Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: when does a mistress go to far?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: when does a mistress go to far? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 9:28:40 AM   
BitaTruble


Posts: 9779
Joined: 1/12/2006
From: Texas
Status: offline
quote:

And one final question. If the OP had been female, do you think your response to the described situation would have been different?


My response would have been exactly the same. It's about personal responsiblity and being aware of what you are getting into before you get into it. Being female doesn't mean you get a free ride and don't have to engage your brains.

Oh, and Knight, next time you are gagged and can't 'say' a safeword, have a little bell in your hand that you can ring, or a soft ball that you can throw or drop. There are plenty of ways to communicate that don't involve sound.

I do hope you don't let this one experience sour you on BDSM. You had a bad scene but you lived through it. Allow yourself to learn from it to ensure it doesn't happen again. If you find that you just can't cope with it, there's no shame in talking to a pro ::as in therapy:: to help you through things.

Best of luck to you,

Celeste



_____________________________

"Oh, so it's just like
Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


(in reply to thetammyjo)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 10:32:40 AM   
SimplyV


Posts: 351
Joined: 11/5/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyV
I think she was horribly lacking in judgment and in her skills of aftercare and helping her subs understand what it is they're feeling. There are a lot of heady emotions that happen when you first start playing in BDSM. Many of which feel like love and can make a sub want to dive in full throttle without thinking. His Mistress should have known better.

I think everyone should have known better. I haven't heard anything about bad or selfish motivations yet, she obviously took him at his word as an adult that this activity was ok and frankly saying that you can't safe word is a cop-out.

I can respect the perspective that TammyJo put forth- freezing up in the face of dangerous situations, but suggesting that you can't communicate "This is wrong, we need to stop now" because you can't verbally speak is a cop out.

I agree to chalking it up to a life lesson for all sides. If he truly feels he was violated, he should discuss it in therapy. And obviously he should not get involved with anyone else until he really understands what he's agreeing to.


Maybe I'm too close to this situation. Knowing his past (which his mistress knew as well) of prior occurances of sexual abuse from men, I would have approached any homosexual experence with a lot of caution with him.

And yes.. I agree that he may have frozen. Being tied up and gagged is daunting enough, let alone introducing two people you've barely met before.

The "safeword" comment about it being a cop-out. Yes.. YOU and I.. and any good Mistress worth her salt.. knows how to safeword with a gag on. This clearly wasn't explained to him.

Like I said, he's new. He first was introduced to BDSM by my sub (a good friend of his) and our BDSM relationship which started back in Sept. He then met her in Dec. He was embarassed to tell us he was in a BDSM relationship til the middle of January. A few days later, he's collared on 1-28, then the session in question on 2-4.

Maybe you can answer me this question.. If you were the Domme in question.. Knowing how new he was. Knowing his past abuse history. Questioning two days earlier, if he really understood a collar. Would you have done what she did, when she did it?

As for her motivations? Who knows. Those could have been anything. For me, that this even happened so fast so soon, and with as little education and explanation to him, gives me all sorts of reasons to accuse her of bad and selfish motivations.

(in reply to LuckyAlbatross)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 11:17:18 AM   
MistressOfGa


Posts: 2929
Status: offline
Maybe I'm too close to this situation. Knowing his past (which his mistress knew as well) of prior occurances of sexual abuse from men, I would have approached any homosexual experence with a lot of caution with him.

Now this is a bit of information that was lacking in the OP. NOW this makes more sense.

Question: Since he has been sexually abused by other men, why would he want to "dom and screw" them?


_____________________________





(in reply to SimplyV)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 11:43:33 AM   
thetammyjo


Posts: 6322
Joined: 9/8/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

Maybe I'm too close to this situation. Knowing his past (which his mistress knew as well) of prior occurances of sexual abuse from men, I would have approached any homosexual experence with a lot of caution with him.

Now this is a bit of information that was lacking in the OP. NOW this makes more sense.

Question: Since he has been sexually abused by other men, why would he want to "dom and screw" them?



It be a lot of reasons none of which I think truly matter in terms of what happened to him.

I mean, would we ask this same question of a woman who is a survivor but wants to "dom and screw" men but is currently in a submissive position and tells her mistress this?

Some people use BDSM as a way to cope with their pasts -- many of us might not think this is a good idea but I have met people who use BDSM as therapy or a way to work out feelings. Perhaps his expression wasn't about a scene but about these left over feelings.

Does not sound to me like this woman who was his "mistress" did a very good job in getting to know him, evaluate him, and educate him or she wouldn't have done any of the things he described in the original post. In my opinion she had the responsiblity to slow things down for the newbie not to "teach him a lesson" as has been stated and implied in other posts.

I see nothing in the OP that excuses what the female dominant did.

< Message edited by thetammyjo -- 2/9/2006 11:46:28 AM >


_____________________________

Love, Peace, Hugs, Kisses, Whips & Chains,

TammyJo

Check out my website at http://www.thetammyjo.com Or www.tammyjoeckhart.com

And my LJ where I post fiction in progress if you "friend" me at http://thetammyjo.livejournal.com/

(in reply to MistressOfGa)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 11:49:50 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


Posts: 19224
Joined: 10/25/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo
In my opinion she had the responsiblity to slow things down for the newbie not to "teach him a lesson" as has been stated and implied in other posts.

I see nothing in the OP that excuses what the female dominant did.

But I don't know that there's anything to excuse. Do I think it's the good and ethical thing to do to ponder the consequences of our actions on anothers future well being? Yes. But we ARE adults here, we must take responsibility for our actions.

I can see how he would feel violated, I can see how he would feel as if he had no way to stop what was being done, even if he knew it was wrong. Someone FEELING violated does not automatically mean someone else is responsible FOR a violation.

_____________________________

Find stable partners, not a stable of partners.

"Sometimes my whore logic gets all fuzzy"- Californication

(in reply to thetammyjo)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 1:35:09 PM   
MistressSassy66


Posts: 1675
Joined: 11/5/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Knight2be

i am new to bdsm, and have little experence. i was a straight male i was collared 1-28-06 we had met on 12-01-05 she is very mainstream. i was refered to her as her slave latly i have been wanting to experence how a man feels. i wanted to dom a guy basicly she does have 2 other male slaves i make the 3rd. but i never saw them only in passing well she told me that she would offer them up, for me to dom and screw. anyhow she told me id have to pay the price and submit to something of her choosing on saturday i was at her house and i entered she did her normal thing and i found myself bound and gagged on my back i was played with and got very hard then her subs hopped on me 1 by 1 and engaged in oral sex in other words they rode me was unable to move or say no they both got off on me several times while i lay there when it was over with i kept my cool until i was in a safe spot where i could exit without harm and broke it off.




I'm curious if you have not only a safe word but gesture aswell?
If so you should have used it as soon as you felt uncomfortable.,made up an excuse you were feeling sick and left.

I do feel badly that you had to under go such a thing and I'm disappointed that some Dom/mes do go to far...but you are ultimately responsible for yourself.
If playing without a safety word/gesture you are breaking one of the most important rules.The very first thing you should learn is how to be Safe.

_____________________________

Mistress Sassy

http://www.mistresssassy.com

In the Immortal Words of Bob....Fuck the dumb shit.

"I love you not only for what you are,But for what I am when I'm with you."- Opening line from a poem by Roy Croft

(in reply to Knight2be)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 4:44:05 PM   
EvilGeoff


Posts: 523
Joined: 8/24/2005
Status: offline
I've got questions about what happened, but dayum, I can't think of a way to ask them that doesn't sound like I'm trying to rake Knight over the coals. That's not my intention, but it comes from having been a cop for 17 years and wanting to get the facts of an incident correct and in sequence I guess.

But I'm no longer a cop, it isn't my case to investigate. So I'll leave the questions un- asked.

Knight, if you feel like you were, in fact, raped, report it to the proper authorities. If you do nothing else, contact your local rape crisis center, get tested for possible STD's, and get some counselling. In light of past abuse, this kind of emotional trauma should be treated by professionals, not a bunch of amateurs, no matter how kind-hearted, experienced or well-intentioned we may be.

YIK,
- Geoff

(in reply to Knight2be)
Profile   Post #: 47
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/9/2006 11:46:13 PM   
NeedToUseYou


Posts: 2297
Joined: 12/24/2005
From: None of your business
Status: offline
Hmmm, I'm a little taken aback by some of the posts here. Okay granted the OP was naive, and admittedly inexperienced. The Domme knew that, and still neglected to teach him anyway of communicating without a safe word. My view is if your going to be a Dom, Domme, you are the one with a greater responsibility than the sub. Because you are making decisions for them. This Domme knew he had been abused by men, then had him gangbanged by two men? This Domme knew he didn't know what being collared meant, yet didn't teach him anything at all, and took him as slave. My view this Domme, if the OP is telling the full story, belongs in jail. Really call your local Police department, and see how well, the dommes arguments stand up.

So, I guess some believe a domme, can just accept a new slave, and not make sure they understand what position they are taking, then take one of the most dramatic experiences in there past and inflict it upon them within a couple weeks. Gag them when the only thing that's been explained is a safe word. Oh on top of it, not even gone over the hard limits a person has might be. Yeah, that's a good domme. If this was a man doing this to a woman, he'd be in jail for rape.

hmmm, okay.

And someone brought up that just because a guy wants to fuck a guy, means he should be willing to be fucked. That is absurd, and completely off-base. So, if I like my balls kicked by guys, I should assume they'll want theres kicked as well. If I like to be choked during sex, that means my parnter must be choked? If a slave likes to lick a Dommes pussy, does that mean the Domme must suck his dick. No, is the answer to all those one sided non-sexually equal relationships. Wanting to fuck a guy, doesn't mean you want to be fucked. If that's the logic, well, all the dommes or doms on here, are due for a few years of pain and submission.

Line up, no lube for you.

(in reply to Knight2be)
Profile   Post #: 48
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 12:39:52 AM   
LATEXBABY64


Posts: 2107
Joined: 4/8/2004
Status: offline
i look at things like this the domme was trippin she is to power and thats it as far as bonding well alot need to understand what that means shrugs i feel bad you have went through this i hope the next domme you come across sees the value of you not as an object but a person.. after twenty years in the lifestyle this one of the reasons i have taken a break waiting for the lifestyle to grow up and start respecting us as people maybe that will never happen shrugs i wish you well in your journey

(in reply to NeedToUseYou)
Profile   Post #: 49
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 4:40:37 AM   
mons


Posts: 2400
Joined: 11/16/2005
Status: offline
i do not think he should go near this domme ever again! not to ask anything what she did was rape him! why in the world would he ask her anything! what is the point " oh tell me why you raped me" hell if he was not so shock i think he could had call the poilce on her. not domme has the right to so this to anyone person male or female she has put a very horrible name on aall dommes! i so sadden and sick by what she did when she tied him down she know that he under anyother time would not want males to do this to him. she vbroke the bounds of being a ggod domme to protect and train, this was no train session nor was it a pleasurealbe thing for him. so what so you say he should go and ask her from what i read he left and broke it off it i am not mistaken. rape is rape i think if this had been a male dom who did this to a female we would all be up in arms and scream what in the hell is wrong with that crazy who, so what do we nneed to tel him go and ask her i would not be surpise is he punch her out that was the must violent way to take a person and hurt him emotionally and mentally no he has not a damn thing ask her. would you tell a woman who was ganged raped tp go back and ask the rapeist " oh why did you do this to me " that is silly dumb and damn crazy. now i know another male submissve who was interested in learning more about the bdsm lifesltye well he went with a domme for sometime , now mine you he thought she too was ok and training him!one day he trusted her, she tight him to a bed and he thought like many of the new ones do that she would have a play session. well it was a nightmare for him this woman tied him do tight he could not move then he knew sometime was wrong she raped him with very large dildo and beat so badly he was marked i can tell you this gentle man was beaten raped for over 3 hours and when he was let up he was so beaten emotionlly that to this day he is scare to death of trsting another domme he told me this and i flet to bad so bad it remind me of my own sister raped. and he was not small man he was 6'3. i am now working with him to bring his trust back for dommes me i am taking it so slow for him. raped is raped by a woman holding a dildo or by other men , i seen some of the post i am shamed this is no joke RAPED GANG RAPED THIS IS WHAT IT IS
i am shock you said to ask her why? if you never seen a victim of raped you would never ever say this to them. i am glad he wrote to let others know this happen to many of the submissve men, the shame of it is not told. i am glad you came forward and not every domme is like this

i wish you well and hope please take care this will be a long healing for you but you will be okay

mons

(in reply to Jasmyn)
Profile   Post #: 50
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 4:55:54 AM   
mons


Posts: 2400
Joined: 11/16/2005
Status: offline
ga

a hot experince what in the world are you thinking . now what if you went somewhere to have hot time and then oh yeah it turn out to be a lesson for you and we as domme see outrsevle as strong but we are still women now this hot time was 5 men waiting for you they tie you up and raped you what would oyou thinK? REALLY WHAT WOULD YOU DO, ON THIS GUY WAS GANGED RAPED BUT IT WAS A HOT TIME MMMMMM WOW THAT IS CRAZY SO CRAZY I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU REMEMBER RAPE CAN HAPPEN AT ANYTIME TO ANYONE THIS WAS A CRIME TO A HUMAN HE WAS NEW AND DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING WHAT MAKE IS OK FOR HIM TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN AND IT BECOMES A HOT TIME? BUT IF IT WERE A WOMAN OH NO IT IS STILL THE SAME AND WHERE HE WAS RAPED IS NOT A MORAML PLACE FOR ANYTHING TO GO IN SO IT WAS EQUALY HARD ON HIM SHE SHOULD BE LOCK UNDER THE JAIL I HOPE HE REPORTS HER AND THE MAN SHE HAS. A DOMME IS NOT A PERSON WHO CAN JUST SAY I AM A DOMME I HAVE THIS POWER SO I CAN JUST HAVE DO DUMBASS SLAVE WHO FOLLLOW MY EVERY WORD GO AROUND AND RAPED MEN AND OH YES THIS IS NOT HER FIRST TIME DOING THIS TO SOMEONE! JUST LIKE CHILD MOSLTER THIS IS NOT HER FIRST VICTIM TRUST ME

THIS IS SO BAD IT NOT A JOKE THE LESSON WAS NOT TO BE RAPED

MONS

(in reply to MistressDREAD)
Profile   Post #: 51
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 5:14:50 AM   
Jasmyn


Posts: 1234
Joined: 2/6/2004
From: New Zealand
Status: offline
With further information coming to light I am happy to change my stance but based on the original post my previous observations stand.

_____________________________

quote:

"To learn the art of submission a slave must first give up the desires that drew him to submission in the first place." Mistress Jasmyn Jan 2005.


Visit My Website


(in reply to mons)
Profile   Post #: 52
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 7:40:28 AM   
MistressOfGa


Posts: 2929
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: mons

ga

a hot experince what in the world are you thinking .

I am thinking that the OP did NOT give all the information at the time that I wrote that. I did NOT know he had been sexually abused by men in the past. Based on just his original post, I didnt see what he was complaining about. This IS bdsm. He DID ask his Mistress if he could dom and screw her male slaves. She said yes, but he would have to pay a price. I thought that the price that he was paying was that of having her slaves get off on him first.


now what if you went somewhere to have hot time and then oh yeah it turn out to be a lesson for you and we as domme see outrsevle as strong but we are still women now this hot time was 5 men waiting for you they tie you up and raped you what would oyou thinK?

I would be thinking that this is my Mistress, I trust her to know what is best for me and here is the price that she spoke of, for me to have the opportunity to dom and screw her other slaves.

REALLY WHAT WOULD YOU DO, ON THIS GUY WAS GANGED RAPED BUT IT WAS A HOT TIME MMMMMM WOW THAT IS CRAZY SO CRAZY I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU REMEMBER RAPE CAN HAPPEN AT ANYTIME TO ANYONE THIS WAS A CRIME TO A HUMAN HE WAS NEW AND DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING WHAT MAKE IS OK FOR HIM TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN AND IT BECOMES A HOT TIME?

Hmmm..I dont see any reason for you to start "screaming" at me. Of course I dont think that rape is a joke. I didnt see "rape" in the original post, I saw a "price" that he was willing to endure for the opportunity to dom and screw the other male slaves.



BUT IF IT WERE A WOMAN OH NO IT IS STILL THE SAME AND WHERE HE WAS RAPED IS NOT A MORAML PLACE FOR ANYTHING TO GO IN SO IT WAS EQUALY HARD ON HIM SHE SHOULD BE LOCK UNDER THE JAIL I HOPE HE REPORTS HER AND THE MAN SHE HAS.


Again, I must point out that according to some, this is common practice during a session. I originally posted based on his origianl comments. It has just now been known that he was sexually abused in the past by men.




A DOMME IS NOT A PERSON WHO CAN JUST SAY I AM A DOMME I HAVE THIS POWER SO I CAN JUST HAVE DO DUMBASS SLAVE WHO FOLLLOW MY EVERY WORD GO AROUND AND RAPED MEN AND OH YES THIS IS NOT HER FIRST TIME DOING THIS TO SOMEONE! JUST LIKE CHILD MOSLTER THIS IS NOT HER FIRST VICTIM TRUST ME


Actually a "Domme" as you put it, DOES have the power to do what she wants to with her own slave. As long as it is consentual. He did not mention that it was NOT consentual in his original post. He stated that he said and did nothing til it was over. As far as it not being her first time, I dont know this. I dont know her.
I dont see her "slave" as a victim. Granted he didnt do his homework and find out more about bdsm before he got involved with a dominant, but a victim? No. He is a misguided man who should have learned more about what he was getting into BEFORE he got into it.



THIS IS SO BAD IT NOT A JOKE THE LESSON WAS NOT TO BE RAPED


I never saw it as a "lesson". I saw it as the price that he agreed to pay for the pleasure of dominating her other male slaves. I saw his silence, not using a safe word, or using hand signals, or dropping a ball, or ANY form of communication as his consent to "pay the price". I didnt see it as rape, and I will still say, based on his OP, it sounded like a "hot time". In a vanilla world? No, but in the BDSM world, absolutely.

My opinions are my own. Just as yours are yours. You screaming at me will not change how I think. You have your opinon, I have mine.



_____________________________





(in reply to mons)
Profile   Post #: 53
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 7:41:29 AM   
MistressOfGa


Posts: 2929
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

With further information coming to light I am happy to change my stance but based on the original post my previous observations stand.


Exactly. I agree.

_____________________________





(in reply to Jasmyn)
Profile   Post #: 54
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 7:44:15 AM   
thetammyjo


Posts: 6322
Joined: 9/8/2005
Status: offline
mons has been expressing the same feelings I've been having with a lot of the responses to the OP.

My slave and I were talking about it last night and he just shook his head then took me into his arms and said "This is part of why I love you, Mistress". I didn't ask for clarification on the "part" cause it just helped calm me down.



_____________________________

Love, Peace, Hugs, Kisses, Whips & Chains,

TammyJo

Check out my website at http://www.thetammyjo.com Or www.tammyjoeckhart.com

And my LJ where I post fiction in progress if you "friend" me at http://thetammyjo.livejournal.com/

(in reply to mons)
Profile   Post #: 55
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 1:57:50 PM   
LadiesBladewing


Posts: 944
Joined: 8/31/2005
Status: offline
It sounds to me like what she asked of you was basically a taste of what you were in a position to ask as the top for one of her other slaves. In many training environments in the lifestyle, this would be a completely appropriate requirement... "you want to dominate one of my other boys?... well, first you get to experience what it is to submit at the hands of the boys you might eventually top."

I will concede that it may not have been the right thing for you... but the time to mention that would have been -then-, to her -face-, not behind her back days later. I would expect my own servants to -tell- me if something wasn't working for them. They are often expected to do things that they haven't done before, and things that they may not have thought about doing (or did think about doing, but discover during the doing that the things aren't nearly as pleasant as they imagined them to be), and the only way to know how they're handling the education is for them to -talk-.

The fact that you cut and run, without even discussing what happened, doesn't speak well for the the viability of this relationship, so it is probably well that you removed yourself. However, I am not completely convinced that the domina in question acted in a manner that was inappropriate to the situation.

Lady Zephyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: Knight2be

i am new to bdsm, and have little experence. i was a straight male i was collared 1-28-06 we had met on 12-01-05 she is very mainstream. i was refered to her as her slave latly i have been wanting to experence how a man feels. i wanted to dom a guy basicly she does have 2 other male slaves i make the 3rd. but i never saw them only in passing well she told me that she would offer them up, for me to dom and screw. anyhow she told me id have to pay the price and submit to something of her choosing on saturday i was at her house and i entered she did her normal thing and i found myself bound and gagged on my back i was played with and got very hard then her subs hopped on me 1 by 1 and engaged in oral sex in other words they rode me was unable to move or say no they both got off on me several times while i lay there when it was over with i kept my cool until i was in a safe spot where i could exit without harm and broke it off.



_____________________________


"Should have", "could have", "would have" and "can't" may be the most dangerous phrases in the English language.

Bladewing Enclave

(in reply to Knight2be)
Profile   Post #: 56
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 2:22:28 PM   
SimplyV


Posts: 351
Joined: 11/5/2005
Status: offline
Personally, I'd like to thank you all for your different perspectives on this issue. I know it has helped Knight2be to see others points of view and helped him understand better exactly what happened to him, and how to keep it from happening again.

For those of you upset about his lack of "coming forth" with information in his first post, I think he was trying to figure out for himself.. if it was rape or if he'd screwed up. Like all rape victims question whether or not they asked for it. They doubt themselves. They blame themselves.

I agree with Mons on what actually happened, and no I don't think this was her first time doing this.

After it happened and he left her. Her other two slaves showed up at his door and "appologized" for their parts in it. They, of course, didn't know he wasn't agreeing to it. And they left her, as they don't agree with rape.

For me this was a huge red flag. I didn't want him having anything to do with her other boys. I didn't trust them. Any sub/slave who has been with their Mistress for any length of time, trusts that Mistress implicitly or should. So if a newbie suddenly accused the Mistress of rape.. The other slaves would side with the Mistress, and take the Mistress' word that it was a misunderstanding.

They told him that they were staying at a motel and wanted his help. They wanted to move in with him and be with him. Another red flag. Either that Mistress is .. truely evil.. so much so that these two slaves of hers latch onto the newbie sub they barely met and want to follow him to the ends of the earth, or something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

The last visit he got from one of her slaves... the slave showed up and showed him whip marks of where the Mistress had beat him. Knight2be called the police and a report was made, but the slave wouldn't press charges. Can you say red flag?

The next morning Knight2be drove by the Mistress' house (out of curiousity I suppose) and saw.. the same slave in the front window of her house.

Its my personal opinion that this isn't the first time this has happened. That they all were in on it. Then after wards the slaves tried to befriend Knight2be to keep him from pressing charges and getting them in trouble.

I agree that Knight2be should press charges. But I don't think its my right or authority to force him. *sighs* He was the one violated. He's the one that has to live with what happened to him. It's his decision.

(in reply to mons)
Profile   Post #: 57
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 2:33:50 PM   
sting516


Posts: 505
Joined: 9/4/2004
From: long island, ny
Status: offline
While i'll agree that this Domme sounds totally whacked out, i still stand by the fact that it was up to him to find out what the price to pay might entail...it seems like he was all to ready to fall hard and fall fast, and the Domme took advantage of it, which is Her right, if he and She agreed that he was Her slave.

Hopefully, Knight has found a good mentor in You, SimplyV...but in my mind, he still must take responsibility for his part in this.


sting

(in reply to SimplyV)
Profile   Post #: 58
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 3:16:16 PM   
FelinePersuasion


Posts: 4792
Joined: 11/20/2004
Status: offline
Not always self preservation wasn't drilled into me as a child. Sure I was told the normal don't talk to strangers don't let bad men touch your privates but self preservation wasn't drilled into me

quote:

Perhaps being female is some protection, self preservation and safety is drummed into you from a early age.

(in reply to Sirandlittle1)
Profile   Post #: 59
RE: when does a mistress go to far? - 2/10/2006 3:44:34 PM   
SimplyV


Posts: 351
Joined: 11/5/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

Not always self preservation wasn't drilled into me as a child. Sure I was told the normal don't talk to strangers don't let bad men touch your privates but self preservation wasn't drilled into me

quote:

Perhaps being female is some protection, self preservation and safety is drummed into you from a early age.



Ah.. Self-preservation was drilled.. I mean... DRILLED into me at a very early age by my mother. Which doesn't help with the hereditary (unsure of cause, but all my family has it) mild paranoia from my Dad's side.

One of her favorite sayings.. "Don't stay out past 10 or you're just asking to be raped" .. Which became a joke between my best friend and me while we were in college.. "Oops its 10:01pm, where's the guys.. can't they see I'm just asking to be raped." Which looking back.. is probably only funny to us.. since most of the time we were drinking, horny and looking for someone screw.

I don't know many guys who were taught to actively watch shadows at night to make sure they didn't move, or were advised to only park in the lighted areas of the parking lots. Or even were advised, Beware of that girl.. girls are only out for one thing (meaning sex).

Safety should be taught first. But it isn't always so.

(in reply to FelinePersuasion)
Profile   Post #: 60
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: when does a mistress go to far? Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094