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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/16/2013 9:37:19 AM   
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Yeah, Misty woke me up at 3 A.M.. then went back to sleep. Fortunately, I was able to as well. Nature called at 6:30 A.M., which is their normal feeding time, so I fed them. They were kind enough to let me go back to bed.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/22/2013 9:07:03 AM   
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Poor 17 1/2 year old Misty just came home from the vet and is hiding under that bed after that traumatic experience. She got shots and another set of bloodwork done. The vet now suspects hyperthyroidism in addition to CRF, as her weight has dropped. I'll learn more on Monday when the lab results come in.

Angel finally decided to go out today. She hasn't like the heat and humidity lately and this is the first time she's asked to go out in several days.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/22/2013 9:36:01 AM   
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Mystic, I am sorry to hear of Misty's troubles. Hyperthyroidsm and CFR often go hand in hand.

It sure can be a challenge find low-protein foods a cat will eat when they have CRF, so we don't further damage their kidneys. With hyperthyroidism also causing weight loss it's like a double whammy, but treating the hyperthyroidism will certainly help, and experiment with different low-protein foods until you find what works.

If you haven't already checked out the Yahoo Group devoted to cats with kidney disease, here it is. They're pretty phenomenal, and Vets actually post there and answer people's questions. The place is FULL of valuable information:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/

Love, kisses and hugs to you and Misty from me.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/22/2013 10:12:27 AM   
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Thanks, Dusky :) Misty and I appreciate the well wishes.

I joined that Yahoo group this time last year, when she was first diagnosed with CRF, and have found it very helpful.

Unfortunately, Misty completely rejects the prescription catfood that she is supposed to be eating. She'll reject it even if it's mixed with something else. As I told the vet, I have found exactly one catfood that she will eat that stays down. All other catfoods she either turns her nose up at or don't stay down. I'm thankful she will at least eat that one.




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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/22/2013 11:17:03 PM   
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This isn't my cat, but she seems to be having an awesome time!!

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/23/2013 6:54:24 AM   
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Thanks, Dusky :) Misty and I appreciate the well wishes.

I joined that Yahoo group this time last year, when she was first diagnosed with CRF, and have found it very helpful.

Unfortunately, Misty completely rejects the prescription catfood that she is supposed to be eating. She'll reject it even if it's mixed with something else. As I told the vet, I have found exactly one catfood that she will eat that stays down. All other catfoods she either turns her nose up at or don't stay down. I'm thankful she will at least eat that one.



Good, sweetie, I forgot I gave it to you. I really feel for you and Misty. Stay strong, both of you.

Sorry about not eating the Rx food. As you're learning, only to well, one of the hardest things w/CRF kitties is food and eating/not eating it.

For those who don't know what the heck we're talking about with cat's who have Chronic Renal Failure. Kidney's have so many important jobs; they concentrate urine, filter waste products, regulate electrolytes, create a hormone that stimulates the bone marrow to create red blood cells, and produce renin, which controls blood pressure.

Cats can have kidney disease for a loooooong time before most folks notice, because the signs/symptoms may be subtle for a long while, and they hide their illness well. By the time most people realize there's a problem, usually 70% of the kidney is destroyed, and the cat's basically being poisoned to death by its own waste products.

One of the main symptoms is increased thirst. They need more water intake because their kidneys are damaged, can longer concentrate urine, and needs lots more water than normal to remove waste. They get so dehydrated and need to drink a lot of water, which makes them pee a lot, which makes them need more water. The cat can't drink enough to make up for the water they're losing. Increased water consumption and increased peeing are two of many possible symptoms.

Chronic Kidney Failure cannot be cured, but with a good bit of luck, might be managed, and it is not easy. You've got to get, and keep, the cat hydrated enough. They need a diet of low phosphorous, high Potassium and low quantity, high quality protein. Most of what we feed our cats is low quality protein, which damages kidneys. They get put on a "Kidney Diet," that controls other substances that may be too high or too low in them such as salt, magnesium and B vitamins.

Cats are notoriously sensitive and don't like sudden changes even when their well, especially with their food. Getting them to eat the new food can be the hardest thing of all. They've already lost weight due to the disease, are weak and feel like shit and probably aren't eating well, because the toxins build up in their system, and their Potassium is too low, which makes them weak and their muscles painful. Not the best time to have to suddenly change their diet to something that is less palatable, and different from what they're used to. The BEST success comes from a VERY gradual change.

It's a rough disease, and heart-breaking for the owner. It's like walking on a tightrope. My heart goes out to sick kitties and their Mom's and Dad's.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/23/2013 4:40:05 PM   
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My two cats are hiding from the dog.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/23/2013 5:42:24 PM   
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Thanks, Dusky :) Misty and I appreciate the well wishes.

I joined that Yahoo group this time last year, when she was first diagnosed with CRF, and have found it very helpful.

Unfortunately, Misty completely rejects the prescription catfood that she is supposed to be eating. She'll reject it even if it's mixed with something else. As I told the vet, I have found exactly one catfood that she will eat that stays down. All other catfoods she either turns her nose up at or don't stay down. I'm thankful she will at least eat that one.



Good, sweetie, I forgot I gave it to you. I really feel for you and Misty. Stay strong, both of you.

Sorry about not eating the Rx food. As you're learning, only to well, one of the hardest things w/CRF kitties is food and eating/not eating it.

For those who don't know what the heck we're talking about with cat's who have Chronic Renal Failure. Kidney's have so many important jobs; they concentrate urine, filter waste products, regulate electrolytes, create a hormone that stimulates the bone marrow to create red blood cells, and produce renin, which controls blood pressure.

Cats can have kidney disease for a loooooong time before most folks notice, because the signs/symptoms may be subtle for a long while, and they hide their illness well. By the time most people realize there's a problem, usually 70% of the kidney is destroyed, and the cat's basically being poisoned to death by its own waste products.

One of the main symptoms is increased thirst. They need more water intake because their kidneys are damaged, can longer concentrate urine, and needs lots more water than normal to remove waste. They get so dehydrated and need to drink a lot of water, which makes them pee a lot, which makes them need more water. The cat can't drink enough to make up for the water they're losing. Increased water consumption and increased peeing are two of many possible symptoms.

Chronic Kidney Failure cannot be cured, but with a good bit of luck, might be managed, and it is not easy. You've got to get, and keep, the cat hydrated enough. They need a diet of low phosphorous, high Potassium and low quantity, high quality protein. Most of what we feed our cats is low quality protein, which damages kidneys. They get put on a "Kidney Diet," that controls other substances that may be too high or too low in them such as salt, magnesium and B vitamins.

Cats are notoriously sensitive and don't like sudden changes even when their well, especially with their food. Getting them to eat the new food can be the hardest thing of all. They've already lost weight due to the disease, are weak and feel like shit and probably aren't eating well, because the toxins build up in their system, and their Potassium is too low, which makes them weak and their muscles painful. Not the best time to have to suddenly change their diet to something that is less palatable, and different from what they're used to. The BEST success comes from a VERY gradual change.

It's a rough disease, and heart-breaking for the owner. It's like walking on a tightrope. My heart goes out to sick kitties and their Mom's and Dad's.


Yes, it is a rough disease, and unfortunately, not that uncommon. A friend's kitty was just diagnosed and he's only 7. Two other friends lost their cats to CRF, one at age 12 and one at age 14. As I recall, there was a person who posted here who lost her cat to CRF at age 5.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/23/2013 6:12:13 PM   
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Yes, CRF is usually a disease of older cats, but we're seeing it more in younger ones these days. I've known one as young as 2 yrs. old. It's one of the reasons why when your cat goes in for a dental, surgery or its yearly checkup, it's a good idea to get some blood work done, and find out their kidney values (among others) are okay. Bloodwork can identify kidney problems way before symptoms show.

My reason for posting all that info is to raise people's awareness. The symptoms are so subtle most people wouldn't think twice about a cat that drinks/pees more. Hopefully, that info will help it to be recognized before it's too late. It a horrible, heartbreaking and exhausting disease for pet and owner.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/23/2013 6:38:35 PM   
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The kittens are under the table attacking my purse, one cat is staring at them,the other is walking around like he owns the place.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/24/2013 11:42:52 PM   
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Poor 17 1/2 year old Misty just came home from the vet and is hiding under that bed after that traumatic experience. She got shots and another set of bloodwork done. The vet now suspects hyperthyroidism in addition to CRF, as her weight has dropped. I'll learn more on Monday when the lab results come in.



Good news - the lab results indicated that Misty has normal thryroid functioning, so hyperthyroidism is not a factor. The vet has instructed me to step up her subcutaneous fluids and start sprinkling a powder over her food. I'm going to go pick up a supply of the powder tomorrow. The other vet never mentioned it.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/25/2013 6:24:52 AM   
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Great, one less complication. Let us know what's in the powder. Not all vets are created equal.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/27/2013 1:45:49 AM   
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Great, one less complication. Let us know what's in the powder. Not all vets are created equal.


Turns out the powder is a vitamin/mineral supplement rather than something specifically for her CRF. Misty initially turned her nose up at her food after I sprinkled it on. She did reconsider and came back and ate some of it.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/27/2013 2:34:12 AM   
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My cat (Nermal) and I just had another wonderful game of "let's play with Mommy's face." This is a game where the cat uses her paws/pads to stroke My face to tell Me that she would like Me to pet her. Nothing like petting your human at 1:00 AM.

Now that I came downstairs in the middle of the night, all four of them now want attention. As soon as they are satisfied, I'm grabbing a cool shower.


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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/27/2013 6:18:21 AM   
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Good, thanks for letting us know.

Now, be a good kitty, Misty, and eat all your food up, you hear?

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/27/2013 11:09:10 AM   
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Bazinga is in the hall "taking a bath". Ashley went up to her and plopped down. Bazinga ignored her. Ashley shoved her head under Bazinga's tongue. Bazinga looked at me like "Mom, she is touching me!!"

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/28/2013 12:59:47 AM   
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Our white cat, who does have a real name, but has been nicknamed "Whiteness" due to her long white fur, has taken up her position on our freezer to get the cool air from the kitchen window. That's pretty much her spot because she is the only cat who is not afraid of the dogs next door.

"Yapper" is the nickname I've given the little Dachshund for his barking habit. Anybody walking behind the houses, sometimes us inside the house, including the cats. The also now have the cutest golden retriever puppy who got so excited when I went over to the freezer to pet Whiteness that he wiggled himself through the space between the house and the fence, figuring there was a human that was there to pay him attention, too. I barely caught him and had to have MP help Me get the little squirming guy back over to his side.

I don't know what Whiteness thought of all of this but she was quite content to enjoy the show. She watched both dogs playing in the yard most of the evening.


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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/28/2013 1:06:57 AM   
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Your cats are all plotting your enslavement and will eventually turn you into lab specimens.

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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/28/2013 1:54:26 AM   
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Always a great time to post this. http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/humor/otherhumor/dog_cat_diary.htm


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RE: What is your cat doing? - 6/28/2013 6:32:40 AM   
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One is eating a pancake while his brother glares angrily.the female kitten is sitting in the sink. The male kitten is bird stalking by the picture window.I think theyre excited mommy is taking a sick day

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