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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 8:55:34 AM

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Well clearly you're not a very good judge of character.

In your opinion. You're clearly looking for people to give one response, and you've twisted every response to be what you want it to be. Present different evidence (i.e.: something that makes you seem anything other than slimy and argumentative) and I might reach a different conclusion.

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I'm not referring to this particular website, but two others (AFF and alt) which I have been a member of for a much longer time.

Then possibly... although I've had my Alt profile since I was 18, and I've probably gotten less than thirty spam messages on there, total... I'll echo leadership527 and say maybe you want to examine why your experience has been so different from others.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 9:02:42 AM

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Well clearly you're not a very good judge of character.

In your opinion. You're clearly looking for people to give one response, and you've twisted every response to be what you want it to be. Present different evidence (i.e.: something that makes you seem anything other than slimy and argumentative) and I might reach a different conclusion.

Of course it's in my opinion, who elses could it be in? I must refuse to comply with your terms as what you view me as is not my concern.

I'd like to thank those that have commented positively with interesting thoughts so far to this thread. Very interesting ideas on biological risks/rape issue affecting women and so forth.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 9:04:47 AM

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Of course it's in my opinion, who elses could it be in? I must refuse to comply with your terms as what you view me as is not my concern.

Made abundantly clear by commenting on it twice. But I'm not interested in threadjacking or in turning this into a dick waving contest, so allow me to bow out.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 9:12:45 AM

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Of course it's in my opinion, who elses could it be in? I must refuse to comply with your terms as what you view me as is not my concern.

Made abundantly clear by commenting on it twice. But I'm not interested in threadjacking or in turning this into a dick waving contest, so allow me to bow out.

Clearly you are only interested in the latter two (threadjacking/dickwaving) as you have added nothing of worth to the discussion.

You are not my concern, but I am not rude and will acknowledge you and make my position clear. Don't misjudge this for concern, although you seem to be concerned with being my concern.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 9:35:45 AM

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Dude. SmokingGun has a point. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't bother to respond. It certainly seems as though you are unable to allow someone else to have the last word. That means that people you will never meet have control over your behavior.

Also, leadership527's post is worth rereading several times. There is something you are doing (that he is not, and that I am not) that attracts scammers, if in fact you have received hundreds of messages from them. If you eliminate that behavior, you will be able to spend more time talking to women who are actively interested in meeting someone for real. I've been moderately successful in kinky online dating, and there's really only two things you need to do: (1) don't waste time with people who are not serious, and (2) be a decent human being with people who are serious.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 11:06:27 AM

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The huge secret is that the ratio is NOT that skewed. If you can show that you're not an idiot, the odds improve a LOT.

Write a woman here and say "I think you're way hot!" or "You have nice tits!" and your mail will get trashed instantly. But write her and include a copy of a post she made here or a journal entry and speak directly to it. Agree with it or disagree and state why. If you do this and do it well, you'll find that there are plenty of women.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 12:10:50 PM

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the vast amount of cam girls on many sites

Men who are looking for the 21 year old Asian with the DD bosom seem to run into a lot of fake profiles, though, for some reason.

Well I've never gone looking for 21 year old Asians with DD bosoms since I don't personally find asian women attractive. I nonetheless have got hundreds of messages from these people either trying to sell me cam services or attempting to marry me and get a green card.

Use your mail controls, here. For example: if you route email from people outside your search paprameters to your bulk mail, you can ignore them until you feel like going in there and deleting them. Block and delete. And don't forget that you can also hide your profile when you search.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 3:53:49 PM

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Dude. SmokingGun has a point. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't bother to respond. It certainly seems as though you are unable to allow someone else to have the last word. That means that people you will never meet have control over your behavior.

Nonsense.

People need to be told how worthless they are so that there is no confusion.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 3:55:02 PM

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the vast amount of cam girls on many sites

Men who are looking for the 21 year old Asian with the DD bosom seem to run into a lot of fake profiles, though, for some reason.

Well I've never gone looking for 21 year old Asians with DD bosoms since I don't personally find asian women attractive. I nonetheless have got hundreds of messages from these people either trying to sell me cam services or attempting to marry me and get a green card.

Use your mail controls, here. For example: if you route email from people outside your search paprameters to your bulk mail, you can ignore them until you feel like going in there and deleting them. Block and delete. And don't forget that you can also hide your profile when you search.

I understand, but as I have mentioned earlier in this thread I was referring to other sites, namely AFF and alt. Thanks for the tip though.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 4:17:56 PM

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Dude. SmokingGun has a point. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't bother to respond. It certainly seems as though you are unable to allow someone else to have the last word. That means that people you will never meet have control over your behavior.

Nonsense.

People need to be told how worthless they are so that there is no confusion.

Last night I couldn't put my finger on what you were trying to do here so I stopped posting. You keep it up... your making things much clearer. lol

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 4:55:02 PM

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People need to be told how worthless they are so that there is no confusion.

You may not realize it, but your comment is very much relevant to the topic of this thread. I'm below-average height, average endowment, not particularly muscular, no pic on my profile. And yet, the most recent bit of gossip about me is that I will be having a torrid encounter with a drop-dead gorgeous CM woman in six days -- and I'm dating her instead of the restaurant owner or the sports massage therapist who have expressed interest in me.

Why on earth would a woman who could "have any man" choose to have someone as "average" as me? Part of the reason is that I think no human being is worthless. I see possibilities in everyone, and hope for the future in everything. That excites and inspires people. The attitude you just displayed, by contrast, repels people... and turns women off. If you behave in a repulsive manner, the only message traffic you will be able to sustain is the traffic from scammer profiles.

The choice is yours.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 5:37:40 PM

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LOL... Lookie wants more than that... he wants someone to pick up his socks...

It's not THAT bad of a job (AND.....I provide free gas masks!)

Okay....let me be more specific...low cost, subsidized masks.

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RE: On Male/Female Ratios - 6/17/2009 8:27:09 PM

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Dude, if you really want that approach to work, go to gay.com or something. The only women you're going to attract with the "I'm too sexy for this site" shtick are likely to be men posing as women, and scammers who are after your money. If you're a little patient, and show people why they should be interested in you, you'll have better quality responses. AFF and Alt have even more scammers than here, but if you're reasonably sensible, you should be able to figure out who they are very easily, 95% of the time.

It's not even that women are necessarily more repressed about sex and BDSM than men are, it's just that even the relatively few who are interested in being casual about it almost always still want to be seen as a person first, not just a sex toy.

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We can find sex and play in real life, in nonfetish places. Men can't.

Logically this doesn't make sense. If these women can find this (and wish to do this with men) and men can't, how are these women finding anything? If men are involved then surely they can?

*shrugs* I've talked with several of the guys I met here and dated, and guys I've met through vanilla interests and dated, before I found my Master. Almost all of them had tried introducing women to BDSM before, but few of the ladies were interested, and they were really concerned that it would scare the women off.

I had a guy I met through vanilla interests and knew for a while beforehand introduce me to BDSM and D/s (as a Domme) when I was 20, and I haven't had a vanilla relationship since. I've dated several guys who I met through friends and hobbies and such, and usually told them about it on the 3rd date or so. I've never had a guy react negatively, refuse to date me over it, or even act particularly shocked over it. I think guys are more openminded about exploring it than women, who haven't been introduced to it before.

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