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tazzygirl -> RE: Explain to me online training ? (7/28/2009 8:00:35 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso
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ORIGINAL: lustycat
ok, i don't know what to say now. i feel that the ones living online are being attacked here. we are living a lifestyle just as people do in real life.
Ok, I accept my last comment was possibly a bit counterproductive, so to try and counter that.
BoiJen has not attacked anybody personally in this thread. At all. I disagree with her and I'm dubious about the validity of the cited studies due to their methodology. But she's consistantly attacked the idea of online relationships, not the individuals. She's debated assertively and possibly aggressively at times, but that's entirely valid. Worse she's done is make a few snarky comments. And this pot is not going to start talking about that kettle.
If you want to defend your relationships, fine. But do it in the same way. Attack her arguments, not her. Apart from anything else, your tactics were really bad from your point of view. Because while I'm actually closer to her view than yours, before I really wished that wasn't the case.
And if you haven't read the studies she linked to, do so. You can't successfully argue against something unless you know what it's saying.
I did try and read the studies... anytime i tried to click on a link i got this response
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If you do not have a User Name and Password, click the "Register to Purchase" button below to purchase this article.
Price: US $ 31.50
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Problematic Internet use and psychosocial well-being: development of a theory-based cognitive–behavioral measurement instrument
References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article.
Scott E. Caplan,
Department of Communication, University of Delaware, 250 Pearson Hall, Newark, DE 19716, USA
Available online 20 June 2002.
Abstract
The paper presents results from an exploratory study that: (1) developed a theory-based measure of PIU and (2) administered the instrument to a sample of undergraduate students to assess the associations among PIU and several psychosocial variables including, depression, self-esteem, loneliness, and shyness. A new instrument, the Generalized Problematic Internet Use Scale (GPIUS) was designed to operationalize Davis's [Computers in Human Behavior, 17 (2001), 187] theoretical construct of generalized PIU. The GPIUS and several measures of psychosocial well-being were administered to 386 undergraduate students. Results from this preliminary study indicate that the GPIUS is both reliable and valid. A factor analysis identified seven unique sub-dimensions of the GPIUS, including: mood alteration, perceived social benefits available online, negative outcomes associated with Internet use, compulsive Internet use, excessive amounts of time spent online, withdrawal symptoms when away from the Internet, and perceived social control available online. All GPIUS subscales were correlated with psychosocial health variables including: depression, loneliness, shyness, and self-esteem. A regression analysis identified several important psychosocial and cognitive–behavioral predictors of negative outcomes associated with generalized PIU. Results also suggest that one's preference for computer-mediated social interaction, as opposed to face-to-face interaction, plays a role in the etiology, development, and outcomes of generalized PIU.
Thats from the second link. and its all the information that is available without paying for the rest. what i did find interesting was the implication that on line relationships are only sexual. hmmm... i spent alot of time listening to him talk about his children, his work, his ex wife, what foods he liked to eat, what his plans for the future were, my role in those plans, he asked alot about my day, my child, my work... we both worked crazy hours so we would go days without talking except through email, and catch up on weekends.
my meaning here is that it isnt always about sex, just like it wasnt when i moved in. these studies - studies like this one, i am assuming since i cannot see the results - were used in congressional hearings during the fight of internet porn.
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It may seem surprising that, at this juncture, I should speak of "chemicals", when one might be thinking instead of "sex." But, in fact, modern science allows us to understand that the underlying nature of an addiction to pornography is chemically nearly identical to a heroin addiction: Only the delivery system is different, and the sequence of steps. That is why heroin addicts in particular give up sex and routinely compare their "rushes" to "orgasms".
The chemistry involved is as follows: Upon viewing or reading the "expression", the pornography addict experiences an irresistible impulse to self-stimulation. Not so upon reading Melville, or Batman or The Washington Post. For the addict, this impulse has become more intense from pornography than from people he loves or who love him, and also requires ever more extreme forms of pornographic expression to achieve the same level of pleasure. Upon achieving climax, the brain releases opioids-chemicals that are the naturally occurring analogs to synthetic opiates such as morphine or heroin.
It is to ever higher levels of these opioids that the pornography addict has become addicted in tandem with the delivery system that ensures their release. Indeed, he-and today, with the internet, in ever increasing numbers, she-has become part of that delivery system-along with the pornographic "expression" itself. The pornography addict soon forgets about everything and everyone else in favor of an ever more elusive sexual jolt. He will eventually be able to find it only among other "junkies" like himself, and he will place at risk his career, his friends, his family. He will indulge his habit anywhere and everywhere, at any time. No one, no matter how highly placed, is immune. And like all other addicts, the pornography addict will lie to cover it up, heedless of risk or cost to himself or to others.
In the year 2000, ABC-NEWS.com cooperated with the journal CyberPsychology & Behavior in a survey of 17,251 individuals. They found that 6% of those surveyed met formal criteria for a full-fledged internet pornography addiction. Another survey found that 41% of corporations had disciplined or terminated employees within the previous year because of severe problems with internet pornography. The next largest problem was chat rooms at 12%-and many of these involved sexual chat. All other internet problems were much less consequential, and at lower percentages, even gambling. These studies are but the mere tip of an ever growing iceberg.
http://www.discoveryacademy.com/about/resources/senate_hearing_porn4.php
now, some may ask how did i link the two.
well, boi's third site did give me some information. in my attempt to find an actual study and its results that i didnt have to pay for, i discovered the following
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CyberPsychology & Behavior
Psychological Characteristics of Compulsive Internet Use: A Preliminary Analysis
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To cite this article:
DAVID N. GREENFIELD. CyberPsychology & Behavior. OCTOBER 1999, 2(5): 403-412. doi:10.1089/cpb.1999.2.403.
snagging the name above, i found this site on a yahoo search engine
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U.S. Senate Hearing Testimony on Pornography Part 4
http://www.discoveryacademy.com/about/resources/senate_hearing_porn4.php
i am not implying boi was leading anyone down a road. having found this, i have to wonder why these studies were done, who originally paid for them, and was the outcome for mental health or only to give strength to the movement to curtail internet access to porn.
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