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Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:06:59 AM)
quote: Keep in mind that I was not making judgment on whether or not this man was dominant or not. He was only an example of dangerous individuals who are out here in the BDSM world. Its as simple as that. Please dont read more into my words than is really there. Fair enough. I wasn't really aiming it at you, but thought that in the context of the OP, what I said was relevant. I meant no offense, and hope none was taken.

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:07:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah Seriously what is with all the Negativity? I'm not being "negative"... I'm stating my opinion. If we disagree, we disagree. The fantasty stuff is crap, and too many on the bottom side of the slash pay the price for this. Not all end in death, as another has posted... but certainly it turns many off thinking that being a slave = no life, no job, no goals, no love, no family, no nothing. The net-Dom's warped idea of what it means to be a slave.

Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:08:47 AM)
quote: Wow i was just going to go to sleep and then you chime in with this!!! How excited I am that some one on hear could have such a broad minded POV and open themselves to such a dangerous conversation....KUDOS! Thanks for the Kudos....gotta love kudos[:)]. You've been around here long enough now you should know I am always willing to take a conversation wherever it leads, however dark it may get.

Danemora -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:09:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig Fair enough. I wasn't really aiming it at you, but thought that in the context of the OP, what I said was relevant. I meant no offense, and hope none was taken. No harm no foul, my friend. Tis all in the course of a rousing discussion [:)]

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:10:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: They don't get BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical. The point you are missing here is that to some people BDSM is encapsulated in the physical. Then they'd just spank their own ass. They don't, so clearly it's more than the physical.

crouchingtigress -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:11:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA many read that Castle Realm crap and think that's what this dynamic is about... "Just beat her ass and force your cock down her throat". Where in the hell on Castle Realm did you ever read that? Colm and jade were really all about love until she died and yes I knew them both, you may not care for the site but what was behind it was a very dedicated couple. None of what Colm stood for was about Beating ass and Shoving Cock down Throats, so Now I turn to ask you, where did you get that Idea from? Are you just repeating something else you read somewhere because this is the second time you mentioned Castle Realm. I am Familiar with the ANTI-Castle Realm Kick, it was popular like 6 years ago when Castle Realm was at it's Height, but castle realm has been gone for some 3 years now. the Newbies and Wanna Be's today most of them don't even know what Castle Realm was. Seriously what is with all the Negativity? Steel Hi Steel good to see you again, I agree, there is a big anti CR thing, but is it even still a site anymore? or is the anti rhetoric from folks that have never been there and are just regurgitating what others have said? Castle Realm was NEVER beat her ass and force it down her throat....it was a place of education and indocrination....and thank you for saying what I was thinking out loud. I think when folks say things that are supposed to make them sound like they know what they are talking about, to folks that do, they show their cards, and should probably fold this round.

SimplyMichael -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:13:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA many read that Castle Realm crap and think that's what this dynamic is about... On that, we SO agree, I HATED that website, I really really did. quote: "Just beat her ass and force your cock down her throat". DOUBLE TAKE WHAT THE FUCK? That idiotic website was about FLUFFY dominance, I don't think the word for penis was used in ANY form on the entire site, let alone doing anything as barely fun as throat fucking someone. Oh My God, is Castle Realm becoming a new myth? And like all the rest of the tired bdsm myths, people can't even get it right? Dude, you just keep getting better and better!

Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:13:34 AM)
quote: but certainly it turns many off thinking that being a slave = no life, no job, no goals, no love, no family, no nothing. The net-Dom's warped idea of what it means to be a slave. Why is that idea of what it means to be a slave any less valid than yours? There are those out there to whom that sort of slavery is exactly what they crave, and they search long and hard to find someone to give it to them. Are they not real? Are they fakes simply because you do not agree with their desires? To them, you would be the fake, because you are not willing to take "slavery" to its logical conclusion. From their perspective you would be a mere dillitante, playing at slavery. Can you not see that there is no BDSM rule book. There is no BDSM club, or secret handshake, and there is no one recipe for how to do what it is that we do. In fact we don't even all do the same things.

Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:17:46 AM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: They don't get BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical. The point you are missing here is that to some people BDSM is encapsulated in the physical. Then they'd just spank their own ass. They don't, so clearly it's more than the physical. WTF???? Your reply makes no sense. There are plenty of people involved with the lifestyle who wish no emotional attachments at all, they simply crave the physical aspects of it.

crouchingtigress -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:18:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA quote: My other point is that it does not serve us to judge... See... here's where we disagree. I don't know where this nonsense about not "judging" anything BDSM came about. If a Top was violating another's limits, wouldn't you "judge" that to be poor behavior? If a Top assumed all subs/slaves desired to be locked in a celler and removed from the world, wouldn't you "judge" that to be nutso? If a Top drugged a submissive, wouldn't you "judge" that as wrong? Of course you would. What I'm stating is no different... many read that Castle Realm crap and think that's what this dynamic is about... "Just beat her ass and force your cock down her throat". So yes... I judge those fantasy-net-Doms as fakes. When I say judging does not serve us I am saying "judge" to replace somthing along the lines of : we should not jump to conclusions about another motivation with out all the facts and then make snide or hurtful remarks that that person represents a danger to the community because he is new or because he wants to be a dom or a sub. quote: They don't get BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical. btw to some folks BDSM is encapsulated in the phisical, that does not make them better or worse then those that bdsm is encapsulated in the mental or spiritual......IMHO

GreedyTop -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:23:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: They don't get BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical. The point you are missing here is that to some people BDSM is encapsulated in the physical. Then they'd just spank their own ass. They don't, so clearly it's more than the physical. in YOUR world. you must be fake.

crouchingtigress -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:24:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA many read that Castle Realm crap and think that's what this dynamic is about... On that, we SO agree, I HATED that website, I really really did. quote: "Just beat her ass and force your cock down her throat". DOUBLE TAKE WHAT THE FUCK? That idiotic website was about FLUFFY dominance, I don't think the word for penis was used in ANY form on the entire site, let alone doing anything as barely fun as throat fucking someone. Oh My God, is Castle Realm becoming a new myth? And like all the rest of the tired bdsm myths, people can't even get it right? Dude, you just keep getting better and better! Hi Micheal, I was hoping you would join us because this thread was because I did not want hijack your thread....which was excellent... CR becoming a myth...that could be a thread, and like i was saying to Steel, I dont think its around anymore, AND I dont think folks are remembering it right...it was sweet and "fluffy" and perfect for a newbie....but when you started to play in your local community you would outgrow it fairly quickly.....

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:30:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop in YOUR world. you must be fake. You must be drunk... your response is incoherent. Wanna try that again, sparkles? Explain how BDSM is PURELY PHYSICAL... because if it was, then you'd not need another. People self-harm every day of the week So why seek out another if it's ONLY physical?

variation30 -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:31:26 AM)
oh another one of these threads.

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:35:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress When I say judging does not serve us I am saying "judge" to replace somthing along the lines of : we should not jump to conclusions about another motivation with out all the facts and then make snide or hurtful remarks that that person represents a danger to the community... Again, this is where we disagree... one that does not know what they're doing (and pretends they do) can seriously hurt another.

SimplyMichael -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:37:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress Hi Micheal, I was hoping you would join us because this thread was because I did not want hijack your thread....which was excellent... Thanks! Oh, and on the subject of how we are all fakes, I hope to see you again at SouthWest Leather next year! Cross your fingers for me, I am under consideration to present at my first major event, very excited. Well on my way toward my goal of presenting at SWLC in 2011. But we are all fakes and anonymous so please don't tell anyone I met you.

GreedyTop -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:37:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop in YOUR world. you must be fake. You must be drunk... your response is incoherent. Wanna try that again, sparkles? Explain how BDSM is PURELY PHYSICAL... because if it was, then you'd not need another. People self-harm every day of the week So why seek out another if it's ONLY physical? ok, skippy... Bondage Discipline Sadism Masochism. tell me how that IS NOT physical? and most people that self-harm have mental health issues that I do not have. Care to try again?

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:38:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael DOUBLE TAKE WHAT THE FUCK? That idiotic website was about FLUFFY dominance... It had stupid shit on there about "100 Rules for Slaves" and crap like that; I don't remember the exact title. And I'm not a "dude".

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:46:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop Care to try again? Sure, since you didn't get it the first time... read SLOWLY, this time. I stated, "They don't get BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical"; i.e., there's more to BDSM than JUST the physical. If it were, then you wouldn't need another as you could hit yourself and get the same outcome. So it's clearly MORE than just the physical.

Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:46:53 AM)
quote: Explain how BDSM is PURELY PHYSICAL... because if it was, then you'd not need another. People self-harm every day of the week So why seek out another if it's ONLY physical? OK, since you asked, I will explain it. I am at present, not interested in a relationship. My reasons are many and legion, but suffice to say I am not looking. However, I am a Dominant and a Sadist, and I would very much enjoy tieing up some woman and beating her ass, then fucking her three-or-four ways to next Sunday. For me, at this point in my life, BDSM consists of a purely physical attraction. I would love to engage in some kinky sex, but would not really want any sort of relationship. Now, because I answered your question (and because turnabout is fair play), you answer mine: How can I fulfill my desires without another? How can I meet my wants & needs on my own?

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