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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 9:10:24 PM

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Not true. There actually was a Supreme Court case (Lawson v Kolender) that clarified that police cannot even stop you to ask for ID unless they have a specific reason to do so.

Your ignorance is showing. It happens all the time in California. I've known plenty of people it's happened to. You need to get out more. The world is much bigger than whatever you learned in a textbook.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/30/2009 10:15:18 PM

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...I don't think it is illegal to not have identification...

here in California if you are going to go out and about...even on foot...and are asked by law enforcement officials to provide documentation to support your claim of who you are...you are required by law to oblige...or you will be taking a ride down to the local PD station where you will remain until they determine who you are. so it's a good idea to at least have an ID card of some sort, just in case they stop you to ask if you have seen run past a hit and run driver who abandoned their vehicle after the accident down the street, or some such thing.

this slave thinks it would also be a good idea to legally change one's name to the owner's as well. this slave's name reflects the fact that she belongs to Him...in a strictly legal sense, it was changed when this slave became HIS wife, as He gave her HIS last name.

Merde sainte... we don't even have -that- level of police-state in TEXAS!

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Actually in every state, if asked by law enforcement for ID, and you are an adult, you will need to produce either the ID or a really good reason for not having one.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/31/2009 4:28:14 PM

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I once was owned (in contract and mind only) by a woman who thought about this question a lot. She was a certified psychiatrist and was actually talking to me one evening (she used to lock me in the cage in the dark and have these fantasy conversations with me while sitting outside the cage and whispering in the dark) about having me declared insane or incompetent and then released to her care. She was never actually serious about it, but she kept talking about how the "paperwork" was almost done and it would be happening any day now.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/31/2009 7:14:22 PM

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Get pregnant and have a um - you will legally be a slave till they turn 21.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/31/2009 10:24:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: cadenas

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...I don't think it is illegal to not have identification...

here in California if you are going to go out and about...even on foot...and are asked by law enforcement officials to provide documentation to support your claim of who you are...you are required by law to oblige...

Not true. There actually was a Supreme Court case (Lawson v Kolender) that clarified that police cannot even stop you to ask for ID unless they have a specific reason to do so.

And that case actually originated in San Diego, so it definitely covers California.

Also, as a US citizen you are not required to carry ID, and police cannot hold not having an ID against you. So even if police does legally stop and ask you for your name and ID for a specific reason, they cannot take you to the police station for not having an ID. On the other hand, they CAN take you to the station for having an ID and refusing to show it, or for lying about having an ID. So if you just got out of the driver's seat of a car, telling an officer "my name is John Smith, and I don't have any ID" is probably a bad idea.

Foreign citizens are required to carry their immigration documents at all times.

There may very well be case law, or a de jure prohibition against requiring citizens to produce ID upon demand.
However, in the real world, the de facto situation is different. That "specific reason" can be that they wanted to make you miserable, for all the good it would do while you are on your way to the cop shop to explain your life's story to a bunch of jackbooted thugs.
Telling a LEO anything more than "I have nothing to say" is probably a bad idea. Or at least that is what my attorney has always advised me to do. When questioned or arrested, just STFU, call him, and don't talk to a soul until he gets there. So, that's what I do.
After all, even the D-types among us should be able to survive a few hours of "bondage" at the cop shop.
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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 7/31/2009 11:01:54 PM

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Never mind, I should have read the whole thread before posting HarryVanWinkle beat me to it.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 4:28:24 AM

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Get pregnant and have a um - you will legally be a slave till they turn 21.

Or easier yet.... have a domestic cat in your house. (I was gonna say "own a cat" but it was very clear at 5o'clock this morning that it I who am truly owned by the feline)

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 5:00:31 AM

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I know this is off the radar, but I am going back to the orignal thread.. (yes we are slaves to our pets lol)

I know that the UN has been involved in finding and exposing slavery in other countries. I do not know any where in the world where slavery is legal as being supported by the laws on the country you would live in , but the indentured servent might be as close as possiable to get. In India for ex, they have had shown that some families who were in debted to someone , would send their children to work off their bills. Leaving home and forced to work in the factories until the debt is paid off.. This can last years and does onvolve someone else controlling their living and work life. But eventually you get to leave.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 9:45:35 AM

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You seem to be talking about physical slavery. In my M/s relationship my owner owns my heart, soul and body to do with as he sees fit. Even in the real world of slavery only the physical is owned. Our relationships in the BDSM goes beyond this physical ownership into the mental. Even slaves do not have the depth of ownership we have. Give all and you will reach the level you wish to reach.

enya slave of MASTER Fred

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 12:22:03 PM

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You seem to be talking about physical slavery. In my M/s relationship my owner owns my heart, soul and body to do with as he sees fit. Even in the real world of slavery only the physical is owned. Our relationships in the BDSM goes beyond this physical ownership into the mental. Even slaves do not have the depth of ownership we have. Give all and you will reach the level you wish to reach.

enya slave of MASTER Fred

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 1:19:43 PM

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The court can name a legal guardian over you.
They then have full and total control over you. Not easy to get. But,it can be done.
In some countries it is very easy to do.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 10:48:54 PM

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...Not true. There actually was a Supreme Court case (Lawson v Kolender) that clarified that police cannot even stop you to ask for ID unless they have a specific reason to do so...

is true. they can come up with whatever reason they want to stop you...and have. this slave has been stopped for failing to stop at a stop sign by an officer who couldn't even see her as she stopped...and had to provide all the documentation required for operating a motor vehicle---including a driver's license. it might not be the law, as it is written...but it is the reality as this slave has experienced it.

Umm... Of course when DRIVING you have to carry a driver's license! At least in California (and presumably in most states). It's unfortunate that the driver's license doubles as an ID to the point that people are thinking "ID" when it really means "license to drive".

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 11:03:53 PM

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For a woman to own a man the easiest way would be to have sex with him, let him cum inside you and then scratch him with your nails. Then report him to the police that he raped you. They will take a semen sample and skin sample from your nails and then he is a wanted man. If he leaves or wont accept your complete control over him call the police and tell them that he came back and that he tried to rape you again. He can either serve you or the prison guards and cell mate. Another way is to apply for multiple credit cards in his name and use the money for his new chastity belt, restraints, or whatever you like. He is financially ruined and won't be able to support himself. Report him for credit card fraud. You then let him hide out from the police at your house as long as he does what he is told.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 11:06:10 PM

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wtf?

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/1/2009 11:57:33 PM

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WTF isn't enough here! You give women a bad name and true victims of rape a harder time of being believed. That is the stupidest thing I have heard on these boards lately. Part of what you said was unlawful too. You might consider not talking.

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ORIGINAL: DaintyDemure

For a woman to own a man the easiest way would be to have sex with him, let him cum inside you and then scratch him with your nails. Then report him to the police that he raped you. They will take a semen sample and skin sample from your nails and then he is a wanted man. If he leaves or wont accept your complete control over him call the police and tell them that he came back and that he tried to rape you again. He can either serve you or the prison guards and cell mate. Another way is to apply for multiple credit cards in his name and use the money for his new chastity belt, restraints, or whatever you like. He is financially ruined and won't be able to support himself. Report him for credit card fraud. You then let him hide out from the police at your house as long as he does what he is told.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/2/2009 12:00:29 AM

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Lockit... i truly had no clue what to say! my god! a look at the profile gives a hint. but i honestly would have problems with any Dominant thinking this line of thinking was in any way appropriate or submissive!

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/2/2009 12:03:22 AM

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She's most likely stirring a pot... but just the idea of that shit... wow...

Okay... he is stirring the pot... his own fantasy or relationship thing. Dude... you don't even pretend that kind of shit.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/2/2009 12:14:38 AM

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I agree...tis filing a false police report and forenics has a way of telling if a woman has been raped or not by the trauma sustained.

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/2/2009 2:09:20 AM

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Damn it tazzy, I clicked on this thread for the express purpose of saying what you said first. Fuck! What a cockblock.

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quickest way? join the Military

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RE: How does on legally become a slave? - 8/2/2009 8:37:17 AM

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I just wanted to share the experience of a real member of the US military with a couple people on here who obviously have no clue what they're talking about. We have an all-volunteer military. In fact, very few countries left in the world have a policy of compulsory military service. And unlike slavery, the pay is very competitive for many fields. I have a feeling that most other major military forces are very similar to ours in their obligations and terms.

If you enlist in the US Military, it's for a fixed term, and you sit down with someone and review the terms and conditions before you begin. You do have the option of quitting, and like a great many civilian jobs in this country, if you accept training, which can cost between $50k and $100k, the government will insist that you pay off your debt by working for them for a certain amount of time. Dish network does this. Most trucking companies do this.

If you take a commission as an officer in the US Military, you can essentialy quit at any time by resigning your commission. But again, you may owe the government some time if you accepted an expensive school.

You are free to move around the country, change your duty station, even go from reserve to active duty to IRR (that's basically being a civilian with a few catches) whenever you want. Obviously you can't do this every month, but you can't do this as a civilian either unless you want to run the fast food circuit forever.

My specialty is chemical weapons. I went to a very expensive school and I owed the Army two years as a result.

It's easy to badmouth the military if you have never experienced it. I figure some of you have a lot of other things in life left to discover too. I'm giving you an opportunity to learn something new right now. Slavery is having your decisions and freedom taken away from you. If you really want to experience that, try getting hooked on meth, or get a felony sexual offense conviction, or move to Manhattan and get a $10/hr job. You will quickly learn what it's like to have all your decisions made for you. The military does nothing but expand your freedoms and responsibilities.

And never forget that we are putting our lives on the line to preserve your freedom to talk shit about us. You can expect some feedback if you do it in our presence.

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