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Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 5:49:02 AM   
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Victims’ families are furious at news that Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, convicted of murdering 270 people in the Lockerbie bombing, is to be released.

THE man convicted of murdering 270 people in the Lockerbie bombing was preparing for freedom today.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, who is dying from prostate cancer, was scheduled to be flown from the Scottish jail where he has spent the last eight years back to his home nation of Libya.

The decision to release the 57-year-old, who was jailed for life in 2001 after being convicted of causing a Pan Am plane to crash over the Scottish village in December 1988, has infuriated victims’ families.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 5:57:51 AM   
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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 6:01:08 AM   
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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 6:22:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some radio hosts here were talking about that this morning. One said "Perhaps it's Scotland's plan to put him on the plane bound for home, then have the pilots bail out so they can shoot him down."

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 6:48:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		hes dying and theres a very good chance he didnt do it anyway, so what exactly is the problem with him being released?

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 7:22:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Scotland's stance is that although the man showed no compassion to his victims, this shouldn't prevent the Scottish people from showing compassion and humanity to him.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 8:17:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think this man if guilty [it's not a very good chance numuncular just reasonable] deserves all he gets. However like KittenSol said we are better than such animals as we have compassion. And if letting out a dying man to rot through his final weeks with his family is the price we pay for our compassion then it is one I think that is worth paying. The people such as Abdelbasset who condemn the west for our lifestyle still recieve more mercy than they show others.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 8:29:37 AM   
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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 9:26:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm at a complete loss to imagine any reason compassion would even be considered for someone who murdered 270 innocent human beings. What's the point of putting mass murderers in prison in the first place? Christ, if compassion is more important than justice, just give 'em cab fare home as soon as the verdict is announced, and of course be sure to apologize for inconveniencing them.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 9:42:17 AM   
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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 10:41:50 AM   
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This is why I'm in favor of the death penalty for savages like this.
As for "compassion" do people think that if we're "nice" to these savages they'll stop attacking us? Or perhaps that it makes us "better" than them?
Sure, if I'm mugged I'll track the mugger down and give him more money.
What would they do if he killed 500 people instead of 270, buy him a new Cadillac?
Showing "compassion" to savages like this does not make us "better" than them it makes us *dumber* than them.
Just another example of that "PC" "feel good" retarded convoluted thinking.
When can we start locking up "PC" people?
WTF! You people over there need to take back control of your government.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 11:35:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes popeye it does make us better than them. Your comparisons make no sense he is not being rewarded for the number of people he has killed he is being let out to die having been punished. Obviously you understand the mindset of the mrtyr, you actually think that letting him diein prison would deter a terrorist? The way you stop them is bystopping such tactics at the source. I am about as un p.c. as one can be so please don't throw that epithet at me, i'm also English not Scottish popeye it was the Scottish governmnet that decided on this course of action. We are in control of our governmnet you can tell because we vote them in and out.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 11:40:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Panda the point is to punish them. Compassion is not more important than justice and if I though having this man stay in prison a few more weeks to die would act as a deterrant then I would bay for him to stay there. Personally I think terrorists should be exxecuted [the only caveat to that is that many wish for martyrdom and so killing them provides a release for the individual and propoganda for the cause] . However in this situation there is nothing more that his sentence can serve except by releasing him to show we are better than the savages that perpetrate such monstrous acts.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:00:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I LIKE the word "VENGANCE", and see it as part of true justice, and have no problem with the application of the French concept "Por le encourager les otres" (For the encouragement of others) I can see some true vengance in releasing him. In a Scottish prison, he'd be entitled to the best terminal care available, COSTLY care, probably better than the average citizen gets, not having to wait to see a doctor on a waiting list. I've SEEN what this type of cancer does to the patient, the death isn't pretty, and it can be damned painful, the final mercy BEING death. Sure, LET him go to his hell-hole native country, LET him die with pitiful to the point of non-existant medical care, LET him feel the pain, the disintegration, let his countrymen see that he was "mercifully" released to die in the squallor of their company. This is a case of the western world gaining a little, politically, while actually taking-away FROM the perpetrator. May he die in agony and rot in whatever form of hell his soul fears most.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:02:52 PM   
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Panda the point is to punish them. Compassion is not more important than justice and if I though having this man stay in prison a few more weeks to die would act as a deterrant then I would bay for him to stay there. Personally I think terrorists should be exxecuted [the only caveat to that is that many wish for martyrdom and so killing them provides a release for the individual and propoganda for the cause] . However in this situation there is nothing more that his sentence can serve except by releasing him to show we are better than the savages that perpetrate such monstrous acts.


If that murdering cocksucker is being let out of prison to spend his last days in the comfort of his own home, then he has not been sufficiently punished. He slaughtered 270 innocent human beings, for god's sake! How could anything be sufficient punishment for that?

Fuck compassion! There is no place for compassion for someone who slaughtered hundreds of innocent people! I am appalled and dumbstruck that anyone would think he deserves even the least bit of compassion! Jesus christ, what is wrong with  you people over there? This is morally indefensible. I'm just stunned that any human being could rationalize this.

I am also not the least bit interested in "showing we are better than the savages who perpetrate such monstrous acts." See, I already know we are, and anyone who doesn't grasp that is way too far gone anyway to be persuaded by this shameful rejection of everything that justice is supposed to stand for. I also think it's absurd to say that nothing would be served by making him serve his entire sentence. If nothing else, it would serve to give the families of his victims some small measure of comfort knowing that the animal who murdered their loved ones will never taste the air of freedom again. And that alone is more than worth keeping that scumbag locked up until he dies.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
See? "Life" doesn't mean life.
This is why I'm in favor of the death penalty for savages like this.
As for "compassion" do people think that if we're "nice" to these savages they'll stop attacking us? Or perhaps that it makes us "better" than them?
Sure, if I'm mugged I'll track the mugger down and give him more money.
What would they do if he killed 500 people instead of 270, buy him a new Cadillac?
Showing "compassion" to savages like this does not make us "better" than them it makes us *dumber* than them.
Just another example of that "PC" "feel good" retarded convoluted thinking.
When can we start locking up "PC" people?
WTF! You people over there need to take back control of your government.


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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:05:26 PM   
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While I LIKE the word "VENGANCE", and see it as part of true justice, and have no problem with the application of the French concept "Por le encourager les otres" (For the encouragement of others) I can see some true vengance in releasing him. In a Scottish prison, he'd be entitled to the best terminal care available, COSTLY care, probably better than the average citizen gets, not having to wait to see a doctor on a waiting list. I've SEEN what this type of cancer does to the patient, the death isn't pretty, and it can be damned painful, the final mercy BEING death. Sure, LET him go to his hell-hole native country, LET him die with pitiful to the point of non-existant medical care, LET him feel the pain, the disintegration, let his countrymen see that he was "mercifully" released to die in the squallor of their company. This is a case of the western world gaining a little, politically, while actually taking-away FROM the perpetrator. May he die in agony and rot in whatever form of hell his soul fears most.


While this is a valid thought, the report I heard said that his country of origin was sending a "private plane" to pick him up and return him home. If they are doing that, it's hard to imagine he'll just be allowed to rot.


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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:10:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is nothing ''wrong''' with people over here Panda don't be rude I don't shriek what is wrong with americans when I disagree with a decision made by tthe government they elect.
The whole point about being better than them is that you do have to show it. Knowing it in your heart is good enough for us as it is good enough for these people as they believe it. What is needed is to demonstrate that we are better not just state it. It is not absurd to suggest that keeping him locked up will not act as a deterrnat, it won't. As for the families of his victims I am appalled fr them as always.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:11:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: ANRsub
While I LIKE the word "VENGANCE", and see it as part of true justice, and have no problem with the application of the French concept "Por le encourager les otres" (For the encouragement of others) I can see some true vengance in releasing him. In a Scottish prison, he'd be entitled to the best terminal care available, COSTLY care, probably better than the average citizen gets, not having to wait to see a doctor on a waiting list. I've SEEN what this type of cancer does to the patient, the death isn't pretty, and it can be damned painful, the final mercy BEING death. Sure, LET him go to his hell-hole native country, LET him die with pitiful to the point of non-existant medical care, LET him feel the pain, the disintegration, let his countrymen see that he was "mercifully" released to die in the squallor of their company. This is a case of the western world gaining a little, politically, while actually taking-away FROM the perpetrator. May he die in agony and rot in whatever form of hell his soul fears most.


While this is a valid thought, the report I heard said that his country of origin was sending a "private plane" to pick him up and return him home. If they are doing that, it's hard to imagine he'll just be allowed to rot.



No shit. He's going home to die a fucking hero. The thousands of people who lost someone they loved on that airplane now get to spend the rest of their lives knowing that the cocksucker who murdered their child, or their mother or father, or their husband or wife, went home in triumph and was welcomed as a fucking hero for murdering the people they loved. This is nothing short of a disgrace.

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RE: Lockerbie bomber is let out to die at home - 8/20/2009 12:14:16 PM   
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There is nothing ''wrong''' with people over here Panda don't be rude I don't shriek what is wrong with americans when I disagree with a decision made by tthe government they elect.


I'm not being rude, I'm being blunt. There is something seriously wrong with a government that allows something this outrageous. If you take that observation as rude, I'm sorry you feel that way, but I regard it as a completely objective and self-evident observation.


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The whole point about being better than them is that you do have to show it.


Why?


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