Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics Page: <<   < prev  5 6 [7] 8 9   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 8:27:33 AM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

Barelynangel

Sorry but running for office when you are 21 and its now 12 years later and you are so passionate and negative about a system willing to generalize a group of people whose motive for being is really to help and not harm, won't make the change you complain about.


I don't see this as a viable argument, but I sure do see it a lot of the boards.  The trend seems to be "if you're not doing something to change it, then you have no right to discuss it or complain about it".  I have to disagree with this.  This is a discussion forum, we might talk about things from whether or not cigarettes should be taxed, whether or not fat people should pay more for airline tickets, whether or not slavery should be legal, whether or not some cops suck, or the legal system sucks, and on and on and on.   And most of us are not lobbying to change these things. 

Not everyone is in a position in their lives to fight every cause that they have a strong opinion on.  This whole "if you're not doing something about it, then you have no right to complain" has become a bottom line generic "argument" that strategically puts a person on the defense, and derails the actual topic. 

Seems to me this is a topic about cops who have transgressed, not whether or not slaveboy has run for office.


< Message edited by marie2 -- 6/14/2009 8:31:18 AM >

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 121
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 8:43:57 AM   
blacksword404


Posts: 2068
Joined: 1/4/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Loki45

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lorr47
You ascribed truthfulness to the cops and a penchant for lying to those accused of a crime.  Groan.  Even the cops laugh at that naiveté.


Do we as a society not expect criminals to lie?

Do we as a society not expect cops to tell the truth?

Can each group do something unexpected? Sure. But as we all have been discussing for some time, if a cop lies and it covering up some form of brutality or crime....well I'd say he's not much of a cop. And I bet cops would agree. That would only leave one of those two groups for him to fit into, right?



How many cops have you heard of give themselves a ticket for their own traffic infractions? I have heard of just one. You lead by example not by dictate. You want to be the shinning example, then be it. Fully. A high burden but thats the job you signed up for.

Most cops are good cops but some are not. Too many police use the badge like a credit card to get what they want.

_____________________________

Don't fight him. Embrace your inner asshole.

Tu fellas magnus penum meum...iterum

Genuine catnip/kryptonite.
Ego sum erus.

The capacity to learn is a gift, the ability to learn a skill, the willingness to learn a choice. Dune HH

(in reply to Loki45)
Profile   Post #: 122
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 8:50:23 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		If someone is going to advocate a mindset that puts OTHERS in danger by advocating said mindsets towards a set group of people (i.e., police officers) BECAUSE someone doesn't approve of the SYSTEM  this group of people enforce because its the law for now -- then yeah, to me what they are choosing to do to CHANGE THE SYSTEM -- which is not to me advocating negative and disparaging mindsets generalizing against whole concepts --- i.e. police in general, does matter.  If someone is willing to just cry and moan and argue and advocate such mindsets in a discusion then to me it goes towards their credibility as to whether they are simply trying to incite or bitch or complain just for the hell of it hoping someone else will do the work or if they are trying to change things by actually taking part in the struggle to change.  

If someone feels THIS passionately about something that most of their posts are generalizing negatively towards cops NOT because he disagrees with cops but he disagrees with the SYSTEM cops enforce because its the law, then he i would think would be out there attempting to change the SYSTEM ALSO not just bitching and moaning on a discussion board but actively working to change what you bitch about and what you are willing to place others in additional danger by inciting mindsets against a whole instead of a few.  He is up in arms about how his friend is being treated for her felonious behavior and yet he sits and gets mad about it and wants others to feel indignant for his friend but what has he DONE to change the system his friend is caught up in..... nothing.

He is biased about who is allowed to suffer and who are victims -- he so far has yet to see a cop a victim of someone who refused to take responsibiliity for their actions, but instead wants to make that person the victim of the cops and more so the SYSTEM at large. 

Talk is cheap, if you are THIS passionate about something, then i would think your self-respect would have you out there working to make a change, not just telling people on a discussion board how bad the system is wherein the enforcers of that system are the enemy of the people and deserve to deal with uncooperative, out of control, people and they the cops better not damn be physical with these people or they will be deemed the bad guys.

If he showed an attempt to place his talk into action of change, it woud have made a big difference to how i see his posts. I probably would have respected his views even if i can't agree with them.  But talk is cheap, anyone willing to place others in danger because of their biased opinions who isn't willing to put themselves out there to work hard for the change they want to see -- doesn't have my respect for as i said -- talk is cheap.

Hopefully, maybe this will change how he views it and he will get out there and start working for the change instead of just talking about it.  He has a hard road for federal and state change but there are groups that work in it to do so.  People whose actions back up their passionate talk.

angel 

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 8:54:59 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to marie2)
Profile   Post #: 123
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:22:12 AM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

If someone is going to advocate a mindset that puts OTHERS in danger by advocating said mindsets towards a set group of people (i.e., police officers) BECAUSE someone doesn't approve of the SYSTEM  this group of people enforce because its the law for now -- then yeah, to me what they are choosing to do to CHANGE THE SYSTEM --



How is he putting people in danger?

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 124
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:32:52 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		By inciting, disparaging, and generalizations of cops as a whole.  It not only puts cops in danger but it puts citizens in danger and advocates ignorance which in turn advocates biased anger and fear. It makes for very unstable interactions which could very well become like the granny episode and people are MORE apt to blame the cop instead of waiting for the REAL story, they don't hold the person responsible they simply want to make the cops the bad guys -- you have cops wondering if the person in the car they are walking up to is someone who generalizes as a whole and thereby will use the situation to make it an altercation or if they are going to cooperate.  You have citizens who watch cops come up to the car and think of all the generalizations and this many times gives cause to people acting belligerant etc etc etc when its completely unnecessary and then crying out bad cop when their own actions create the situation instead of just cooperating.   If you can't see that, then i can't help you.  Spreading generalizations of disparagment and negativity as a whole to me does in fact put people in danger because of ignorance.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 9:34:52 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to marie2)
Profile   Post #: 125
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:38:09 AM   
OrionTheWolf


Posts: 7803
Joined: 10/11/2006
Status: offline 		Let us see here barelynangel. I commented on the fourth post in this topic, which was yours. the OP stated this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkaq9o_qe1M

Two Oklahoma State Troopers pulling over an ambulance enroute to a hospital with a patient because they felt the paramedics didn't respect their "author-a-tie."  One actually grabs a paramedic around the neck; they then leave without making an arrest.  It's good the poor woman being taken to the hospital wasn't dying.  But she could have been. 

CNN reported that the officer "accepted" administrative leave, and they finally released the dashcam footage which showed the police acting like thugs just like the cell-cam footage showed.  Typical power hungry thugs hiding behind badges. 


Then the second post was this:
quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Just incredible.


Then the third was is this:
quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Absolutely horrifying.





quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Orion, perhaps you should read the rest of the posts and you will see why i stated that.   Seeing you read up to THAT point.  You may want to continue and read my response to Panda.

angel



_____________________________

When speaking of slaves people always tend to ignore this definition "One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence."

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 126
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:40:50 AM   
OrionTheWolf


Posts: 7803
Joined: 10/11/2006
Status: offline 		By our governments allowing, covering up, or not firing and imprisoning cops that abuse their authority, they endanger other cops that are doing their job in an appropriate manner. Look to where the problem begins, with the action of law enforcement officers that abuse their authority. If some law enforcement officers did not abuse their authority, there would be very little issue about it.

Put the responsibility where it belongs.


quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

By inciting, disparaging, and generalizations of cops as a whole.  It not only puts cops in danger but it puts citizens in danger and advocates ignorance which in turn advocates biased anger and fear. It makes for very unstable interactions which could very well become like the granny episode and people are MORE apt to blame the cop instead of waiting for the REAL story, they don't hold the person responsible they simply want to make the cops the bad guys -- you have cops wondering if the person in the car they are walking up to is someone who generalizes as a whole and thereby will use the situation to make it an altercation or if they are going to cooperate.  You have citizens who watch cops come up to the car and think of all the generalizations and this many times gives cause to people acting belligerant etc etc etc when its completely unnecessary and then crying out bad cop when their own actions create the situation instead of just cooperating.   If you can't see that, then i can't help you.  Spreading generalizations of disparagment and negativity as a whole to me does in fact put people in danger because of ignorance.

angel


_____________________________

When speaking of slaves people always tend to ignore this definition "One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence."

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 127
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:43:00 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		Yes, Orion read on.  Perhaps you will find the answer.  You can make this an issue or you can simply read on -- the choice is yours.  I am sure by now you have read on so i am really lost as to why you really are going to now try and make this a huge issue.  If you continue, do so for your own validation lol, i won't be paying attention to you.  If you want to discuss then fine, but if you want to make this a battle of wills -- find someone else.

angel

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to OrionTheWolf)
Profile   Post #: 128
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:45:41 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		Thank you for actually discussing Orion, i DO put the responsibility where it belongs i in NO WAY advocate bad cops.  I do understand however, that one BAD cop doesn't make EVERYONE bad.   And i do hold PEOPLE responsible for their actions -- which many people don't want too they want to make the VICTIMS the people being arrested and i am sorry but that is BS as a WHOLE.  I have never said that BAD cops don't have victims in their actions.

To me only ignorant people and people who don't like authority they are required to live under take the actions of one or a few and make it all about the millions of others.  People can stamp their feet and say well a cop treated me badly, my question becomes oh?  What did you do to incite the situation?  Usually what they did created the situation wherein the officer most times act within their authority AS OFFICERS.  Sorry but when it comes down to a citizen and the authority == the citizen should cooperate as inciting the situation is not going to get them out of having to answer for what they are suspected of.


angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 9:48:59 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 129
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:47:21 AM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

By inciting, disparaging, and generalizations of cops as a whole.  It not only puts cops in danger but it puts citizens in danger and advocates ignorance which in turn advocates biased anger and fear. It makes for very unstable interactions which could very well become like the granny episode and people are MORE apt to blame the cop instead of waiting for the REAL story, they don't hold the person responsible they simply want to make the cops the bad guys -- you have cops wondering if the person in the car they are walking up to is someone who generalizes as a whole and thereby will use the situation to make it an altercation or if they are going to cooperate.  You have citizens who watch cops come up to the car and think of all the generalizations and this many times gives cause to people acting belligerant etc etc etc when its completely unnecessary and then crying out bad cop when their own actions create the situation instead of just cooperating.   If you can't see that, then i can't help you. 

angel



I don't think citing a particular incident and venting about his disgust on a message board is endangering society. 

But if you feel that strongly about the statements you have made, what are you doing to help all these police officers and citizens that are in this grave danger that you speak of?  Are you doing something to change the right to free speech, so that people like Slaveboy can't "advocate this mindset" (read: voice his opinion on a message board). 

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 130
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 9:56:21 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		Umm marie, as many people in this thread have pointed out this is NOT the only place he does this lol almost every thread that has to do with cops he does it.  So your thinking here is flawed.

As to what i do, lol let's see  i have written letters to my respresentatives about how laws many times are infringing on the safety of our officers, i have also written letters based on the conditions of prisons and such, i have also given to many organizations that support police officers and i have investigated what these organizations do, i have attended political fundraisers that support police officers and laws that effect them, i worked for the criminal state's attorney's office lol because i wanted to do my part in supporting the law and not advocating criminal behavior, i have also attended functions that support prison reform and attended functions for same. 

Mostly, i am a letter writer...... I feel if things change it will have to initialy be on the federal level and trickle down.  I have spoken personally with my reps on a couple occassions when i was in Chicago, and once i even spoke to Al Gore when i was at a political function with him when he was running as my company was giving it.

If you have any other suggestions as to what i can do - please i am all ears.  But what i am doing is what police officers and people in various organizations have suggested to me based on the time and funds i have available to give.

And if it matters, i am also involved with various charities that help mothers in prison and getting to see their kids, i have actually taken kids to see their mom's in prison.  I have advocated for more halfway houses that help mothers who have ben in prison find their feet.   there are many many ways to work towards change if someone really wants it.   My charities are not all that extensive in this area as mostly my charities are along the lines of children's charities.

Oh edited to add, and when my criminal friends start boasting on how they treated a cop or if they whine about their treatment when they have in fact committed the crime i go off on them and demand they take responsibility for their actions and understand consequences suck when you do something you know is against the law and in their minds they fucking got caught lol.  I don't take disrespect to cops from my friends who know the other side rather well.  Cops may choose to be cops but people who commit crimes also make choices.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 10:07:45 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to marie2)
Profile   Post #: 131
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 10:14:29 AM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline 		Man this thread is getting  spatty.

..Ya know somewhere they used ambulances as car bombs.

The piece offers insufficient  info.    So  not much can be said about it.

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 132
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 10:26:13 AM   
OrionTheWolf


Posts: 7803
Joined: 10/11/2006
Status: offline 		I did find the answer, but not the one you are eluding to.

Ignore as you wish, you show how mature most times when you post in these many threads, with that huge chip on your shoulder.

It is not a battle of wills, just pointing out that you assumed something that was not there.

I did just post a discussion, and a more valid/correct examination of the issue. I see you did not respond to them, which would show what?

My Grandfather used to say it takes 100 attaboys, to equal one mess up. So for every bad cop, it makes 100 more look bad. If law enforcement wants to improve their image, then the core has to be fixed. The Blue Wall has to be pierced, and cops need to stop making exceptions to the policies, procedures, and sometimes laws that apply to them. Their fellow officers need to pressure the one's causing a problem, to stop doing it. The unfortunate part is this will not occur. The job usually makes someone jaded, and they often start looking at many people as a "perp".

Perception becomes truth, when no one shows it to be otherwise.

quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Yes, Orion read on.  Perhaps you will find the answer.  You can make this an issue or you can simply read on -- the choice is yours.  I am sure by now you have read on so i am really lost as to why you really are going to now try and make this a huge issue.  If you continue, do so for your own validation lol, i won't be paying attention to you.  If you want to discuss then fine, but if you want to make this a battle of wills -- find someone else.

angel


_____________________________

When speaking of slaves people always tend to ignore this definition "One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence."

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 133
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 10:28:18 AM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Umm marie, as many people in this thread have pointed out this is NOT the only place he does this lol almost every thread that has to do with cops he does it.  So your thinking here is flawed.


He is speaking his opinion on certain matters, which are no doubt based upon his life's experiences and perceptions....they are no more valid or invalid than yours or mine.  Creating an imagined situation of danger and holding slaveboy responsible for what someone else might do, is quite a stretch.  Unless and until he breaks the law, he has as much a right to voice his beliefs as you or I do, even if we see those beliefs as a bit radical. 

My "thinking" is not "flawed" angel, it just varies from yours.  

At any rate, apparantly none of your activism can stop people from voicing their opinions on things that you strongly disagree with, or stop them from being a "danger" to society.  So, I guess you haven't done much more than slaveboy has done to make any real change about this issue, which is cops who have transgressed, not mothers in jail having visitation with their kids. 



(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 134
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 10:30:41 AM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Man this thread is getting  spatty.




whatever, I'm done with this one.

(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 135
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 10:56:28 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		chuckles, the guy has the nerve to talk about chips on their shoulders.  Orion, if you have a mirror in your house find one and you may realize you are the pot.

I won't be responding to you anymore as you aren't worth my time, there are more interesting people to discuss with even if its people who completely disagree with me so if you want to continue with your theories of ME on a personal level enjoy, i think that shows your maturity very well.

Hopefully this ends now instead of you making it all personal which you now have.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 11:09:13 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to marie2)
Profile   Post #: 136
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 11:05:55 AM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		marie, you ae correct your thinking isn't flawed for what you are commenting on.  As to what i was commenting in -- i believe your thinking is flawed.  Its a matter of perception i guess.  i am not here to change really anything but i have a lot of cops as friends and yes one has given his life for his job... , i would HOPE people like slaveboyforyou who seems to completely generalize cops would stop and think what that whole attitude creates in terms of public safety.  I am al for civil rights and personal rights of people, but i can't advocate a mindset that creates a volital situation between people because ignorance (and i am not speaking of personal ignorance of people who have experienced things) i am talking about the sheep mentality of people out there who have NEVER had a negative run in with officers outside their own irritations they got caught speading etc who suddenly use what other say in the negative to start generalizing as a whole.  

The way i see it also is this -- courts sometimes are corrupt however, due to the atmosphere and people surrounding same, people are not allowed and do not express themselves any which way they are held to standards no matter HOW badly they hate or feel the judge or system is corrupt, its simply the SYSTEM in place, therefore, i don't see why cops are generalized where they are ALL bad and its okay for people being arrested to not cooperate with them and then tell it to the judge.  Instead people advocate what granny did or what they did by fighting or being belligerant etc.  

That's i think why i have a hard time with generalizations of cops.  People have a choice they can ignorantly be sheep or they can evaluate every incident as a separate and distinct incident and not generalize. I understand people feel cops are a level above and they are, but that doesn't mean that human nature isn't a concept wherein a few bad eggs get through.

Slaveboyforyou has yet to show me he is capable of unbiasedly looking at cops from what he has said in MANY areas of these discussions.  I have seen him say well i don't hate all cops lol but then the rest of his posts include generalizations of cops. 

As you said, this is discusion, if its discussion then why are you all up in arms based on MY opinions lol.  Obviously, discusing things can incite certain mindsets and ideas based on the subject matter.  You have a choice of what you take from a discussion just as i do and everyone else.  I would hope many people take away the idea that generalizing isn't the way to go.  However, i know many won't and will continue to generalize about cops which every generalization to me puts my friends and people i know in danger on both sides of the badge.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 11:07:54 AM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 137
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 12:46:55 PM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline 		angel...

Possibly I did not expound enough to make my point clear.  No, it's not that I have any problem with people expressing opposing views (opinions).   Of course thats what everyone is here to do.  My point is that I think it's unfair to say that slaveboy, in the expression of his opinion, is putting people in danger, and that slaveboy doesn't have a valid right to express his opinion because he isn't doing something actively to change the situation that's he's bitching about. 

The bottom line of what I was originally trying to suggest was that it's best to "attack" the person's argument, rather than the person, whether it be slaveboy or whomever. 

< Message edited by marie2 -- 6/14/2009 12:47:45 PM >

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 138
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 1:14:58 PM   
barelynangel


Posts: 6233
Status: offline 		marie slaveboyforyou is opinionated and direct enough to defend himself and he seems to get himself into these types of discussions A LOT all on his own.  Sometimes he is on a side everyone likes what he is saying and sometimes not -- its the nature of the beast of discussion boards.  i really don't think he needs you as his protector especially when he has brought this on himself as he has said he is very opinionated and has strong feelings -- well do do the rest of us who are in with his thinking.  And for the record with regard to specfic stuff most people aren't DISAGREEING with him on -- just the generalizing he does.    He is a big boy and if he runs around saying things as MANY of us do, you may let him deal with the consequences of his actions instead of shaking your finger as if you are the person who directs how people should discuss things as we all do.. 

As an individual i do believe his generalization does in fact make a possibility of dangerous situations for cops, i have my right to say so just as you feel he has his right to generalize.  So you are being kinda very hypocritical as to what HE is allowed to say and what others are.  .

And simply because i direct my comments at him and to him in disagreement is NOT attacking him but what he is expressing -- which is the same thing he does when someone disagrees with him and he says things back.  I think this is enough talk ABOUT him, he is a strong and opinionated person, i doubt he is feeling people are attacking him outside the scope of the discussions that he himself instigates very easily lol.  we all do, and if we can't hack it --- we shouldn't be discussing.

Please stop trying to instigate that i am doing something i am not.  Your attempt to try and take people to task as to how you want them to respond TO him, is in fact hypocritical as you are doing to others what you claim they are doing to him.  Try discussing the topic yourself which i don't believe you actually have yet. Instead you are making this personal towards me and what i am saying to slaveboyforyou lol which i am trying to figure out why you believe THAT's okay.

Find another whipping girl hun, this one isn't going to continue this with you.  Thanks.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/14/2009 1:36:24 PM >

_____________________________


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
R.W. Emerson


(in reply to marie2)
Profile   Post #: 139
RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics - 6/14/2009 1:39:46 PM   
marie2


Posts: 1690
Joined: 11/4/2008
From: Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

marie slaveboyforyou is opinionated and direct enough to defend himself and he seems to get himself into these types of discussions A LOT all on his own.  Sometimes he is on a side everyone likes what he is saying and sometimes not -- its the nature of the beast of discussion boards.  i really don't think he needs you as his protector especially when he has brought this on himself as he has said he is very opinionated and has strong feelings


Did you see the part where I said, "whether it be slaveboy or whomever".  I am not defending him specifically, I am speaking to a principle.  I am surprised you cannot make that distinction. 

At any rate, it has become clear to me that you cannot actually argue the heart of what I said, so you attempt once again to put your "opponent" on the defensive.  A boring tactic and not something I'm inclined to engage in further.

Se fine.

(in reply to barelynangel)
Profile   Post #: 140
Page:   <<   < prev  5 6 [7] 8 9   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Oklahoma Cops Attack Paramedics Page: <<   < prev  5 6 [7] 8 9   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109