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Arpig -> RE: If God is Insane and/or Evil, Should We Still Worship Him? (8/10/2009 9:33:12 AM)
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OK, I read through your links
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What about this Old Testament "Killer God?"
This one is ridiculous. It purports to resolve the seemingly different God in the OT and NT, but really does no such thing. It uses very twisted logic and the idea of predestination to somehow say that when God says he did something, he really meant he didn’t do it. At least when the deed is a nasty one. Overall very confused thinking behind this attempt, though the section on how different words were mistranslated as ``wrath`` is good, but otherwise not worth the time it took to read.
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Is Our God an Angry and Vengeful God?
This one doesn’t really deal with the actual issue, it is more focused on God’s ``chastisement`` of individual believers. The basic argument it makes is that God punishes you when you stray much in the same way a parent punishes a wayward child...out of love not anger. Fair enough, and admirable, but it doesn’t deal with the issue of the murders and genocides ordered in the OT which the OP asked about.
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God is Wrathful, Vengeful, Jealous, and Angry every day--and you want me to have a relationship with Him?! This one is quite good. Its basic argument is that the words wrath, jealous and vengeful have somewhat different meaning depending on the context. However, some of the proofs are a little strained, and occasionally it uses a contradictory passage to prove the contradiction doesn’t exist. Overall a very good examination of the problem, and a viable reconciliation of the apparent paradox. But again, it fails to address the problems raised by the OP, it doesn’t deal with God’s commanding genocide or mass murder.
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Why is God so different in the Old Testament than He is in the New Testament? This one is useless. It resolves the apparent difference by simply stating it does not exist. It does not address any of the issues in the OP, and it doesn’t even answer the question posed in its title. This one gets an F on all fronts.
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Is the God of the Old Testament Different From the God of the New? This one touches on the issues raised in the OP, but its main argument seems to be that since God is perfect and not capable of being unjust, there must be other factors we don’t know about that leads him to judge and punish various nations. Sort of a cop out....he can’t be wrong, so there must be stuff he knows that we don’t. This is dismissing the contradictions by saying there are other details not known that resolve the contradiction, so just ignore it. Pretty much like my telling you that I know something that proves Obama is certifiably insane, but I am not going to tell you what it is....so believe me anyway.
Sorry Treasure, only one of your links actually addressed the issues in the OP, and it didn’t do a very convincing job of reconciling the contradiction between what God commanded and what he is supposed to be like.
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