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Sound -> Looking for help (2/22/2006 8:41:43 AM)
I'm interested in guidelines and such to follow, as I am planning on being a master that owns more than one slave, as well as I already have one slave who lives rather far away from me. She herself owns a female slave of her own, just a point of fact. I am looking to become more agressive and become a "true" dom, where I own a (or several) female(s) to the point that she would do almost anything for me. I am naturally not cruel, and am very kind when needed, my personality is very affable (likable) but I worry a lot that sometimes it makes me appear to not be a strong and confident dom, when in reality, I am, I just choose to be kinder than one would be used to. My slave has referred me to this forum for ideas that would help me learn more on how to become the dom that she and I both want me to become.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 8:44:02 AM)
See my signature line, follow it. Just be yourself. If you want to be a little more devilish at times, just do it. Allow yourself to be "unfair."

Webmaster60 -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 9:13:17 AM)
quote: I'm interested in guidelines and such to follow, as I am planning on being a master that owns more than one slave, as well as I already have one slave who lives rather far away from me. She herself owns a female slave of her own, just a point of fact. I am looking to become more agressive and become a "true" dom, where I own a (or several) female(s) to the point that she would do almost anything for me. Cruel/kind it matters not. It lies in strength. imho you need to walk before running. If you're starting out, start slow. Start with ONE. Master her (completely) before moving on. Do you want to be a "dom"? or a Master. Realize the difference. Taking on more than one slave (successfully) requires much of a Master. Not to mention, talking on multiples and much less a slave that HAS a slave. This in itself brings a whold different dynamic. Hold your loins in check. Don't become intoxicated with new found power. Take he time to settle into it. NEVER rush.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 9:35:20 AM)
quote: I am planning on being a master that owns more than one slave Why?

IronBear -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 10:08:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross See my signature line, follow it. Just be yourself. If you want to be a little more devilish at times, just do it. Allow yourself to be "unfair." I concur whole heartedly..... "Ya gota play the game. It's all in the game and how you play it!"

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 10:31:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Webmaster60 Hold your loins in check. Or better yet, have one of your many new slaves hold them!!! But seriously, Merc and/or beth raise a great question, why is it that you want to own many slaves? What is it that many can do for you that the right one can not? Did you buy two cars the first time you bought a car? I started writing my own protocol for a multiple slave house...I think it's even online somewhere...but you will have to develop your own style and that takes time and experience. Taggard

Sound -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 10:58:18 AM)
Simply put, My other slave is far from me. So I am only able to visit her maybe 5 times a year. I'm looking for a new slave for now, and my other slave is the one who encouraged me to take on more locally and look for more. So I'm currently looking for at least one slave right now to train myself and her. To be honest, I simply want to have more than one slave. Not that much to do with power.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 12:46:23 PM)
quote: My other slave is far from me. So I am only able to visit her maybe 5 times a year. Is she your "slave" only when you visit? How do you maintain your position as her Master and hers as your slave between visits? Do you support her financially? quote: I'm currently looking for at least one slave right now to train myself and her. What would be the "goal" of your training? What are you prepared to offer as a Master to the potential slave? Are you confident you could handle one full time local slave? quote: Not that much to do with power. Having a slave doesn't have much to do with power? How does that work? Is your definition of "slave" limited to sexual interaction and scene play? No problem if it is, and from experience MUCH easier to find. "Why" is important for every goal. "Because I want to", or "It would be cool" are not answers unless the consequences of your desire are considered. They first should be considered by you. Any person contemplating the notion of being your slave deserves to know what kind of commitment you have to the idea before they commit to it. Read any thread. You'll find that "having" brings with it a lot more responsibility than you thought at the "wanting" level. Good luck!

Webmaster60 -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 1:03:01 PM)
quote: So I'm currently looking for at least one slave right now to train myself and her. ::shaking head::: I think you're irresponsible. How can you take on a slave, to OWN a girl, to be responsible for ALL aspects of her well being if you're "not ready" (as illustrated by your admitted need of training)? Did you buy a car before you learned to drive? Ir did you just buy one, hop behind the wheel and take er for a spin? Figure it out on the fly? This is a person's life we're talking about. One that would entrust her mind and body to your trust. Now I don't know in what "area" you need training, but if you are in any way not prepared, don't take on the responsibility till you are.

IrishMist -> RE: Looking for help (2/22/2006 1:14:03 PM)
quote: Why? That would be my first question also. quote: I am looking to become more agressive and become a "true" dom, My next question would be...What defines 'true Dom' for you?

Focus50 -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 1:46:35 AM)
Not biting off more than you know you can chew sounds like number one guideline for you. Taking responsibility for your own slave on a full-time basis is, in fact, a full-time "job" and you need to get some first hand experience with just one before taking on extras! Mercenbeth asked a most excellent question - why multiple slaves when you have no 24/7 experience with just one? My cynical nature has me thinking it's about status symbols - that in your eyes a "true" dom has a harem.... Mate, you're talking about people's emotions and even lives if you turn out to be an immature screw-up who's in wayyy over his head!!! And forget about other people's perceptions of you as a dom. Over the years, I've met probably 7 or 8 subs off the Net and to each of them, I've been everything from too assertive and overbearing to not seemingly dominant at all - and each time I was just my usual me. Confidence is an excellent attribute for a sub to see but you need to focus it as confidence in being your normal self rather than trying to match a stranger's preconceived notions. And you might consider taking this nonsense out of your profile: "My will is absolute and my wisdom is infinite."! I'm over 50 and wouldn't make such a preposterous claim - at 20, you're no chance! You'll learn an awful lot about yourself and life in general through your own sub/slave yet you're initially showing yourself to be the one who's "closed minded".... One step atta time seems another sensible guideline for your list.... Focus.

RavenMuse -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 2:27:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sound To be honest, I simply want to have more than one slave. Not that much to do with power. And too be honest, that looks more like a vanilla with a fantasy about getting an easy lay than anything that looks like a Dom! Your profile doesn't help dispell that impression when you state things such as :- quote: My will is absolute and my wisdom is infinite. Time to ditch the fantasy sunshine, deal with the reality! I suggest you go take a good hard look inside yourself and work out WHY you want to be a Dom in the first place before you look for anything, let alone a slave! Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it.... [:)]

OscarHargraves -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 7:51:03 AM)
Please be sure that your planning includes the means to support and take care of this stable of slaves. Including insurance, medical expenses etc. Good luck. I'm not sure whether to envy you or feel sorry for you.........

ownedgirlie -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 8:34:43 AM)
i am confused. The common opinion here is that it is wrong to own more than one slave? That's a matter of preference, isn't it? i must be missing something in this thread. He asks for advice and is condemned. He didn't 'say he was already doing this, he asked for advice on it, prior to doing it. As for, you can't really own someone you don't see all the time - in some cases yes. In others, that is quite untrue.

amayos -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 8:38:38 AM)
A reevaluation of just what a slave is and is not may be in order, as well as what a Master is and is not. Are the terms you use correct, even in your own mind? Knowing the ideal archetype on both sides lends tremendous advantage to finding and maintaining what you seek. If you want to be a Master who owns slaves, a certain cruelty and harshness is required in the very least, among other things. All the reading and techno babble in the world won't help you ultimately; authentic drive resides in the male animal that is your form. Confidence, decisiveness, clarity of desire and strength of will balanced with sincere desire encompasses the reality of a Master. You can be a Master or act the part, but if you choose the latter you will likely fail; females always know when an alpha male is present—and when he is not. My take, at least.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 9:40:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie i am confused. The common opinion here is that it is wrong to own more than one slave? That's a matter of preference, isn't it? i must be missing something in this thread. He asks for advice and is condemned. He didn't 'say he was already doing this, he asked for advice on it, prior to doing it. As for, you can't really own someone you don't see all the time - in some cases yes. In others, that is quite untrue. It's not quite like that. It's more that we're questioning the motives of a fairly young, fairly new dominant, in a messy situation, who wants to add a full time slave "just because he wants it." Is anything WRONG with that situation? Absolutely not. But we don't want to see him come back in two months writing a long ranting post about how hard it is to just find a decent slave and asking why things aren't working out right. It's much better to question and be clear BEFORE the commitment, than crash into a wall AFTER a commitment. He can have 20 slaves if he wants, but to understand why, understand what the slave will mean in his life, the commitments, the dynamics and the responsibilities is good to at least understand on a basic level BEFORE locking a collar onto someone.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 9:50:28 AM)
You make great points and i understand that. If that is what was meant, it was not how i originally read it. Thanks for clearing it up.

MHOO314 -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 11:00:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RavenMuse [Time to ditch the fantasy sunshine, deal with the reality! I suggest you go take a good hard look inside yourself and work out WHY you want to be a Dom in the first place before you look for anything, let alone a slave! Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it.... [:)] <wipes off the keyboard>---You DO have a way with words Raven!

kyraofMists -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 1:20:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OscarHargraves Please be sure that your planning includes the means to support and take care of this stable of slaves. Including insurance, medical expenses etc. Good luck. I'm not sure whether to envy you or feel sorry for you......... I see this concept often that a master shouldn't have a slave unless they can financially support them. I don't understand this idea at all. Can someone explain the reasoning for it? Then what do you do if something happens to the master and they are no longer able to support the house? Do you get rid of the slave(s) since you can no longer afford to support them? I could quit my well paying job and move in with my Lord and alandra now and he could financially support me. But that would come with sacrifices that neither of us think are worth it. It would leave the house without the substantial expendable income that we have now. It would mean retiring later in life rather than earlier in life and it would cut out all the traveling that the house likes to do. For us the benefits of having me at home all day, every day do not outweigh the sacrifices we would have to make. Knight's kyra

ownedgirlie -> RE: Looking for help (2/23/2006 1:31:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists quote: ORIGINAL: OscarHargraves Please be sure that your planning includes the means to support and take care of this stable of slaves. Including insurance, medical expenses etc. Good luck. I'm not sure whether to envy you or feel sorry for you......... I see this concept often that a master shouldn't have a slave unless they can financially support them. I It is just that: A concept. It is up to the Master whether he wants the slave to work or to support her. (or whether to put them in a stable, as suggested above)

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