RE: Real Astroturf vs. The Fake Stuff

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: Real Astroturf vs. The Fake Stuff

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Real Astroturf vs. The Fake Stuff

Page: << < prev 4 5 6 [7] 8 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Real Astroturf vs. The Fake Stuff - 8/8/2009 9:29:21 AM

FirmhandKY

Posts: 8948
Joined: 9/21/2004
Status: offline

FR:

Updated info:

The clip about Carnahan being heckled wasn't even from this meeting, but from an earlier meeting (a couple of good videos from that one too).

Here is another first person account of inside the "Aging" town hall where all the excitement did occur:

Russ Carnahan Aging in America Town Hall - South St. Louis County :

ACORN, SEIU, Clean Energy for America and other St Louis union members were there. My guess is the crowd was about 50/50. Their side continually “sssshhhhhed” us. Our side stood often and turned their backs to the podium.

After the pledge of allegiance (which we said with more pride) Russ took plenty of time to intro his organizers and staff and mention all of the Democrat elected officials present. We had to shout and point to Republican State Rep Walt Bivins to get him acknowledged by the congressman.

There was a large panel of presenters telling us how to get into the government system that currently assists the elderly. Russ sat at the end of the panel table with that same old blank look on his face.

The emcee reminded us often to show respect and if we weren’t interested we could leave. That really offended me – I pay property taxes in that school district unlike most of the democrat thugs they shipped in.

...

When the panelists finally finished – Russ got up and huddled with a few police and plain clothes security guys. The emcee said “okay we will now take questions”. And she began to read the first pre-written question. It was a three parter of softballs with the third part saying something like “Thank you Rep Carnahan for all of your hard work…” I couldn’t hear the rest over the boos of the crowd.

Russ stepped to the podium to answer the question over the shouting – and then – then – then – he looked at his watch…. And then announced he would answer this question but then he had an interview downtown to get to……. If anyone wanted to stay the panel would be happy to answer more questions….

CARNAHAN SNEAKS OUT THE BACK DOOR (1.13 video).

Seems to me that some in the audience were a slight bit unruly, but that the real booing and razzing didn't start until Carnahan decided that he was just going to leave, and ignored the repeated question of "Are you on the plan?"

The panelists got to speak and have their say. But Carnahan wasn't interested in actually ... you know ... talking with his citizens.

And it appears that most of the "bussed in" members of the audience weren't even his constituents, but "astro-turfed" supporters from outside his district.

Again, he wasn't interested in anyone's "free speech". He was stacking the deck, keeping his own citizens at a distance, stonewalling, and avoiding legitimate questions.

In fact, when the event didn't go according to his script, he just left.

He's interested in a debate or "free speech"? Doubtful.

Firm

_____________________________

Some people are just idiots.

(in reply to FirmhandKY)