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my profession includes involving myself in other people's problems

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what on earth do you consider to be a "soft drug"?

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ORIGINAL: antipode

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my profession includes involving myself in other people's problems

That is a bad excuse for sticking your nose where it does not belong. Whether you approve or not, outside your professional expertise, everybody has a right to make wrong choices. Not calling them on it, hard though that may be, is called respect.

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My senior editor (in Amsterdam) once lectured me on that, when I was about to fire a secretary who had told me she was doing coke, and she was getting the coke from an in-building dealer, and she would not tell me who it was.

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If you are using the standards of your profession to judge (JUDGE) people who have in no way subjected themselves to your ministrations, you should re-examine your interpretation of your societal responsibilities.

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isn't that better than saying nothing and allowing the bad situation to continue?

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom
I don't edge play, but I do support other's privileges of playing how they want, as long as it's in private, in their own homes or other private location, and not a club where the club could get shut down.

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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

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isn't that better than saying nothing and allowing the bad situation to continue?

haha, yeah, but how many times have you found that calling some one out on their addictions have actually gotten results





"You're a coke addict!"
"oh really, I didn't know that, I thought the noose bleeds after I snorted that line of chalk was just a coincidence, why thank you kind sir...."

lol

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ORIGINAL: Fitznicely
You've got me bang to rights. I admit, I don't have a hell of a lot of respect for someone who uses drugs, meaning coke, heroin, etc and all their deadly derivatives (don't call me on it, I'm not getting into that again, you KNOW what I'm talking about)...whether it be in or out of a scene, recreationally or as a habit. Let's face it, they can't have much respect for themselves.

Yes, that's a sweeping generalisation. I don't apologise for it.

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WOULD you scene on drugs?

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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

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ORIGINAL: Fitznicely
You've got me bang to rights. I admit, I don't have a hell of a lot of respect for someone who uses drugs, meaning coke, heroin, etc and all their deadly derivatives (don't call me on it, I'm not getting into that again, you KNOW what I'm talking about)...whether it be in or out of a scene, recreationally or as a habit. Let's face it, they can't have much respect for themselves.

Yes, that's a sweeping generalisation. I don't apologise for it.

This is what lost me... do complete junkies have self-respect? Probably not. Does someone who smokes a j once a year with his college friends? Or someone who does a line when they're partying but would never think of going to work fucked up?

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There are a lot of shades of gray in the world. Whether or not I condone drug use, I don't understand how enjoying a good high means someone has no self-respect. Which isn't really meant to be a snotty comment- more of I'm curious how that logic even works.

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

I do have a very strong "live and let live" attitude, but fucking yourself up on drugs? Hard limit. I can't stand by and say nothing. It's not a lack of respect that leads me to say something when I know someone's "using". More, it's an overabundance of concern.


I think your concern is genuine but the problem with this statement is that while you may be well meaning in regard to your  hard limit for drugs, your next door neighbor may have a well meaning hard limit for men who beat woman, and doesn't differentiate BDSM from abuse, and his neighbor may have a hard limit for people who play loud music and so on and so on.

Sometimes people act in unacceptable ways that affect others around them and good people do get involved and limits are enforced, but I think it is best to  take each situation as it comes and try not to make blanket judgments, because in the end, what sane consenting adults do behind closed doors is really none of your concern at all.

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ORIGINAL: antipode

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my profession includes involving myself in other people's problems

That is a bad excuse for sticking your nose where it does not belong. Whether you approve or not, outside your professional expertise, everybody has a right to make wrong choices. Not calling them on it, hard though that may be, is called respect. My senior editor (in Amsterdam) once lectured me on that, when I was about to fire a secretary who had told me she was doing coke, and she was getting the coke from an in-building dealer, and she would not tell me who it was.



If you are using the standards of your profession to judge (JUDGE) people who have in no way subjected themselves to your ministrations, you should re-examine your interpretation of your societal responsibilities.

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone

I do have a very strong "live and let live" attitude, but fucking yourself up on drugs? Hard limit. I can't stand by and say nothing. It's not a lack of respect that leads me to say something when I know someone's "using". More, it's an overabundance of concern.


I think your concern is genuine but the problem with this statement is that while you may be well meaning in regard to your hard limit for drugs, your next door neighbor may have a well meaning hard limit for men who beat woman, and doesn't differentiate BDSM from abuse, and his neighbor may have a hard limit for people who play loud music and so on and so on.

Sometimes people act in unacceptable ways that affect others around them and good people do get involved and limits are enforced, but I think it is best to take each situation as it comes and try not to make blanket judgments, because in the end, what sane consenting adults do behind closed doors is really none of your concern at all.



Granted.

If, however, they offer their actions up for public appraisal, as with a posting on a message board, opinions will be voiced. In the case of my concern for people who edge play or RACK play while high on something serious, I can't help feeling that, if they're asking for help or advice, then they should be ready to hear it, and open to changing themselves on the basis of what they've heard, however frank and unwelcome it may be.

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but won't have anything to do with meth (or other "hard" drugs)  because they're basically poison.