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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

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Is that Guinness in that emoticon?

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ORIGINAL: KaityK

How do you train someone online? I know many offer it in return for money which isn't what M/s D/s etc is all about FOR ME. If people want to pay then fair enough. I know people who do but even they would say it's not the same as being in a proper relationship with someone and they pay for rl play not online nonsense.

I had someone respond to my adverts once that said he would train me 'online and on the phone' before we met. Apparently this was to make me at ease but my mind just goes into overdrive at these kinds of suggestions and I think there must be reasons why he can't meet me yet; he is insecure, he doesn't have any equipment, he stinks... On asking how on earth he could 'train' me online the answer was 'tasks'. I absolutely loathe this concept. Tasks usually involve going shopping without knickers on (yawn), going out with things inserted (double yawn) in fact, practically anything that will piss me right off and I still don't know how anyone can be 'trained' from a distance. Not how to serve sexually anyway. Maybe they can be brainwashed into thinking they have a relationship but they are not 'trained' to be that persons submissive if they've never touched them.

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ORIGINAL: LPslittleclip

i have a long distance relationship with my M'Lady due to my being deployed right now. i have lived with Her and proudly wear her collar. that being said it is not a matter of it being truly anything. as i am now apart from all that is near to me i take great comfort in having a ability to be in a submissive relationship in any form. for many there is little opportunity to be with someone full time  due to the economy and such. being physical with my M'Lady only intensifies Our bond but the distance only means that there is no physical contact not that it is of little meaning or significance. in the military there is great prejudice on bdsm but there are many who practice it. all of those who follow kink should help not hinder others who practice what they can as they can.
LPs_littleclip

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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

It makes me sad and somewhat appalled that some people within our own community judge a book by its cover, so to speak.

i am not a negative person and hate finger-pointing, however, i am interested to find out what others' views are on this issue.
k.

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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

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ORIGINAL: LPslittleclip

i have a long distance relationship with my M'Lady due to my being deployed right now. i have lived with Her and proudly wear her collar. that being said it is not a matter of it being truly anything. as i am now apart from all that is near to me i take great comfort in having a ability to be in a submissive relationship in any form. for many there is little opportunity to be with someone full time  due to the economy and such. being physical with my M'Lady only intensifies Our bond but the distance only means that there is no physical contact not that it is of little meaning or significance. in the military there is great prejudice on bdsm but there are many who practice it. all of those who follow kink should help not hinder others who practice what they can as they can.
LPs_littleclip

i admire your courage and honesty, standing up and being proud of your bond with LadyPact - i wish you both the deepest of joy and happiness from the bottom of my heart :) It takes a truly strong person to be true to who they are without flinching :) To be in the military, facing all kinds of unimaginable hardship, yet never condemning or denying who you truly are, makes you a true hero.

You are in my thoughts :)

k.

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

That point being, Liars are Liars online or offline.

Definitely agreed. *hugs*

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

But I wont say its a relationship, until you've actually tasted that persons kiss.

Just have to disagree here. This one time I just *knew* how it will be when we finally met, in part because the physical distance between us meant we had to wait quite a while. For me, online was the same as offline, simply at a higher intensity when we were finally in person. I called it a relationship before we met, as did he. By calling it such, we made it so.

lyss

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

24/7 slaves are not chained to a post 24/7.  They have lives and jobs.  The ones I know in real life do, anyway.  Perhaps the ones you know in real life are chained to a post.  Things might be different in your small country.

*hurries away to unchain slave from his post*


*lol*

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ORIGINAL: Falkenstein

Dear Katey,

First, please accept my kudos for you daring to contradict the Guardians of BDSM Purity. As they say in Germany: A lot of enemies, a lot of honour.

I will always wonder why submissive women like you have such a tremendous courage. It looks to me than when Thor is tired of hammering swords for the Gods, he forges submissive souls.

And then, I, a mere son of Loki, can bent them my way. This world is not a bad place after all ;-)

As for the topic of your post: I will go in detail later

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

i wouldn't say i'm "prejudice" i just have an opinion about that kind of arrangement. And we all know what opinions are!...They are like assholes...everyones got one

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

i wouldn't say i'm "prejudice" i just have an opinion about that kind of arrangement. And we all know what opinions are!...They are like assholes...everyones got one

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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

One issue that has arisen for me in the last week, which surprised me a great deal, is the stance that some people within the BDSM community take towards
people who may live in separate countries, yet conduct genuine, meaningful D/s relationships. Someone in the community actually made the assertion last week that my Master and i were simply "playing online", that i am not owned, simply because i am not physically wearing His collar. This thread actually makes a great follow-on from the thread "Feeling owned without being collared" that was posted some days ago. It makes me sad and somewhat appalled that some people within our own community judge a book by its cover, so to speak.

i am not a negative person and hate finger-pointing, however, i am interested to find out what others' views are on this issue. If two people are sincere, love eachother and are committed to eachother, have laid the groundwork for a relationship across the board,which transcends a D/s situation, it doesn't mean that they are "playing online" (i think the reason why i find this particular phrase offensive is the connotation of falseness and duplicity that it has) simply because they might live in separate continents. i think it all depends on what is in the heart of the Dom/Master and the sub/slave. Love is love, trust is trust, no matter what continent
one party may live in. A collar is merely a physical symbol made of leather or steel, the spiritual and emotional bond between Master/slave or Dom/sub is what truly matters.

i guess the statement that i was confronted with last week from a Dom, kind of threw me, as we get enough rubbish from those outside the community that don't always understand the dynamic of D/s or M/s relationships and may leap to awful conclusions of pain and non-consensual acts. It saddens me that there is a degree of prejudice WITHIN the BDSM community when we should all show solidarity, empathy and support one another instead of throwing stones at our own "peeps". There's enough hate out there as it is.



DISCLAIMER : This thread is NOT intended to be pugnacious or combative. Apologies to anyone who might find this so.

k.

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One issue that has arisen for me in the last week, which surprised me a great deal, is the stance that some people within the BDSM community take towards
people who may live in separate countries, yet conduct genuine, meaningful D/s relationships. Someone in the community actually made the assertion last week that my Master and i were simply "playing online", that i am not owned, simply because i am not physically wearing His collar. This thread actually makes a great follow-on from the thread "Feeling owned without being collared" that was posted some days ago. It makes me sad and somewhat appalled that some people within our own community judge a book by its cover, so to speak.

i am not a negative person and hate finger-pointing, however, i am interested to find out what others' views are on this issue. If two people are sincere, love eachother and are committed to eachother, have laid the groundwork for a relationship across the board,which transcends a D/s situation, it doesn't mean that they are "playing online" (i think the reason why i find this particular phrase offensive is the connotation of falseness and duplicity that it has) simply because they might live in separate continents. i think it all depends on what is in the heart of the Dom/Master and the sub/slave. Love is love, trust is trust, no matter what continent
one party may live in. A collar is merely a physical symbol made of leather or steel, the spiritual and emotional bond between Master/slave or Dom/sub is what truly matters.

i guess the statement that i was confronted with last week from a Dom, kind of threw me, as we get enough rubbish from those outside the community that don't always understand the dynamic of D/s or M/s relationships and may leap to awful conclusions of pain and non-consensual acts. It saddens me that there is a degree of prejudice WITHIN the BDSM community when we should all show solidarity, empathy and support one another instead of throwing stones at our own "peeps". There's enough hate out there as it is.