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LadyPact -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 4:07:13 AM)
I hate to do it to you, hon, but I'm calling bullshit. No, I'm not a transgendered female, and I have very little to say on that subject (some but not much). What I can tell you for starters is that the GLBT community in GA does not bar transgendered females from their groups or their events. Yes, it is required that any trans person attending a female only event come in their female persona. I know, because I've attended such events and there have been trans females at the occasions. Now, if you expect to walk into any group of people and automatically everyone is going to accept you, or even further, like you, I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. It doesn't work like that for anybody else on the planet either, so you're in good company. I'm the first to admit that you are probably going to face more of that than those of us who were born in the bodies that match the gender that we believe ourselves to be. Even if you didn't go through the pre-op counseling that, I feel, honestly would have aided you during the transition process, you can't tell Me that you were wearing rose colored glasses that were so thick that you thought this whole thing was going to be nothing but happiness and joy. If you did, damn, I need to get an appointment with your optometrist. Speaking of counseling, you need some. My personal opinion is that you need it more than a romantic or intimate D/s relationship of any kind. Why would you ask anyone to involve themselves with a partner who is filled with such a negative view of so many people and is sunk so far in depression that they are threatening suicide on some message board? If you weren't in your current situation, would you want that in a partner? There are too many things you need to work out for yourself before you consider involving anyone else. Before you ask, yes, I would have said the same thing had you been born a female.

thishereboi -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 6:03:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 You make $672 a month from SSI? Ah, don't you think you'd be better off with a j-o-b? I have to agree that is not much to live on. My ex roommate makes 800 a month on ssi and gets his T shots free from the VA. And he works under the table. Doesn't seem fair.

retiredsublady -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 7:03:30 AM)
As my profession is dance, I have been around the gay lifestyle my whole adult life, one truism that I have found is that it is more the gay male who dislikes the transgendered. I have 4 very good friends, who are transgender, and after they had the SRS, and became fenale, they have never worked again as a performer, except in "strip show stuff" 3 out of the 4, are married and live very vanilla lifestyle with no contact to either the gay or transgendered communities, the 4th dances in a gentlemans club in the Los Angeles area, and while not open about her transgender, she does not hide it either, she goes out on casting calls and her resume includes both her male and female credits.

pahunkboy -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 10:41:44 AM)
hormones_ many food products have them. So think that less testosterone makes for a calmer society. Under SSI- one can work for a trial period. 9 months? It must tho be pre-reported. I tried to turn someone in for fraud and it was ignored. Because I did not have their social security number!! For scammers that are frauding it- turn them in. They then would have to repay the over payments. Also- SSI people get reviewed every 3 years..... there is a book 5 inches thick on all the rules....also a separate SSDI is for those who did pay in the 40 quarters... where as if not- then SSI. $672 a month. hmm. That would possibly cover a roof.

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 12:52:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I hate to do it to you, hon, but I'm calling bullshit. No, I'm not a transgendered female, and I have very little to say on that subject (some but not much). What I can tell you for starters is that the GLBT community in GA does not bar transgendered females from their groups or their events. Yes, it is required that any trans person attending a female only event come in their female persona. I know, because I've attended such events and there have been trans females at the occasions. Now, if you expect to walk into any group of people and automatically everyone is going to accept you, or even further, like you, I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. It doesn't work like that for anybody else on the planet either, so you're in good company. I'm the first to admit that you are probably going to face more of that than those of us who were born in the bodies that match the gender that we believe ourselves to be. Even if you didn't go through the pre-op counseling that, I feel, honestly would have aided you during the transition process, you can't tell Me that you were wearing rose colored glasses that were so thick that you thought this whole thing was going to be nothing but happiness and joy. If you did, damn, I need to get an appointment with your optometrist. Speaking of counseling, you need some. My personal opinion is that you need it more than a romantic or intimate D/s relationship of any kind. Why would you ask anyone to involve themselves with a partner who is filled with such a negative view of so many people and is sunk so far in depression that they are threatening suicide on some message board? If you weren't in your current situation, would you want that in a partner? There are too many things you need to work out for yourself before you consider involving anyone else. Before you ask, yes, I would have said the same thing had you been born a female. Dang, I started feeling a little better and then someone like you comes along and just trashes on me. Everything I've said has been the truth. I've been told by more than one lesbian that I "wasn't a real lesbian because I wasn't a real woman". I've been blown off and ignored countless times. It's damn frustrating. Still, I wish people like you would just stay out of my thread, because I don't need this kind of crap from people!

aravain -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 1:05:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666 I've already seen people on this site, lesbians, who say outright no transgendered people allowed, which is discrimination. So when I say 'no women, please' or 'someone around my age' or 'no fatties' or any derivation of preference... that's discrimination. Lets take a look at the core word, here. quote: From Merriam-Webster website Main Entry:dis·crim·i·na·tion [image]http://www.merriam-webster.com/images/audio.gif[/image]Pronunciation: \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\ Function:noun Date:1648 1 a: the act of discriminating b: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently 2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing 3 a: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b: prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination> Yup, you're right. It's discrimination. The question has to be asked, though... is all discrimination bad? NO. Sorry, but discriminating based on preference when searching for a mate is NORMAL. You wouldn't say 'yes' to a date with someone you find ugly, or whom you find replusive in some other sense... why should I have to say yes to anyone who randomly stops by? People (myself included) forget that the person who's rejecting you... yeah, they're ACTUALLY a person! Shocking, I know, but they have JUST as much right to discriminate on partners based on preference as you do. Any woman has just as much right to say 'no transsexuals' as you do to say 'no men.' If you don't agree with that, we won't be able to agree on anything. ~Aravain (the fat, gay, intergendered boy) EDIT: And I don't understand how I am the first person to jump on this issue in four pages.

LaTigresse -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 1:13:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I hate to do it to you, hon, but I'm calling bullshit. No, I'm not a transgendered female, and I have very little to say on that subject (some but not much). What I can tell you for starters is that the GLBT community in GA does not bar transgendered females from their groups or their events. Yes, it is required that any trans person attending a female only event come in their female persona. I know, because I've attended such events and there have been trans females at the occasions. Now, if you expect to walk into any group of people and automatically everyone is going to accept you, or even further, like you, I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. It doesn't work like that for anybody else on the planet either, so you're in good company. I'm the first to admit that you are probably going to face more of that than those of us who were born in the bodies that match the gender that we believe ourselves to be. Even if you didn't go through the pre-op counseling that, I feel, honestly would have aided you during the transition process, you can't tell Me that you were wearing rose colored glasses that were so thick that you thought this whole thing was going to be nothing but happiness and joy. If you did, damn, I need to get an appointment with your optometrist. Speaking of counseling, you need some. My personal opinion is that you need it more than a romantic or intimate D/s relationship of any kind. Why would you ask anyone to involve themselves with a partner who is filled with such a negative view of so many people and is sunk so far in depression that they are threatening suicide on some message board? If you weren't in your current situation, would you want that in a partner? There are too many things you need to work out for yourself before you consider involving anyone else. Before you ask, yes, I would have said the same thing had you been born a female. Dang, I started feeling a little better and then someone like you comes along and just trashes on me. Everything I've said has been the truth. I've been told by more than one lesbian that I "wasn't a real lesbian because I wasn't a real woman". I've been blown off and ignored countless times. It's damn frustrating. Still, I wish people like you would just stay out of my thread, because I don't need this kind of crap from people! Honey if you think what LadyPact wrote was mean crap, you need to put your big girl panties on. You come across as petulant, whiny and very immature. Quit complaining and being so damned defensive and start looking for the positive. If something strikes you as negative, ignore it. Two women, that have dealt with much of the same thing you have, one that I admire and respect, Stella, have both given you some fantastic advise. We ALL have our life shit to deal with, it is HOW you deal with it that counts.

LadyPact -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 1:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DreamGoddess666 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I hate to do it to you, hon, but I'm calling bullshit. No, I'm not a transgendered female, and I have very little to say on that subject (some but not much). What I can tell you for starters is that the GLBT community in GA does not bar transgendered females from their groups or their events. Yes, it is required that any trans person attending a female only event come in their female persona. I know, because I've attended such events and there have been trans females at the occasions. Now, if you expect to walk into any group of people and automatically everyone is going to accept you, or even further, like you, I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. It doesn't work like that for anybody else on the planet either, so you're in good company. I'm the first to admit that you are probably going to face more of that than those of us who were born in the bodies that match the gender that we believe ourselves to be. Even if you didn't go through the pre-op counseling that, I feel, honestly would have aided you during the transition process, you can't tell Me that you were wearing rose colored glasses that were so thick that you thought this whole thing was going to be nothing but happiness and joy. If you did, damn, I need to get an appointment with your optometrist. Speaking of counseling, you need some. My personal opinion is that you need it more than a romantic or intimate D/s relationship of any kind. Why would you ask anyone to involve themselves with a partner who is filled with such a negative view of so many people and is sunk so far in depression that they are threatening suicide on some message board? If you weren't in your current situation, would you want that in a partner? There are too many things you need to work out for yourself before you consider involving anyone else. Before you ask, yes, I would have said the same thing had you been born a female. Dang, I started feeling a little better and then someone like you comes along and just trashes on me. Everything I've said has been the truth. I've been told by more than one lesbian that I "wasn't a real lesbian because I wasn't a real woman". I've been blown off and ignored countless times. It's damn frustrating. Still, I wish people like you would just stay out of my thread, because I don't need this kind of crap from people! In that case I'll say sorry twice because I'm really not here to kiss your behind. If you can name for Me one organization that wouldn't allow you at an event because you are trans and it can be verified, I'll be happy to retract My statement. Until that time, My high opinion of the groups and organizations in this state will stand. Being told by individuals that they don't believe you aren't a real woman isn't the same thing. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions and preferences. If someone doesn't want to be in a personal relationship with you because you used to be what's his name, that's their choice. They might be basing their opinion on the chromosomes you were born with, rather than the defect the surgery corrected. They are just looking at it in a different way than you are and they have the right to do so on a personal level. As LaT said, it's time to put those big girl panties on. If you want people to see you as the person and not the surgery, you're going to have to accept that people aren't just going to jump when you want them to pity you and sometimes, you're going to get called out on your behavior.

GreedyTop -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:18:02 PM)
Lindsay,... maybe you need the balls you have had removed... because you are behaving in a manner far too sensitive to be the strong woman you claim to be.

MissDominae -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:20:24 PM)
quote: Dang, I started feeling a little better and then someone like you comes along and just trashes on me. Everything I've said has been the truth. I've been told by more than one lesbian that I "wasn't a real lesbian because I wasn't a real woman". I've been blown off and ignored countless times. It's damn frustrating. Still, I wish people like you would just stay out of my thread, because I don't need this kind of crap from people! Lindsey hon, I haven't been posting on here for long and I know neither Lady Pact nor La Tigresse except for their posts in this thread, so there is no personal bias in my reply to you here. They are right hon, and you are wrong. You aren't being crapped upon here that I can see. I've also been told by 'more than one lesbian' that I wasn't a real woman etc. I've also been told that by straight women, straight and gay men, representatives of some Fundamentalist Christian groups and so on. That isn't a pattern of organised discrimination; it is, as Aravain very ably pointed out, individuals exercising their individual right to reject or accept whomever they choose for whatever reason they find appropriate for themselves. It may not be fair and their assessment of you may not be accurate but, as individuals, it is their right to make those assessments. You don't have to like it - Goddess knows it hurts me when it happens to me - but you do have to accept it and work past the self-pity. The fact that you are receiving this rejection 'countless times' from within the Lesbian community is probably most indicative that this is the community you are most contacting; thus, there are more individuals of a particular class of people who have more exposure to you and, therefore, more chances to reject you. If it had been the class of people known as left handed redheads who were receiving most of your approaches then it would be they who provided the majority of your rejections, and so on. That's simple statistics for you; as your sample size increases so does the number which represents a statistically significant response. I accept you wholly and totally as a woman (and I am a lesbian, though not from Georgia). Stella, LaTigresse, LadyPact, Retiredsublady, Aravain and many others in this thread have ALL accepted you but have also exercised their right to make comments - some solely supportive, some critiquing, some disagreeing with you - based on their own individual opinions. You cannot wish that people like these stayed out of your thread if you are serious in receiving answers, otherwise all you are seeking is, respectfully, members to join the Lindsey Fan Club and Pity Party, Inc. Hon, I am so on your side that it isn't funny but I'm having to come across like the Wicked Witch of the West in my posts. The reason for that is I have to be honest and call it as I see it and what I see here is (as others have commented also) someone who in bypassing the HSBOC - no matter how good or valid the reasons seemed at the time - has done themselves no favours, left themselves in an emotionally unprepared state post-surgery and is now forced to deal with harsh and unpleasant realities as a consequence; realities that taking the slower and more established route would have seen many of these issues discussed, confronted and dealt with long before surgery. Yes, it can be hard to find a GP to treat you and specialists in the field to consult with; that means you have to work harder and find them, not self-medicate, dodge the system and its safeguards, go offshore and see a surgeon who doesn't give a toss about your emotional health post-surgery and then get suicidal because things aren't rose-coloured glasses ever after. No doubt you will read this post, object to it, feel I am being cruel and heartless and unsupportive and reject it outright, because of course none of what is happening is your fault - it is OUR fault. It is THEIR fault. It is the SYSTEM'S fault. Sorry hon; the system didn't fail you Lindsey - you just never gave it a chance to work for you. The people here aren't failing you because they aren't falling over themselves only to say what you want to hear, and I'm not failing you by telling the truth, no matter how bitter and painful that truth may be. If I didn't care I wouldn't have bothered writing these long and detailed posts. I'm writing them because in my life I have seen too many people make the same mistakes you have made and been to too many funerals of people who thought that bypassing the system was the best and "only" way for them. They paid the price for it and we who are left behind pay that price as well every damn day because we feel that, somehow, we failed them and could have - SHOULD have - done more to help, even though we did all we could. You dodged the system because you wanted to transition whilst you were still enough to get the maximum benefit - has that worked? Are you happier now than if it had taken a year or two longer, do you think? Hate me if you wish. Ignore me if you want but please, at the very least, think about what you are doing to yourself and how you might do it better. Hate me all you want but LIVE. Stop the pity, don't blame others, get help and LIVE.

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:20:45 PM)
@LadyPact and LaTigresse Why did you feel the need to lend such comments, though, after LadyDominae and others had done much to help me out? They were supportive and understanding and nice, and I received their words well. Then, after the fact, you came on here and just lashed out with the mean stuff again. Again, what was your purpose? To be honest, it feels like you did it just to get a rise out of me. I don't appreciate that one bit. If you can't be nice, just go away. By the way, I never spoke of "groups and organizations". I was talking about in dating. I thought I was pretty clear on that point. Still, I maintain what I just said: if you can't be nice, don't talk to me. I take enough crap from people as it is, I don't need to get yet more crap from people on a message board. You say I'm immature? You try losing everything that ever mattered to you in your life in the span of a few months and then come talk to me. It's extremely difficult to find the positive when your life falls apart. Excuse me for being upset and distressed and depressed. You sure as HELL aren't helping.

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:29:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissDominae Hon, I am so on your side that it isn't funny but I'm having to come across like the Wicked Witch of the West in my posts. Actually, you've been one of the people I've appreciated speaking in the thread. You haven't struck me as mean at all. I disagree with your assessment of my problems being associated with bypassing the proper procedures (if only because that would have, at best, only taken more time to get me ready for the rejection that would happen anyway, and there's a very good chance that I never woulda been ready for this level of rejection I've felt to be perfectly honest), but you've been a help. You've been kind instead of critical and judgmental and harsh. To wit, "tough love" doesn't work with me, it only pisses me off, but you haven't done that. Others have, and I don't have appreciation for that. "Tough love" only frustrates me further and makes me angry and more depressed. I'm looking for support and community and friends. I'm looking for help, for a sign that the world isn't as cruel as it currently seems to be. Unfortunately, while you've been a lot of help in helping me past my current downswing, others have only pushed my buttons further and made me feel worse, all but negating the positive aspects, which makes me regret ever speaking out about how I felt and what problems I'm having. I feel like some others are just being bullies to be honest.

MasterVirago -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:31:36 PM)
Well, I have transgendered friends, but I don't date mtf unless they are post op (or pre op ftm) I'm not discrimnating agianst you, I'm discrimnating against penis. I don't like it, and don't want it near me. But you can't expect to make such blanketed statements and then get upset when someone lashes out at you. And you surely shouldn't post on a open blog if you aren't ready for all the responses you may get. Not that I condone or reject those responses. But you have to be prepared.

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:37:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterVirago Well, I have transgendered friends, but I don't date mtf unless they are post op (or pre op ftm) I'm not discrimnating agianst you, I'm discrimnating against penis. I don't like it, and don't want it near me. Now that I can totally understand. That makes sense. Me, I am post-op, that's why I think I'm being perfectly reasonable in EXPECTING to be accepted as a 100% real woman. Those who don't accept me as such are wrong, plain and simple. I went through HELL to get to where I am today, to be a full woman in every way. I'll be damned if I let ignorant people say "you're not a real woman". I don't take that crap lying down, I fight, and I will ALWAYS fight and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about that.

GreedyTop -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:47:45 PM)
hiya MV :) Hope all is well :) Lindsey.. pull your head outta your ass, ok? Lots of people have offered support while also offering advice as to how to improve your perceived experiences. You have pretty much rejected them all except for the tidbits you CHOOSE to hear. Keep it up, hon... self fulfilling prophecies. And from what I am seeing from your posts .. that is all you want. I could be wrong. Prove it. Unless that is all you are after... in which case, stow it. We've heard it before

subtlebutterfly -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 2:51:44 PM)
Start acting like a grown up woman then.

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 3:00:25 PM)
Comments like that are only gonna start a fight with someone like me. I don't take kindly to harshness. It only pisses me off more. All you do when you talk like that is drown out the positive support others are trying to show me. What's wrong with you people? Is it that hard to treat a person with common decency and respect? You're just illustrating my points for me, really. All the negative comments you people are making are completely overshadowing the positive ones others are making. I haven't rejected anything but the bullying and the "tough love" responses. I can't and won't take that crap. Again, if you can't be nice, just go away.

subtlebutterfly -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 3:06:40 PM)
Honestly, I think most people want to treat you with respect. However the way you express yourself - and no offense but the drama queen shines through your posts, it isn't going to get you anywhere. People have offered you great advice, the positive ones you take but refuse to take advice when people are pointing out to you something that you might need to work on, it's as if you're perfect and refuse to let anyone tell you otherwise. My advice to you is: don't ask for advices "in public" if you don't want to receive ALL sides of the dice, because you sure are going to get them. I honestly think being a transsexual is least of your problems right now, like many have said. Go and seek out counseling or some kind of guidance you do seem to need it.

aravain -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 3:08:35 PM)
~FR~ You're not being perfectly reasonable. You're tossing your hands in the air and saying "It's not fair, it's not fair, mommy! It's not fair!" Trust me. I've seen it, I've done it. (this next part has an applicable point, I promise you, it's just long in the making) There was a time when I was terribly, horribly, and utterly sure that I would never have ANYONE because I was gay... and I weigh over 300lbs. Despite being 6'7" that is still much larger than normal, and not what a majority of gay men seem to be interested. I met with rejection. A LOT of rejection. And they would tell me that it was because I'm fat. Because I'm ugly. Because I was gross for not 'fixing' myself (it doesn't work that way, FYI). I wasn't accepted as a possible mate because of a physical defect (to use your own word). Guess what? I met someone who didn't care. He liked it, in fact, loved my body for my body's features, though I didn't. I've met others who feel the same way. I'm still going to "fix" my "defect." I'm losing weight (really easily), and eventually I'll be smaller. You know those same people? They're going to reject me once it's fixed. I'll be the exact same person, but they're going to reject me entirely for physical reasons. In one case (were there sparks still there) it might not matter because of the love created before the change, but in all others... rejection. What's changed? Why would they reject me? I'm still the same person! You CANNOT sever past and present. MissDominae is right in saying that the current channels of achieving a full transition, and your lack of sticking to them, is likely the cause of this depression. I'd go so far as to say it's caused the rejection from both friends and potential partners. You attempted to sever your past "self" (this female with physical and chemical defects) from your current "self" (Lindsey) in an abrupt manner, in a way that, to anyone but yourself, is SHOCKING and extreme! There's a reason it's called a TRANSITION and not a change! Your friends did not lie to you when they said that it was OK, that they accepted you. They were adversely affected by your sudden change when they expected a transition, I'd bet. When I came out to my parents (this last time, that is... it's happened 4 times, but that's a long story) I was met by rejection, and being pushed away. I had a boyfriend who I'd been dating for several months, which is not something they were used to. I refused to 'keep my options open' to women. They rejected me. This was 4 years ago or so. Now? My mother and I are CLOSER than we were before (which was pretty damned close already). My father and I actually talk more than we used to, including about partners and dating. Here's where I take a point made in my last post and expound upon it. Those other people ARE people. Your friends (or ex-friends, or whatever you want to call them) need (and deserve) the benefit of the doubt here. You mentioned that they were friends with your previous self, not with Lindsey. That's the perfect way to say it. The process of transition would mean that they were friends with BOTH your past self, AND Lindsey. Without that transition you're basically asking them to take an established friendship and apply it to a stranger. They knew you (to quote the cliche) as "a woman trapped in a man's body", NOT as Lindsey, the woman. Am I making sense? Or just rambling at this point... I dunno. In either case, don't sell yourself short, but don't sell others short either. While what you did for yourself may have been perfectly reasonable and the 'right' thing to do... for other people it's extreme. For those without gender or body dysmorphia, they'll never understand fully, so you need to be patient with them. If you can't be patient with them, then you need to not associate with them. Lonely, I know, but it's the blatent truth (as non-tough-loved as I could make it). EDIT: And sorry to be rude, but if you don't want the answer to the question asked in the title (which you don't seem to by your rejection of those pointing out possible reasons), then why ask it? EDIT 2: To not put words in MissDominae's mouth, sorry!

DreamGoddess666 -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/23/2009 3:13:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly Honestly, I think most people want to treat you with respect. However the way you express yourself - and no offense but the drama queen shines through your posts, it isn't going to get you anywhere. People have offered you great advice, the positive ones you take but refuse to take advice when people are pointing out to you something that you might need to work on, it's as if you're perfect and refuse to let anyone tell you otherwise. My advice to you is: don't ask for advices "in public" if you don't want to receive ALL sides of the dice, because you sure are going to get them. I honestly think being a transsexual is least of your problems right now, like many have said. Go and seek out counseling or some kind of guidance you do seem to need it. I have tried to take the positive advice. Then I come back and see the positive stuff followed up by other people who are being harsh, and it just negates the good that the positive did. You act like I'm not seeing a shrink or something. I have an appointment in early July, the EARLIEST I COULD GET ONE. I know I have other problems. That's not what I came here to talk about! I came here to talk about how I keep getting blown off by lesbians who keeping telling me I'm not a real woman. NO ONE has the right to tell me I'm not a real woman, and to be honest, I'd get violent with anyone who suggested such a thing to my face because I've fought long and hard to get to where I am and I'll be damned if I accept or respect ANYONE who tells me otherwise. I was picked on all my life growing up for being different. Even my family put me down constantly. That kinda stuff does a lot of damage to a person. What I need is not more of the same crap. What I need is positive emotional support. What I need to find is hope, hope that maybe people can still be nice and good instead of cruel and judgmental. Am I looking in the wrong place for that positive emotional support and hope?

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