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RapierFugue -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 10:12:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have a feeling the answer is a rousing no Spinner heh ... I was reading through this thread and had reached much the same conclusion, Lucy. Is it any wonder though? Religion and politics are about the 2 most contentious subjects imaginable, and people who like to discuss religion and politics are often a) highly committed to their ideals or b) fond of arguing for the sake of it or c) complete horse's arses or d) all of the above. Is it any wonder those sorts of threads rapidly degenerate into "tis, you commie bastard!" and "t'isn't, you conservative asswipe!" arguments? Mind you, I'm a liberal, so I would say that [:D] We need to unite against the common enemy - the Judean People's Front!

TheHeretic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 10:25:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue the Judean People's Front! Splitter!

DomKen -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 11:35:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen So IOW so rare as to not matter and you expect something out of me? I just searched your posts for the last 6 months and didn't find any of these supposed condemnations for people over the line. I did however find several instances of you cheerleading those same posters. Why do you tell stupid lies, Ken? Do you think you have such credibility that your lies will just be accepted? If you searched the last 6 months, then you certainly would have come across this comment from May 22, Didn't we have enough of this bullshit in the last eight years, Crue? I realize that the Dems lowered to bar to revolting levels. Must the right automatically behave in the same classless manner? The man is the President of the United States. The Office deserves a bit of respect, whether you like him or not. Post number 9, Ken. "Right wing radio host waterboarded", Owner59 started the thread. No. I counted that as not a condemnation since you lied in the statement. Your usual bullshit meme about the Democrats being the source of bad action disqualifies anything else in your post. We've been over this repeatedly over the years and you've never been able to defend your claims. At one point you even tried to compare a joke told by Whoopi Goldberg to the SBVT ads.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 11:42:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen No. I counted that as not a condemnation since you lied in the statement. Your usual bullshit meme about the Democrats being the source of bad action disqualifies anything else in your post. We've been over this repeatedly over the years and you've never been able to defend your claims. At one point you even tried to compare a joke told by Whoopi Goldberg to the SBVT ads. Ya know, DK, the term "lied" is both inflammatory, and - as you and other hardcore lefties use it - generally inaccurate. Disagreement, and different points of views doesn't necessary mean that someone is "lying". Firm

mnottertail -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 11:44:55 AM)
and it ain't pretending and it ain't forcing, either. LOL. Ron

TheHeretic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 11:54:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen No. I counted that as not a condemnation since you lied in the statement. Your usual bullshit meme about the Democrats being the source of bad action disqualifies anything else in your post. We've been over this repeatedly over the years and you've never been able to defend your claims. At one point you even tried to compare a joke told by Whoopi Goldberg to the SBVT ads. You seem rather desperate here, Ken. Jumping back, yet again, to your incredibly arrogant demand that I justify my perceptions of what has become of the left, to your satisfaction, is just pathetic. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are blind to what is before your eyes. Quit trying to change the subject with your ridiculous accusations and assertion that I am not entitled to my opinion. It wasn't a condemnation because you didn't like how I based it? Stupid lies, and now stupid excuses. You have yourself a great day, Ken.

LillyoftheVally -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 12:08:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue the Judean People's Front! Splitter! Not the peoples front of Judea then? I hear they are a tricksy lot too

Lucylastic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 12:25:58 PM)
Prefers it when we do the python sketches

RapierFugue -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 12:58:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Prefers it when we do the python sketches Wolf nipple chips! Get em while they're hot, they're lovely.

DomKen -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 1:50:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen No. I counted that as not a condemnation since you lied in the statement. Your usual bullshit meme about the Democrats being the source of bad action disqualifies anything else in your post. We've been over this repeatedly over the years and you've never been able to defend your claims. At one point you even tried to compare a joke told by Whoopi Goldberg to the SBVT ads. You seem rather desperate here, Ken. Jumping back, yet again, to your incredibly arrogant demand that I justify my perceptions of what has become of the left, to your satisfaction, is just pathetic. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are blind to what is before your eyes. Quit trying to change the subject with your ridiculous accusations and assertion that I am not entitled to my opinion. It wasn't a condemnation because you didn't like how I based it? Stupid lies, and now stupid excuses. You have yourself a great day, Ken. It wasn't a condemnation because it wasn't truthful. That you deny the facts doesn't mean you get your own version of history. You've never even come close to proving your claim and in every single case where I've challenged you on it you simply failed. You know it.

rightwinghippie -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 2:00:40 PM)
"It wasn't a condemnation because it wasn't truthful." This is nonsense, because the validity of the claims is not relevant to the term condemnation. Feel free to cite a definiton that backs up your assertion here Domken...

RapierFugue -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 2:06:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen No. I counted that as not a condemnation since you lied in the statement. Your usual bullshit meme about the Democrats being the source of bad action disqualifies anything else in your post. We've been over this repeatedly over the years and you've never been able to defend your claims. At one point you even tried to compare a joke told by Whoopi Goldberg to the SBVT ads. You seem rather desperate here, Ken. Jumping back, yet again, to your incredibly arrogant demand that I justify my perceptions of what has become of the left, to your satisfaction, is just pathetic. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are blind to what is before your eyes. Quit trying to change the subject with your ridiculous accusations and assertion that I am not entitled to my opinion. It wasn't a condemnation because you didn't like how I based it? Stupid lies, and now stupid excuses. You have yourself a great day, Ken. It wasn't a condemnation because it wasn't truthful. That you deny the facts doesn't mean you get your own version of history. You've never even come close to proving your claim and in every single case where I've challenged you on it you simply failed. You know it. "Hello, good evening, and welcome to these 9th Annual World Willy-Waving Championships ... things are tight going into the second round. There have been some excellent willy waves, and most of the competitors left seem to be of a very high standard". Can't you just cut to the chase and call each commies/fascists? It'd increase the overall irony rating of this thread by 200%, not that it needed much help in that department anyway.

TheHeretic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 2:07:50 PM)
LOL! Ken, I have tried to be accomodating and give you some illustrations of how I came to the position I now hold, but don't confuse that with me somehow granting you authority to be the arbiter of my opinion. I haven't, and you ain't. None are so blind as those who refuse to see. The fact remains, Ken, that I do make my feelings about hate-speech known to those who share some of my political views, and you are desperately scrambling to avoid acknowledging that you have no such foundation to stand on when cheerleading that the right needs to tone it down.

LillyoftheVally -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 2:08:02 PM)
Words from my mouth ^^^^

RapierFugue -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 2:11:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally Words from my mouth ^^^^ I should be so lucky. And I'll take it up with your Sir if you don't stop agreeing with me! You see if I don't! You ... you ... nazi!

philosophy -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 3:27:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The fact remains, Ken, that I do make my feelings about hate-speech known to those who share some of my political views ...i'm sure you do that TH. However, you do so privately. i've privately written a couple of times to those on the other side of the fence too. Not very often but i have done it. Thing is, everyone else will have to take our word for it. Sanity has, on occasion, berated liberal posters for not publically taking their colleagues to task. Under those circumstances there's no point in my posting that i've done so privately because he'll call me a liar in all likelihood or ask for specific examples. You're getting the same treatment as i might but from DK. It's a matter of trust......and the polarisation of opinion here makes that difficult for some.

TheHeretic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 3:51:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The fact remains, Ken, that I do make my feelings about hate-speech known to those who share some of my political views ...i'm sure you do that TH. However, you do so privately. Umm, Phil? Do have a peek at posts # 9 and #13... http://www.collarchat.com/m_2622744/tm.htm

philosophy -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 3:55:20 PM)
...i'd forgotten that one. You may have caught me telling Brain off in some other thread too.......and, er......blast, forgot his name........but i've gone public a couple of times. Mostly however i make my feelings known privately. i'm sure you do too....... Doesn't detract from my primary point though......it's basically a trust issue where virtually no trust exists.

TheHeretic -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 4:00:07 PM)
I can almost guarantee I haven't seen any response you might have made to Brain, Phil. I do seem to recall you expressing similar sentiments to others. I prefer to say my piece in public, though. I have no ability to stop their behavior, but I will publicly distance myself from it.

mnottertail -> RE: Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap? (8/30/2009 4:03:36 PM)
And that; was the unkindest cut of all........ Fred Garber

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