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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:41:06 AM   
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Some people may gripe about your "exposing unwilling participants visually to your kink" but it's dynamically no different from many people that would be offended by same sex couples kissing in public.
Being Gay/Lesbian is not the same as having a kink.

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:43:20 AM   
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:51:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Some people may gripe about your "exposing unwilling participants visually to your kink" but it's dynamically no different from many people that would be offended by same sex couples kissing in public.
Being Gay/Lesbian is not the same as having a kink.



I took that to mean that people are equally as shocked by it because its not normal rather than saying orientation is a kink. I may be wrong.

Personally I have had public experience, a smack on the ass or whatever and its never caused me any problems, of course I wouldnt do it in an old peoples home or a park. I am not keen on public displays of affection (ie kissing be that same sex or not) but I learn to deal with it, as I believe the rest of the world should deal with my lifestyle choice.

Gosh I am in a proper snarky mood today, but I dont care

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:51:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't kiss, don't be fat in public, don't be too skinny, don't be gay, don't preach, don't fart, don't show your thong, don't sneeze without covering your mouth, don't talk with your mouth full, don't wear a skirt when your legs look like THAT, don't baggy and expose the top of your whities, don't hug a hippy, don't sing, don't worship, don't try and console a crying child, don't smoke in public spaces, don't laugh, don't and for goodness sake of the children - Don't fucking yank anybodys chain.*dramatic hand to the forehead swoon*.
 
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:53:00 AM   
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:57:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, not all GLBT folks are kinky, but relatively few of them are offended by mild kink happening around them, and there aren't going to be any Ums in a gay bar! Actually, I've been in a couple of environments which were nominally vanilla but lended themselves to kink. We had a Science Fiction convention going on in the same hotel with a Catholic convention recently. Lots of people dressed as animals, or in a corset, collar, and bondage cuffs (sometimes complete with leash), or in Ren Faire garb with a couple of whips tucked into their belt, among the other costumes, on the same elevator as the conservatively dressed Catholic folks. No confrontations as far as I know, everyone just wished each other a nice day. I used to do Renaissance Faire, and they frequently have performers or the general public in the stocks, carry out whippings, and I've helped drag a bunch of guys along in shackles/chains, "selling" them to the other guilds as one of the vignettes. So, I'd suggest either do so in an environment with other people who are doing similar things, or at least in an adult-only environment with people who are likely to be tolerant.


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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 7:59:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: colouredin

methinks the.darkness said it way better than me


Pfft... colouredinone (yagot mail btw) - I am feeling pretty snarked today.  Honestly - if children saw just how bloody ok relationships can be instead of having stupid, ironic people shouting 'don't do it for the sake of the children' crap - you wouldn't get then growing into sad lonely adults who can't maintain healthy stable relationships of ANY kind.  Show them a loving lesbien couple having a snog.  Let them see a happy submissive walking down the road on a leash with a smiling Mistress.  But ohhhhh no... instead they are subjected to divorcing parents, physical violence and hidden pregnancies.
 
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:00:08 AM   
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I really want to yank a slave of mine by his chained collar in public, but should I? The thing I'm concerned about the most are children and the parents of children. I'm not even sure if doing something like this is legal. I live in the gay part of town filled with sex and head shops so I don't think it'll be a big deal. What do you think? Is it a problem?


In light of where you live, I would think there's an abundance of places to go with your slave where others will not only understand what you're doing, but appreciate it. The general public is likely to view your activities as bizarre, possibly even sick and if nothing else, resent that you are inflicting your lifestyle on them.


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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:01:51 AM   
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But ohhhhh no... instead they are subjected to divorcing parents, physical violence and hidden



Duh, thats normal silly


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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:04:00 AM   
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I'm against public play of that form unless done in ways to minimise the public being aware of it. I'm in the camp of the public don't consent and shouldn't have to witness it.
You can take a slave out on a collar and leash quite discreetly, just slide it donw there sleeve (long) and hold the end. You can yank to your hearts content then, people will just think your slaves having some kind of fit lol.

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:06:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Honestly - if children saw just how bloody ok relationships can be instead of having stupid, ironic people shouting 'don't do it for the sake of the children' crap - you wouldn't get then growing into sad lonely adults who can't maintain healthy stable relationships of ANY kind.  Show them a loving lesbien couple having a snog.  Let them see a happy submissive walking down the road on a leash with a smiling Mistress.  But ohhhhh no... instead they are subjected to divorcing parents, physical violence and hidden pregnancies.
 
the.dark.


Amen sister! All but one of the hetero people I know have at least one divorce under their belt, and their kids have more baggage to grow up with than could ever be fair. Compare that with us, who've been together 13 years and become infinitely closer thru SM, or the lesbian couple I know who've just celebrated their 19th anniversary...

Fuckemall I say.

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:10:08 AM   
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And my mind won't ever be changed either.  Consent is a bullshit term.
 
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:11:12 AM   
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Amen sister! All but one of the hetero people I know have at least one divorce under their belt, and their kids have more baggage to grow up with than could ever be fair. Compare that with us, who've been together 13 years and become infinitely closer thru SM, or the lesbian couple I know who've just celebrated their 19th anniversary...

Fuckemall I say.


*Passes you a fucking medal*
My parents have been married nearly 50 years, my aunt and uncle 40 years in august. I know loads of hetero people who have been married for many many years. Divorce happens in every walk of life. A successful happy relationship in bdsm doesn't give you the right to piss people off or offend them by making them witness to stuff they don't consent to.

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:12:54 AM   
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I'm in the camp of the public don't consent and shouldn't have to witness it.


I am going to wait around for the day that someone asks my consent for littering, spitting on the street, having a domestic in the pub, wolf whistling at me etc etc when that happens then i will start giving a s*it

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:13:14 AM   
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That is if it is about play.  Sometimes a collar and leash isn't play.  Sometimes a woman wearing a short skirt is just flirting and play.  So then, they shouldn't wear one of course.
 
And my mind won't ever be changed either.  Consent is a bullshit term.
 
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Mwah - i luff you
We always disagree on this one lol.
Wouldn't do if we were all the same and thought the same though would it

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:16:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: colouredin


quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
I'm in the camp of the public don't consent and shouldn't have to witness it.


I am going to wait around for the day that someone asks my consent for littering, spitting on the street, having a domestic in the pub, wolf whistling at me etc etc when that happens then i will start giving a s*it

(Hiya btw Missy, hope you are well hun)



Hey hun, i'm good thanks
I'm with you on that, i don't like spitting, littering and anyone i see doing it gets it full barrel from me.
I'm not saying don't take your slave out on a leash, if you wanna do it, do it. Just be prepared if you come across me and i have um's or my parents with me i'm not going to take very lightly to it.

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:21:33 AM   
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*Passes you a fucking medal*
My parents have been married nearly 50 years, my aunt and uncle 40 years in august. I know loads of hetero people who have been married for many many years. Divorce happens in every walk of life.


With a divorce rate over 50%, they're the minority. All power to 'em. My parents have been together over 40 years and hate each other.My in-laws have been together 30 years and are self-destructing. There's more bad and broken relationships than happy ones out there. Whatever makes it work for the happy ones, kudos to 'em. That was the point I was making. We were happy together for 9 years before I collared her. We just happen to be closer now.

Trust me, elitist, I certainly am NOT.

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A successful happy relationship in bdsm doesn't give you the right to piss people off or offend them by making them witness to stuff they don't consent to.


Never have, never will. I have a head on My shoulders and use it. I expect the same from others. I rarely get it. *meh*

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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:23:10 AM   
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Amen sister! All but one of the hetero people I know have at least one divorce under their belt, and their kids have more baggage to grow up with than could ever be fair. Compare that with us, who've been together 13 years and become infinitely closer thru SM, or the lesbian couple I know who've just celebrated their 19th anniversary...

Fuckemall I say.


*Passes you a fucking medal*
My parents have been married nearly 50 years, my aunt and uncle 40 years in august. I know loads of hetero people who have been married for many many years. Divorce happens in every walk of life. A successful happy relationship in bdsm doesn't give you the right to piss people off or offend them by making them witness to stuff they don't consent to.


BDSM relationships don't have the hold on successfullness, but I would damn well prefere to see a happy and smiling Master and slave in public who are laughing and enjoying life, than an unhappy couple looking miserable and making snarky comments to one another in public.
 
If BDSM doesn't have the yumminess on successful relationships, then non bdsm ones don't have the yumminess of being able to have the domain of public settings either.
 
I am sick to the back teeth of some people behaving and acting like BDSM, Ds , Ms relationships are wrong, dark, nasty, illegal, consensual, sex related and having no right to be NORMAL.  IF BDSM is just play to you, great!  If it's just sex - brillant!  But don't fucking expect me to respect your consensual right to not be subjected to it, when you can't respect me for having a normal relationship that just happens to be MS.
 
And for anyone here smokes or even takes one drink and then gets ion a car and drives and disagrees with me.  Don't get me started.
 
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:25:25 AM   
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Mwah - i luff you
We always disagree on this one lol.
Wouldn't do if we were all the same and thought the same though would it


Heh.  Luff ya too.
I know we never agree on this... it's all cool though.
 
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RE: public humiliation? - 5/29/2009 8:28:38 AM   
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I am sick to the back teeth of some people behaving and acting like BDSM, Ds , Ms relationships are wrong, dark, nasty, illegal, consensual, sex related and having no right to be NORMAL.  IF BDSM is just play to you, great!  If it's just sex - brillant!  But don't fucking expect me to respect your consensual right to not be subjected to it, when you can't respect me for having a normal relationship that just happens to be MS.

 
I'm not asking you to respect my position and there's the difference. respect is earnt and whilst i respect you in most aspects this is one area you know i will never agree with you nor respect you for.
If you don't like that, then thats fine but don't talk to me about fucking respect when you show none yourself in your shitty reply.

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