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And, finally, can we agree that the degree of who has what power and how much is very much affected by if one is a submissive or a slave??? I think it is indeed. Sorry, can't agree with that one. I know submissive men and women who have a TPE relationship with less say so than many slaves over daily life and life long decision making. The degree and amount of power is determined only by the individuals in a particular group dynamic ::including groups of two:: and not by any label they may or may not accept. I will, however, agree to disagree with you. ;) Welcome to the boards, Level.. I'm enjoying your posts. Celeste *grins*.......okay okaaaaaay......it does depend on the individuals......but *lightbulb goes off over my head, flickers, but stays lit, if dimly*........would you all agree that in the grand scheme of things, if people followed the definitions of BDSM closely, you would have, at least in general, deeper submission by slaves? A slave, by definition, is another's property.........and one can be deeply submissive, of course, without being a slave.....but being anothers property denotes to me pretty much the be all end all of being owned....now, if a couple calls themselves Master and slave, and the Owner allows the owned to do pretty much what she wants, that's fine, but if that Owner decides to tighten the reigns over the owned, and the owned says "hardy har har, I don't think so", then just how "owned" was she?......sure, they can call themself anything they want, doesn't make them bad people, doesn't mean I don't like them or respect them.....but don't expect me to consider nor call you "slave" if you quack like something else *laughs*.........some don't consider me a dominant because I have on occasion enjoyed bottoming *smiles and shrugs*.....so I do understand how some feel, when they're told they're "not real".......and, as many have said before, what matters most is how the parties involved feel towards one another, 'cause life is awful short, and if you and yours are happy, then by god you have something special. And Celeste, thank you very much for the kind welcome *smiles*.......I genuinely appreciate it, and I want to say that I not only enjoyed your posts, but your profile as well.......extremely well done. Be well and hope to hear more from you and others here. Level ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` "We must learn our limits. We are all something, but none of us are everything." Blaise Pascal
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