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Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/1/2009 4:19:40 PM)

Sarah Palin Poll Numbers Takes A Nosedive In Alaska
After her resignation from office, a plurality of Alaskans now have a negative view of Sarah Palin, according to a Hays Research Group poll conducted July 29-30.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/07/31/2016643.aspx




Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/1/2009 8:11:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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it doesn't really matter if it is a man or a woman, people who hunt are more likely to do violent acts towards other humans, whether it is the man or a woman doing the hunting. People who hunt, in general, are more likely to be violent. If you can kill an animal you are more likely to kill a human.
Bull!! Got anything to back that up, or are you just pulling a willbuer?

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In terms of politics, for me it's relevant as to worthiness because in her case she will end up starting another war with Iran or North Korea, or maybe she would start another Cold War with the godless Russians. In any case, I maintain she's dangerous because she's stupid. I am not personally afraid of her, I think she's a nice lady, it is good that she has compassion in not wanting to abort a baby. But if she believes these Bible prophecies where Jesus is going to come back after some violent events in the Middle East then she is dangerous. Never mind about global warming and her not believing in global warming and destroying the planet. But that's another topic
You see, here is where we differ. I don't think she is in the least bit dangerous, as I don't think she has a snowball's chance in Hell of ever being elected to a position of real power.



you're probably right that she won't get elected president but I think it's possible she could win the Republican nomination. It's unlikely she will become president but it is possible. At least with George Bush I didn't think he was not qualified
before he got the nomination, with Sarah I already believe she's not qualified.

As to the first point, I got it a little mixed up but I think I had the general idea right and this is what I came up with. By the way, saying I pulled a willburer, should I think I've been insulted? Well, I don't think I agree with him on many issues but I won't go as far as to say that I've been insulted.

Back again to the first point. I did conflate violence against animals with hunting. I guess I sort of thought hunting wild
animals was like violence against animals like dogs and Micheal Vick. But this is what I came up with below:

The Humane society of the United States
First Strike: The Connection Between Animal Cruelty and Human Violence

The First Strike campaign was created in 1997 to raise public and professional awareness about the connection between animal cruelty and other violent crime violence and to help communities identify some of the origins of violence, predict its patterns, and prevent its escalation.
http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/first_strike_the_connection_between_animal_cruelty_and_human_violence/


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This study examined the relationship between hunting and illegal violence among college males. Although similar on many socio-demographic characteristics such as age and social class (parents' education and occupation), hunters were more likely than non-hunters to be white and Protestant. They also were more likely to have grown up with a family member who hunted. Hunters were about twice as likely to have been violent toward nonhuman animals; however, one type of violence—killing wild or stray animals—accounted for this difference. Regarding violence toward people, hunters were more than twice as likely to have damaged or destroyed private or public property during their last year in high school but were no more likely during that year to have fought with other persons. Thus, at least for this sample, hunting related to harming animals in the wild and to property damage but not to other forms of animal abuse or violence against humans. This paper discusses possible explanations for this result and limitations of the study.


http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/saa/2002/00000010/00000002/art00002?crawler=true




Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/3/2009 6:19:11 PM)

Sarah Palin Resurfaces to Support NRA

Sarah Palin made her first public appearance since resigning as Alaska governor at a National Rifle Association (NRA) event Saturday night in Anchorage. Palin gave a "stirring" speech on the Second Amendment right to bear arms, according to the group.

According to the NRA, Palin's speech to 130 people was the highlight of a four-day Gun Collectors Seminar. (The event was closed to press, so Palin's remarks are not available; details of the event are from the NRA's blog.)

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/03/sarah-palin-speaks-at-gun-rights-gathering-in-alaska/




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/3/2009 7:08:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain



you're probably right that she won't get elected president but I think it's possible she could win the Republican nomination.


She wont win the nomination, but if she did she would win. Things will be in such chaos in the Dem party and the country by then that Bush could win again. (Yes, I know it would take a Constitutional amendment. I was being hyperbolic.)




SilverMark -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/4/2009 3:28:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Brain



you're probably right that she won't get elected president but I think it's possible she could win the Republican nomination.


She wont win the nomination, but if she did she would win. Things will be in such chaos in the Dem party and the country by then that Bush could win again. (Yes, I know it would take a Constitutional amendment. I was being hyperbolic.)

Not to mention delusional....




Lucylastic -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/4/2009 3:31:14 PM)

Silver Mark, you are much adored, lafffin
Lucy




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/4/2009 5:23:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Brain



you're probably right that she won't get elected president but I think it's possible she could win the Republican nomination.


She wont win the nomination, but if she did she would win. Things will be in such chaos in the Dem party and the country by then that Bush could win again. (Yes, I know it would take a Constitutional amendment. I was being hyperbolic.)

Not to mention delusional....



When 2012 rolls around we'll see who is delusional. Until then, you are entitled to your own prognostications. At least mine are based on the reality of the fall in confidence for OB's policies and an understanding of where his "vision" is likely to lead based on the preponderance of historical evidence. Yours are apparently based on "hope and change"...so who is more delusional at this point in time?




Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 11:27:41 AM)

Palin Accused in Federal Court of Attempted Bribery

Ex-governor Sarah Palin stands accused of the federal crime of attempted bribery in addition to violating the Alaskan constitution, in connection to a lawsuit previously filed against Palin. The Plaintiffs, who filed the amendment to their original lawsuit in federal court on Aug 3, 2009, allege that Palin offered state funds and support of legislation to third parties in exchange for those parties convincing Plaintiffs to drop their original lawsuit in federal or state court.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/node/7052




SilverMark -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 11:44:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Brain



you're probably right that she won't get elected president but I think it's possible she could win the Republican nomination.


She wont win the nomination, but if she did she would win. Things will be in such chaos in the Dem party and the country by then that Bush could win again. (Yes, I know it would take a Constitutional amendment. I was being hyperbolic.)

Not to mention delusional....



When 2012 rolls around we'll see who is delusional. Until then, you are entitled to your own prognostications. At least mine are based on the reality of the fall in confidence for OB's policies and an understanding of where his "vision" is likely to lead based on the preponderance of historical evidence. Yours are apparently based on "hope and change"...so who is more delusional at this point in time?

If you think the Alaskan Princess can be elected....please throw ALL of your support behind her.....I am certain she will do you proud as your standard bearer...
As soon as she removes both feet from her mouth!...I have a feeling she couldn't get elected Dog Catcher of Wasilla at the present time....and if she did she'd probably resign soon after....accusing the dogs of Gotcha' Journalism.
If your prognostications are correct, of Obama's eminent failure then the Republicans could still lose by running Palin...she isn't capable nor does she handle herself well enough on the national stage to be elected. Had you said Romney or Huckabee or someone else of a more capable nature I would not have typed a word....but Palin?....
laughable at best!




FirmhandKY -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 11:46:16 AM)

And she'll be found innocent of this as well.

You really should invite her to out sometime, Brain. Your infatuation with her is getting out of control.

Firm




TheHeretic -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 11:52:42 AM)

Yet somehow it remains considered a legitimate political discussion...




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 11:57:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

please throw ALL of your support behind her.....


Never have and never will and already said there is now way should could get the nomination, so rant on.

Meanwhile a deaf dumb and blind dogcatcher will be seen as more capable than OB if he keeps on his current course.




rulemylife -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 12:07:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

And she'll be found innocent of this as well.

You really should invite her to out sometime, Brain. Your infatuation with her is getting out of control.

Firm


Yes, you've accused me of that too before.

Which is funny, because for some this woman can do no wrong.

No matter what she says or does.

I swear, I think if she put a gun to Todd's head while he was sleeping we would have people claiming it was a non-news story and saying she was only doing her patriotic duty by exercising her Second Amendment rights.




SilverMark -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 12:29:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

And she'll be found innocent of this as well.

You really should invite her to out sometime, Brain. Your infatuation with her is getting out of control.

Firm

If it gets to that.....seems the charges are far fetched at best....Reading a few of the other articles that are posted on the site used it dosen't seem as a reliable source.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 12:52:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

And she'll be found innocent of this as well.

You really should invite her to out sometime, Brain. Your infatuation with her is getting out of control.

Firm


Yes, you've accused me of that too before.

Which is funny, because for some this woman can do no wrong.

No matter what she says or does.

I swear, I think if she put a gun to Todd's head while he was sleeping we would have people claiming it was a non-news story and saying she was only doing her patriotic duty by exercising her Second Amendment rights.


*shrugs* No accusation. Statement of a simple fact.

She's no longer in public office. She's made no claims to be running for public office. You and many other on the left say she's not, and never will be a threat.

What's the draw that keeps you and Brain constantly posting about her?

The health debate not enough for you?

The "right wing conspiracy" against the Obama Health Care Plan not interesting enough for you (no, wait, it's the Health Insurance Plan now, right?)?

The call for snitches by the White House doesn't interest you?

The recent Supreme Court nomination didn't have enough red meat?

This thread should have died at least a week ago, but Brain keeps comin' on back, postin' more and more "interesting facts" about Palin, and you keep readin' it.

Sounds like infatuation to me. Or obsession.

Firm




Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/8/2009 3:14:26 PM)

I'm not infatuated with her. I would like to see her on Saturday night live again. I want to see Tina Fay do her on TV again. I think it's funny. So I guess to answer your question what draws me back to her, it must be humor.

Unless she does a 360 like Britney Spears did recently I don't see her going anywhere politically. Maybe she can endorse Mike Huckabee.




SilverMark -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/9/2009 3:04:24 AM)

Hey Firm.....I wouldn't vote for her but "I'd do her".....does that count? hoping I am not obsessed....just thinking she's a milf!....




FirmhandKY -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/9/2009 8:28:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Hey Firm.....I wouldn't vote for her but "I'd do her".....does that count? hoping I am not obsessed....just thinking she's a milf!....

Wanting to "do her" is fine. That's an adult recognition of a fact.

It's when someone wants to "do her", but can't acknowledge it, and it bugs them, so they do all kinds of stuff to keep her in the limelight.

It's kinda like when we were kids, and liked a girl, but couldn't bring ourselves to tell her, but we sure could pull her pigtails, and yell out "cooties!" to her on the playground.

Not smart, nor productive, but we had to do something to express our infatuation.

Firm




Brain -> RE: Palin Attended Church Event With Samurai Sword Ceremony (8/13/2009 10:18:41 AM)

She is a joke = funny. And that's it period.............
I could care less to do her




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