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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine
i believe that using ANY substances that are purely recreational during sceneplay is courting disaster. These substances alter thought processes and moods and are not conducive to a situation where clear thoughts and perceptions are necessary.
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See, I can understand this as a personal limit, but not as a blanket statement meant to be applied to everyone. I don't know how the author meant it, but just saying that, if it is given as a blanket statement, I have a problem. The problem with this statement as a blanket statement is that it -presumes- that the individuals involved want "clear thoughts and perceptions". There are a LOT of sceneplay situations that can be enhanced with less than clear thoughts and altered perceptions. Hell, good sceneplay -itself- muddies thoughts and alters perceptions (don't believe me -- search "subspace", "domspace", "topspace", etc.).
I don't think people can make a blanket statement about whether or not substance use during sceneplay is appropriate. There are -far- too many factors involved. How -much- substance? What substance(s)? How functional are the parties? What kind of play is being done (ie., roleplay, light flogging, cutting, branding, fisting, suspension without skin penetration, suspension -with- skin penetration, sounding, watersports, vampiric....)? Have the players indicated any prior preference or requirement regarding starting state (hard limits around altered perceptions)? Does the venue have requirements about use of substances during play? Have any precautions been taken to adjust to altered perceptions? Is everyone involved on-board with what's happening (which includes others using the space if it is a public scene)?
For myself, I have boundaries that are in place, frankly, to protect my reputation and the reputation of my House (along with its members). I'm not going to be a stupid idiot and play someone beyond my capabilities, because my reputation is important to me. Frankly, if Sally Subbie or Slavish Steve wants to get trashed off hir respective tush and get branded and fisted... hey, 's all good... but it won't happen with -me-. If someone thinks xhe can consent to playing (on either side of the kneel) while smoked tighter than sockeye salmon on the Saturday Brunch Buffet, and someone -else- is willing to go along with that assessment, especially if they're playing in their own homes and are -seeking- to experience the situation with altered perceptions, go to it. Me... I value my reputation, and also don't want someone coming back later on and saying "How could you let me consent to that when you -know- I don't do that and I was stoned out of my mind?" I don't traffic in regrets -- so I don't play in a way that has a higher-than-average possibility of leaving me or someone else regretting the experience. That doesn't make the experience automatically bad for someone else, or automatically -wrong- for someone else. Adults, frankly, own their own bodies even if they -think- they're slaves, and if they want to give that body away for some rampant experiment in "stupid"... everyone has the right to make hir own choices, and live with hir own mistakes. Start taking that away and it's a slippery slope to -exactly- where we are in the United States, where the Government can arrest grown adults for making choices about how to care for themselves, and we all become pawns in someone else's chess game of OUR lives!
Wow... I got a little riled up this morning, huh?
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