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XYisInferior -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/3/2009 8:55:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Gawd. I'm taken aback. That was your response to my points to you? This thread is beginning to look like a school playground. It's so weird it's almost funny!



Sorry, my eyes are starting to glaze over with your constant equivocations on this subject, even though I do understand why you're making them; it's fun to watch a thread grow exponentially on mental masturbation. [;)]






undergroundsea -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/3/2009 9:12:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea
I see submission and dominance as role preferences and not as social statuses.


I am not sure if anyone caught it the first time and no one has acknowledged it so I am posting this again. If you miss it this time too, don't worry, I'll repost this a few more times just to be safe.

;-)

Cheers,

Sea




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 3:03:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Gawd. I'm taken aback. That was your response to my points to you? This thread is beginning to look like a school playground. It's so weird it's almost funny!


Sorry, my eyes are starting to glaze over with your constant equivocations on this subject, even though I do understand why you're making them; it's fun to watch a thread grow exponentially on mental masturbation. [;)]


Thank you for your response.  Sadly, I don't feel that I can match your wit, so at this point I think I'll withdraw from our conversation. 




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 3:20:13 AM)

I see submission and dominance as role preferences and not as social statuses.

I think likewise, though I'd use a stronger word than 'preferences', which makes me a realer sub than you are.  Hence: neeners and ner, I feel.





LaTigresse -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 4:19:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Come on, La T.  Think of an equivalent to "whiney, petulant, selfish, self absorbed limpdicks" applied to femdoms.  That was a tad more than just careless wording. 


Actually I believe this thread has shown the above characteristics in a few participants of this thread. Sadly, most of them of the male s type. They are just too stubborn, selfish, whiney, petulant and self absorbed, to see it.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 5:22:38 AM)

La T, if you still can't see why that would be insulting and why it would fire indignation, I don't think there's any way now that I could show you.  We're now at the stage where what's in effect being said is,  "Stop whining and show your maturity by accepting these insults".  No matter what is thought about, carefully, before being said, it's always this kind of response. 

It's barely worth writing anymore because no-one's reading.  As an example - check my post, above.  I think I may, possibly, be the only person on this entire thread to have cited the OP's lines "I love you" and "I thank you from the bottom of my heart".  I called them 'starbursts' because, for me, they registered that much warmth.  I thought hard before using that metaphor, too.  In your first response to me, it was as though those words had just vanished from my post.  It's unlikely, I think, that they were in XYisInferior's mind, either, when he implied that I was mental masturbator a few posts ago.  'Whining' was what you both wanted to see, so 'whining' was what you and XYisInferior saw.  That, and nothing else.

If people feel insulted, it's usually better to ask them why, and work it out.  It does not usually help matters to insult them further for the fact that they felt insulted in the first place.  That's been one of the general themes of this thread, for me. 

Perhaps I've contributed to that theme because I know I've been angry and frustrated in places.  If so, I'm sorry.  However, in my eyes, this thread has degraded too much now for me to respect much of what's being said on it, let alone write on it again.  Therefore, I'm going to take my leave of it.





NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 6:19:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior




While there are without a doubt many looking for boyfriend / husband experiences, I'm just not so sure "wooing" is what a certain sum of dominant Women specifically have in mind—particularly if you are going to set the rules on what is acceptable etiquette and what is not, what they can demand and what they can't.

Being too rigid in that degree strikes me as perhaps a little too pessimistic from the outset.

The way I see it, being generous—especially when it is demanded—is a wonderful show of good faith from a man who claims to be submissive.


Bumpity. But we're not talking to straight submissive men here in this thread, they're men who like other men, or transsexuals. That's why they protest anything which shows female power or gives females more power.




NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 6:24:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Using fast reply.......

Just to toss a thought out there. In my time here at Collarme reading the forums. I've read oodles of threads about the financial aspects of the female dominant, male s-type, dynamic. There are ALWAYS, a consistent few males that make it a point to jump in and beat to death, their distaste for this type of thing. Over and over and over and over and........

Now, given the fact that I haven't got even a dead horse in this race, my point of view is purely observational and yet coming from a woman. Think about that.

IF.......I was in the market for a male s type, the constant blathering on and on, from otherwise, decent seeming guys, would turn me off them completely. And here are the reasons.

#1. It's negative. No matter how you word your debate guys, it does begin to be, just negative whining and I effing HATE  constant negativity. Just get over the fact that it exists and focus on the positive things M/s or D/s means to YOU.

#2. It really does make you look like a cheap ass. I know I don't expect anyone to tribute me, or buy me cases of Dom, caskets of gold jewelry or a mansion on the Rivera, but I do think that some generousity of the pocket reflects generousity of the soul. Regardless of how broke you are, if you cannot afford more than the occasional card, your just being a tightass. And that is unflattering. Seriously. Even if it is some discount florist flowers or dinner at her favourite diner because that is all you can afford, showing that she is important enough to you, to make the effort, will go an awful long way. Especially if you genuinely prove you expect nothing in return. Trust me, the return can end up being be better than you ever imagined.

Just start thinking of this like vanilla dating with a better (for you) POTENTIAL relationship.

The above sentence is the key. Just because a woman is dominant and the guy is submissive doesn't mean you can ask for guarantees before any sort of investment of any sort. When I talk of investment, I mean time also. Quit thinking that, just because you show up and are the person you promised you would be, your still going to get something out of it. Quit thinking that, because you buy her dinner or bring her flowers, your going to get your kinky jollies.

Now, where the difference lies, is vanilla women rarely demand you bring them a gift. Well, guess what guys, your not dating vanilla. You've already determined you want a certain type of woman and you are going to have to decide if the lady you ask out, is worth putting forth a little extra effort than the vanilla lady that works in your grocery store, or doctor's office. Well, look at it this way. You are paying to get past one hurdle, answering the question "Is she kinky or not?".

Seriously, look at the issue however you want. Have whatever opinions you want, of those that demand and expect something material. If you hate it, pass them by. No one is forcing you to chase after her. Certainly not her. And that my friend is the key, these women do not back you into a corner and demand you be their money slave. You are chasing them. Figure out what works for you and just let the rest roll off your back. Let it fucking go!

It will make you look MUCH more attractive to the dominant women that don't expect cash or jewels but a genuine, generous hearted, submissive/slave, man.



"Now, where the difference lies, is vanilla women rarely demand you bring them a gift. Well, guess what guys, your not dating vanilla."

The protesters and the ones who want equality with a twist of kink shouldn't be looking for mistresses. They should look for tops or become a dom so they can get their rules followed by a subby woman.




Venatrix -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 6:44:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

If people feel insulted, it's usually better to ask them why, and work it out.  It does not usually help matters to insult them further for the fact that they felt insulted in the first place. 



Yes, EXACTLY, Peon!  When many of the submissive men who read and post on these boards look at why dominant women feel insulted by their behaviour and work it out, we'll all have a lot better chance at a good relationship.  Insulting dominant women further for the fact that they felt insulted in the first place does not, indeed, help matters.  I'm so pleased that you brought up how your fellow malesubs can do a better job of making us happy.

Or was this not what you meant?  Were you perhaps thinking that dominant women should pander to submissive men?  Surely not!




undergroundsea -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:08:07 AM)

Elan,

We've surpassed the cock sucking thread! It's time for some GoRemy !

Cheers,

Sea




chiaThePet -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:22:26 AM)


Heterosexual males sucking cock for tribute, hmmmmmmm.

This could be big!

(this is not an attempt to hijack the thread into a fat fest)

chia* (the pet)




Venatrix -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:29:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


Heterosexual males sucking cock for tribute, hmmmmmmm.

This could be big!

(this is not an attempt to hijack the thread into a fat fest)

chia* (the pet)



Chia, have you gained weight?  You're looking a bit podgy in that photo.




chiaThePet -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:33:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


Heterosexual males sucking cock for tribute, hmmmmmmm.

This could be big!

(this is not an attempt to hijack the thread into a fat fest)

chia* (the pet)



Chia, have you gained weight?  You're looking a bit podgy in that photo.


Whoops, it's turned into a fat fest.

Apologies to all my pie lovers out there.

chia* (the podgy pet)




chiaThePet -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:36:03 AM)



LOOK!

A QUARTER!

There, we're back on track.

chia* (the pet)




XYisInferior -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 7:54:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Thank you for your response.  Sadly, I don't feel that I can match your wit, so at this point I think I'll withdraw from our conversation. 


It's not about "matching wit", and if you think it is, you're not really engaging in discussion so much as trying to outsmart people with equivocation and whimsical gibberish. The ideas being railed against in this thread by the usual suspects are of an elementary D/s level, as Shakti astutely pointed out. This thread is needlessly long, but very revealing on a few fronts. I'll say that.




cloudboy -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 8:10:37 AM)


Why doesn't he let the guy eat his lunch?




cloudboy -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 8:21:27 AM)


You dominate!





cloudboy -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 8:25:58 AM)

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Yes, EXACTLY, Peon! When many of the submissive men who read and post on these boards look at why dominant women feel insulted by their behaviour and work it out, we'll all have a lot better chance at a good relationship. Insulting dominant women further for the fact that they felt insulted in the first place does not, indeed, help matters. I'm so pleased that you brought up how your fellow malesubs can do a better job of making us happy.

Or was this not what you meant? Were you perhaps thinking that dominant women should pander to submissive men? Surely not!


No (speaking for myself), there is a fundamental incompatibility between me and those woman. I'm not for them, and they're not for me. Maybe we could be friends though. People have to like and respect one another to enter into a LTR, and when they don't, its simply not going to happen.




Andalusite -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 8:40:05 AM)

Don't you need to like and respect someone in order to truly be friends, rather than merely friendly acquaintances? Leaving the whole tribute issue aside, what most of the male submissives want, and the approaches they take to their search, are obviously incompatible with the majority of Dommes and switches who are seeking submissive partners, and vice versa.




LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/4/2009 9:10:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

Elan,

We've surpassed the cock sucking thread! It's time for some GoRemy !

Cheers,

Sea


Well, there's the bump that you wanted so badly.  That will be $19.95.

I sat catching up on the last few pages of this thread this morning.  Like a lot of others, I got the 'this is still going' thought running through My brain.  To be more accurate, I got the 'this thing is still going on and it's still this ugly' mentality.  If anybody can see some of the responses on this thread as other than bitter at best and repulsive at worst, more power to you.  I think it was Aakasha who said that if this is really what it's like out there for you being single, I'm glad I'm not out there.  I have to echo that.  I couldn't put up with this nonsense.

Carry on, as I'm sure it will. 




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