- is I made my own rose garden.

When I see a trans online- I am on guard as sometimes men pretend to be woman and hit on males.
Anyone with a low post number  will go thru a trial period.  The regulars are wondering- is this person a spammer, or player and is the new one a threat to the board.   Ask Johny,  I grilled him a few weeks back. As it turns out- I was wrong. He really had met members of this group- in fact some had gone to his wedding.

You will find casual banter to be a special place.  Between us we have some great experience and incite.

I have posted things here that I never would have posted elsewhere.  I took a chance that some good advice would result- and 9 out of 10 times it does,   

Do not underestimate the talent pool here.   - and for that matter do not underestimate yourself.

You are welcome to hang with us.  Try us out for 2 months.  

As to friendships- Jim, Jenny and I have taken breaks from our friendship.   Space and time.   No blame- just a time out.   I have lost friends, I still have the letter from high school when Mark sent me a letter- saying we can no longer be friends because I am gay.
My other best freind from high school went on to scam a car dealership (he set out to inherit it)   He still owes me $63.

Brian from OK, disappeared.  We talked rotuinely 5 hours on the phone.   He must be alive as I checked the SS death index and he is not listed.


No matter what your lot is in life- things are not the worst ever and many have it worse.   Here I just complained- but I have heat and food and a roof.  That is better then some.\


I do not hate my parents.... I try not to change people.  I am whole as an individual- if a friend or mate happens- then that is bonus.  I dont want a crutch person, nor will I be the crutch.  The sole reason to celebrate life.

We live in a temporary world.   People go thru stages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EZJIC2DcPI     <--  my garden.




GreedyTop -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 7:40:28 AM)

Hunky.. the link didnt work.. said something about a malformed video? 

And I love this:
quote:

I am whole as an individual- if a friend or mate happens- then that is bonus.  I dont want a crutch person, nor will I be the crutch.



LaTigresse -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 8:06:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666

As a transsexual woman, I've gotten nothing but crapped and spit on by the LGB community. I am starting to find it hard to defend homosexuals when they seem to hate me so much over something I was born with. I've already seen people on this site, lesbians, who say outright no transgendered people allowed, which is discrimination.

Seriously. Why is there discrimination inside the LGBT community? It makes no sense. How can gays and lesbians expect to be free of discrimination when they actually discriminate themselves against transsexuals? A male-to-female transsexual, once post-op, is just as much a woman as any natural-born woman and is just as much a woman as any lesbian. So why all the hate? You all should know better.

~Lindsey


This bug that is kicking my ass is also short circuiting my brain so I cannot address all the following, really great, posts, or even this one, as I would like to. But I am going to tell you how I feel based upon my own life experiences, the best I can.

Number one, first and foremost, I identify as a lesbian (though many lesbians will argue that point.....fuck em) and I do not hate any one person for their gender or sexuality. Not one. In fact, I don't really hate anyone. But that's neither here nor there.

There are more than a few people I don't like, and a few I really dislike a great deal. Then again, I can be a real anti social bitch. Humanity on the whole tends to annoy me most times.

I cannot tollerate being around people that are drama queens or drama magnets. There are A LOT of fucking drama queens and drama magnets in this world. It's something about their negative energy that sets off a really annoying little siren in my head that sends me right into bitch mode and tells me to retreat to save other lives.

There was a time in my life that I did what I was taught and absorbed their negative shit, tried to help them, listened to them, etc etc etc.... Then I realized I was just enabling their shit. Most of them, live for their drama, and don't really want help escaping it. All I was doing was poisoning myself and my own life.

Then there was a time when, to protect myself, I attacked them for their negative dramatic bullshit. Despising them for their weaknesses, finding all their little soft underbellies and using my sharp teeth and claws, poking, prodding, and enjoying watching them squirm. Usually pushing them closer and closer to their edges and laughing as I blamed their weaknesses for allowing me. Thinking their pain and misery was all their fault, I was just showing them the obvious. If I really disliked them, I would push until they went over the edge. I still blamed them. Not very nice of me, but it was my defense against the negativity I could not handle.

Now I simply try and retreat from it. Knowing there is probably very little I can do to help them, but there is an awful lot I can do to hurt them. I am best when dealing with most people from a safe distance. Not for me, as much as, for them. I know how to protect myself from their crap. It's just that when I am tired, or whatever, my best defense becomes a wicked nasty offense.

All of that garbage being said, perhaps there are other people like me. Not particularly hateful of any one type at all. Just using their defenses and being perceived as hateful. I only suggest this because your posts are very negative (which is probably understandable given what you have been through) and drama filled. I have found that you will get back what you are putting out there, most of the time. So if you are walking around with this drama filled negative energy that I got from your post, you are going to get negative drama back. Most of the time. Get rid of the negativity and drama.

Were I in your shoes, I would focus on getting myself together before even thinking about a relationship. That is just me and others might suggest the very opposite. I am one of those people that want to have my shit together and be the best ME I can, before bringing someone else into the mix of my life. I also believe that if I want someone wonderful, I've got to be pretty fucking wonderful myself. Like attracts like.

My appologies for any confusing or disjointed blah blah blah.......my brain really seems to have stayed in bed this morning.



philosophy -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 8:31:32 AM)

.....i've always admired the sheer commitment of transgenders such as yourself. It takes a lot of balls to do what you've done.....er.......could have phrased that better, but you know what i mean.
From the outside, what you've done is seen as extreme. sort of the most extreme body modification thinkable. As most humans are sort of empathetic, that sort of thing is often translated by people as 'how would that be if i did it?'. For someone without body dismorphia that is damn scary.
What you need to do is remind others (and primarily yourself) just who you are......regardless of gender. You're a thinking, feeling woman. You have interests, hobbies, skills.  You have favourite foods, favourite movies and are either a morning or an evening person. Be all of those, you've been on a long and arduous journey. Now's the time to kick back and just be yourself.....the self you always knew you were.



MissDominae -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 8:51:49 AM)

Hi again Lindsey,
first off, before I say anything, you need to know I'm on "your side" inasmuch as, having transitioned, I understand the pressures, the strains and the inevitable losses transition brings with it, only too well.

OK, let's go .....

I'll never be a woman like other women.   I can only ever be a woman like me and that's all they can ever be too - a woman like themselves.   Where many women have issues with us is the strident insistance that we are 'just like them'.   We aren't - pure and sadly simple.   The issues we have faced, the bodies we were born into and the subsequent steps taken to recitify the error in our bodies are things that the average person - female or male - can intellectually understand but never emotionally appreciate.   Likewise, even though I have ovaries and had a partial womb at birth, I will never be able to emotionally appreciate menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, childhood as a little girl and so on; I have never experienced any of those things in the way a natal woman has and, thus, I bow to their better appreciation of such matters.

None of this makes me anything other than a woman; my gender was determined in my brain.   Your body developed at variance with that determination.   Mine developed with substantial defects that left its presentation neither strictly male nor female.   In my case I don't even know what it was like to grow up as a normal little boy, because I never had that experience either - I was always "the freak" until adulthood came and I was legally permitted to choose a gender.   Despite all of this though - and I'm sharing my story not because I like discussing it in a public forum but because I'm hoping it will give you some help and comfort - I am a woman.   My profile says so, my family says so, my friends say so, my birth certificate and passport say so.   Was I always a woman?   Yes.   Did I always have the body of a woman?  No.   Do I now have the body of the average natal woman? Again no - it isn't pleasant to have to say that, but it IS the truth.   I have MY body, and that is all any of us can ever say.

Our Gender psychologists here in Australia tell us one thing clearly from the start - surgery can never MAKE you a woman.   If that is what you believe and seek, they turn you away.   All surgery does is allows what we perceive as a birth defect to be corrected, in the hope that this will allow us to go on and live happy and productive lives free of the pain of being in a body which is alien to us.   I'm saddened to hear it has not had this effect for you, and angered at what I see as an appaling lack of follow-up support services post surgery; I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you went and had surgery in Thailand and bypassed the HBSOC (to the rest of you dear readers, these are the American medical guidelines for allowing a transsexed person to access surgical reassignment).   If you have gone through a HBSOC approved and supervised transition then I am horrified that you can have reached this place of loneliness, alienation and pain without professional assistance being offered.

Hon, I am about as well accepted as any transitioned person can be, yet my acceptance is not total and never, ever will be.   I knew this would be the case before surgery and it has proven true all these years later.   There will always be people who do not accept those like us because of disagreement with what they incorrectly see as a 'lifestyle choice' or because they cannot accept that we can ever overcome what they see as a lack of upbringing and socialisation as a female.   Ignore them~!   What they think does not matter - what YOU think and feel defines you.   How you react to these feelings and the events in your life now defines you.   You can be a victim.   You can seek pity.   You can blame others for cruel rejection...... OR............ you can accept that you have a new life to create and live and rise to the challenge with enthusiasm and hopes for a positive future outcome.

Facing up to the realities of post-surgery life isn't easy, but it has to be done.   No one can make you do it and, to a large extent, no one can even help you do it - it is a journey each of us must take in our own way.   We can only be here to give encouragement and advice, support and company.

PLEASE stop, get some rest and then seek some professional and personal help.   Don't let yourself spiral downwards into oblivion - you've shown too much courage and come too far to do that to yourself.   Online support like this is no substitute for a real live person who is willing to listen.   Show that strength one more time and seek help - it is out there waiting for you.   So are a world of new friends and new experiences once you are ready.

Be strong.

**Edited to amend typos only**



GreedyTop -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 9:00:12 AM)

Brilliant post..



MissDominae -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 9:03:21 AM)

Thank you Greedy Top ..... that's very kind.

It may not be what Lindsey wants to read but it is what she NEEDS to read, and understand, and accept.



GreedyTop -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/22/2009 9:10:02 AM)

I hope she reads it and takes it to heart



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