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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 7:35:06 AM   
Arpig


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Well then might I suggest hurting her?

Personally my impression is that the OP wants us to give graphic descriptions of extreme and erotic ways of inflicting pain so he can do a little manual releasing of pent up pressures.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 8:04:49 AM   
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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 8:39:43 AM   
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So instead of using your techiniques and ideas for punishment, use them just because you want to. though I would have to think that after training 7 subs if you havne't found one in the group who just craves a good beating your not doing something right.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 10:32:32 AM   
MasterJones


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Status: offline 		Thank you so much, you gave me great insight, as everyone has said, the first step is having a very complete conversation with her to see what her interests are in this and her limits. Doing that, and lets assume she is like you and enjoys spanking and the such, what are some ideas I can do for play sessions?

MJ

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 10:36:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJones

I have just collared a new submissive female masochist, and I don't have much experience in inflicting pain for pleasure. Can some of you help me decide what type of play would be best for starting off with her?

MJ


Well, I would say your first mistake, is collaring a slave, that it seems you hardly know. Why would you already have offered, and I am not sure why she would have already accepted. You do not know what she is into, and she does not know that you can provide what she needs, and vice versa for that matter. You could both end up being miserable.

The best advice I can say is get to know her. Talk with her and LISTEN to what she has to say. Express what you want out of the relationship and get her to express herself as well. Once you know more specifically what her needs are, you will better be able to get advice, if you still need it. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on these boards, but last time I checked, no mind readers.

But for the record, if you have trained seven subs already, you have trained more than me, so maybe I shoul be asking you the advice!

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 10:36:37 AM   
amayos


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Big Brother on this board would most likely censor my recommendations.

As a dominant, this is something you need to answer for yourself, naturally. What pleases YOU?

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/18/2006 10:48:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MHOO314


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"Beat me, hurt me" said the masochist "No" replied the sadist...





Damn... now that is a true sadist... LOL


Tie her to a tree, then beat the tree--sadism at its best.




Dang you people do a good job of convincing me I'm very sadistic. Hmm..


*edited cuz I'm still asleep and ended up putting my comment inside the others quotes.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 3:23:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne
I'm sorry I am falling on the side of arpig here.


The OP has stayed with the thread and throughout has been thankfull of those who have offered constructive advice. So although I think the opinion is somewhat misconceived, don't ever be sorry you have an one ;)

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though I would have to think that after training 7 subs if you havne't found one in the group who just craves a good beating your not doing something right.


It's a matter of dealing with a masochist who needs pain to orgasm...somewhat different than a matter of simply 'craving a good beating' and dishing one out (imo).

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 3:46:29 AM   
slave4Darby3d


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You've gotten enough suggestions, don't you think? If you want the community to script out your interaction with your "collared slave" then we as a collective become YOUR dominant.

As a collared slave myself I have to *respectfully* suggest that you grow some cohones, talk to her, rethink the collaring before knowing her, and let YOUR and HER combined interests write your script.

If I found that my Master came here to ask for advice on how to beat me, well, I would seriously think that maybe he wasn't dominant enough or adequately experienced to handle me...

(I am sure I will take some backlash for my directness...that's fine...

Your results may vary...

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 4:04:34 AM   
ExistentialSteel


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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

Damn, now I have done it! Sorry about that. The thing about sharing a computer, is that when one forgets to log off, the other ends up posting under their name! Ack!


Just curious here, but who do you share a computer with who posts here?

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 4:09:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jasmyn gave you good, practical advice, but I'm still thinking of your point about her needing pain to orgasm and wonder if she means as with sex? If that is the case, do her doggy style and hit her with a slapper or a belt at the same time. Lots of teasing and all can be done that way. It gives both sex and pain at the same time.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 6:17:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MHOO314
Tie her to a tree, then beat the tree--sadism at its best.


As both a tree hugger and a slave, that just hurts on so many levels,lmao.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 10:00:23 AM   
MasterJones


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Good idea, thank you. but this seems like an idea for down the road with her. I am looking for some ideas that I can use on her for just the 2nd or 3rd session with her, got any for me?

MJ

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 10:05:34 AM   
MasterJones


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Status: offline 		I understand your position, but I have completed step one yesterday and have initated conversation with her about her likes and dislikes with regard to this lifestyle. She is relatively new and has experieced many different types of play, but I have found out one thing for sure, she is really in need of domination, she just wants to be taken, but taken painfully, maybe she is a pain slut, I am not sure, but I will continue to find out. We have yet to schedule a session, I will continue to talk with her this next week to find out her boundaries then set up some sessions. I also found out that she is only 26 and very intelligent and needs to be controlled, the longest she has been in bondage is 1 1/2 hours so she has much to learn.

MJ

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 10:08:10 AM   
MasterJones


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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 10:10:21 AM   
MasterJones


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thankyou for you openess, and frankness. I really do appreciate your thoughts on this matter. I agree I have enough to start with her, I have had conversations and getting more information as I go. I will be planning sessions soon, thank you for your advice, and I don't thinkyou stepped out of line, as I appreciate your candor.

MJ

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 3:18:32 PM   
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After having just read your profile, I am completely confused as to why you would ask this question...

Your profile states that you are an expert at spanking, whips and wax play. It also says that you are into hair pulling and tolerate canes and crops...sounds like a good start at sadism to me...

Your profile also states that you have trained 6 other subs and your wife. Out of 7 submissives this is the first one that likes pain? WOW.



Actually, that's not unusual... Just because one is a sub/slave does not mean they are a "Masochist" just as not every Dom/me is a "Sadist". Sure, most subs/slaves enjoy some form of pain, but when one specifically identifies themself as a "Masochist" (i.e., pain is their PRIMARY focus), then that's a different ball game all together.

I too have trained several, but because I'm NOT a "Sadist", my girls are those that primarily seek the control, domination, objectification, etc. of a Master as opposed to the "pain" aspect.

Make sense?





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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 4:15:20 PM   
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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/19/2006 5:31:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: la90066

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

After having just read your profile, I am completely confused as to why you would ask this question...

Your profile states that you are an expert at spanking, whips and wax play. It also says that you are into hair pulling and tolerate canes and crops...sounds like a good start at sadism to me...

Your profile also states that you have trained 6 other subs and your wife. Out of 7 submissives this is the first one that likes pain? WOW.



Actually, that's not unusual... Just because one is a sub/slave does not mean they are a "Masochist" just as not every Dom/me is a "Sadist". Sure, most subs/slaves enjoy some form of pain, but when one specifically identifies themself as a "Masochist" (i.e., pain is their PRIMARY focus), then that's a different ball game all together.

I too have trained several, but because I'm NOT a "Sadist", my girls are those that primarily seek the control, domination, objectification, etc. of a Master as opposed to the "pain" aspect.

Make sense?





What you say makes perfect sense, la. What confuses me is that there were 7 of them and not one a pain slut. Now, not to say it's not possible. It's certainly possible. But...is it likely? Hence the WOW at the end of my comment.

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RE: Play ideas for my new submissive female masochist? - 2/20/2006 2:57:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJones

No one, why?

MJ


MJ, I was referring to MisstressofGa's post right above mine. Good luck with your first meeting.


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