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What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 2:59:03 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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My vanilla friend likes spanking, yeah I know vanilla folks involved in kink etc. If those sentences make sense then what the heck is vanilla? See I thought vanilla meant those who didn't engage in anything thought to be BDSM (which in turn kinda means that there are no vanilla people therefore maybe the term is used for those who don't recognise the kink)

Yeah ok it is another define this thread but I thought it was quite interesting.

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:13:41 PM   
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Abasiophilia: love of (or sexual attraction to) people who are lame or crippled and/or who use leg braces or other orthopaedic appliances
Acarophilia: sexual pleasure from being tickled
Acomophilia: sexual attraction to baldness (also hairless genitalia)
Acousticophilia: sexual arousal from certain sounds
Acrotomophilia: love of (or sexual attraction to) amputation or amputees
Adolescentilism: sexual pleasure from acting or dressing like an adolescent
Aelurophilia: a form of zoophilia—sexual attraction to cats
Agalmatophilia: sexual attraction to statues or mannequins or immobility
Algolagnia: sexual pleasure from pain
Amaurophilia: sexual arousal by a partner whom one is unable to see due to artificial means, such as being blindfolded or having sex in total darkness. (See: sensory deprivation)
Andromimetophilia: love of women dressed as men or have had a sex change; see also gynemimetophilia
Apodysophilia: desire to undress, see also nudism
Apotemnophilia: desire to have (or sexual arousal from having) a healthy appendage (limb, digit, or male genitals) amputated
Aquaphilia: arousal from water and/or in watery environments, including bathtubs or swimming pools
Aretifism: sexual attraction to people who are without footwear, in contrast to retifism
Asphyxiophilia: sexual attraction to asphyxia; also called breath control play (or being strangled); including autoerotic asphyxiation; see medical warnings
Autoabasiophilia: sexual attraction to oneself being lame or crippled
Autagonistophilia: sexual arousal from being observed or creating conditions for faciliating observation; see also exhibitionism
Autogynephilia: love of oneself as a woman (also see Blanchard, Bailey, and Lawrence theory for discussion on controversy)
Autonephioplia: (a.k.a diaper fetishism) sexual arousal from diapers
Autossassinophilia: sexual arousal from fantasizing about or staging one's own murder
Biastophilia: sexual pleasure from committing rape or being raped; see also raptophilia
Celebriphilia: pathological desire to have sex with a celebrity
Chrematistophilia: sexual arousal from paying for sex or being robbed by one’s sexual partner; see also harpaxophilia
Coprophilia: sexual attraction to (or pleasure from) feces
Crush fetish: sexual arousal from seeing small creatures being crushed by members of the opposite sex, or being crushed oneself
Dacryphilia: sexual pleasure in eliciting tears from others or oneself
Dendrophilia: sexual attraction to trees and other large plants, popularized by the movie Superstar with Molly Shannon
Dwarf or 'midget' fetishism: sexual attraction to little people
Emetophilia (a.k.a. vomerophilia): sexual attraction to vomit
Endytophilia: prefering to have sexual activity while fully clothed
Ephebophilia (a.k.a. hebephilia): sexual attraction towards adolescents
Eproctophilia: sexual attraction to flatulence
Erotophonophilia: sexual arousal from trying to commit murder
Exhibitionism: (a.k.a peodeiktophilia) sexual arousal through sexual behavior in view of third parties (also includes the recurrent urge or behavior to expose one's genitals to an unsuspecting person)
Faunoiphilia: sexual arousal from watching animals mate
Fecophile: sexual arousal from defacation or watching a partner defecate, paticularly on oneself.
Sexual fetishism: is the use of non-sexual or nonliving objects or part of a person's body to gain sexual excitement. Examples include: Balloon fetishism -- breast fetishism -- bike fetish -- foot fetishism (podophilia) -- fur fetishism -- leather fetishism -- lipstick fetishism -- medical fetishism -- panty fetishism -- robot fetishism -- rubber fetishism -- shoe fetishism -- smoking fetishism -- spandex fetishism -- dental braces fetishism -- transvestic fetishism (see below)
Formicophilia: sexual attraction to smaller animals, insects, etc. crawling on parts of the body
Forniphilia: sexual objectification in which a person's body is incorporated into a piece of furniture
Frotteurism: sexual arousal from the recurrent urge or behavior of touching or rubbing against a nonconsenting person
Galactophilia: (a.k.a lactophilia) sexual attraction to human milk or lactating women
Gerontophilia: sexual attraction towards the elderly
Gynemimetophilia: love of men dressed as women or have had a sex change; see also andromimetophilia
Gynophagia: sexual attraction toward eating woman
Haematophilia: sexual attraction involving blood (either on another person or the liquid itself; not to be confused with haemophilia, a genetic disorder of the blood)
Harpaxophilia: sexual arousal from being the victim of a robbery or burglary; see also chrematistophilia
Homeovestism: sexual attraction towards the clothing of one's own gender
Hybristophilia: sexual arousal to people who have committed crimes, in particular cruel or outrageous crimes
Hypephilia: sexual attraction to fabrics
Incestophilia: sexual attraction to one's own family
Infantilism: sexual pleasure from dressing, acting, or being treated as a baby
Katoptronophilia: sexual arousal from having sex in front of mirrors
Kleptophilia: sexual arousal from stealing things
Klismaphilia: sexual pleasure from enemas
Lust murder: sexual arousal through committing murder
Macrophilia: sexual attraction to larger people and large things (including larger body organs such as breasts and genitalia)
Maiesiophilia: sexual attraction to childbirth or pregnant women
Masochism: the recurrent urge or behavior of wanting to be humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer
Mechaphilia: sexual attraction to machines, especially robots or androids
Microphilia: sexual attraction to smaller people and things of smaller size
Mysophilia: sexual attraction to soiled, dirty, foul or decaying material
Narratophilia: sexual arousal in the use of dirty or obscene words to a partner
Nasophilia: sexual attraction to the sight, touch of human noses
Necrophilia: sexual attraction to corpses
Necrozoophilia: (a.k.a necrobestiality) sexual attraction to the corpses or killings of animals
Nepiophilia: (a.k.a. infantophilia) sexual attraction to children three years old or younger
Olafactophilia: sexual stimulus with smells or odors
Parthenophilia: sexual attraction to virgins
Pecattiphilia: sexual arousal from sinning or guilt
Pediophilia: sexual attraction to dolls
Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children (British spelling: paedophilia)
Phalloorchoalgolagnia: sexual arousal by the experiencing of painful stimuli being administered to the male genitals
Pictophilia: sexual attraction to pictorial pornography or erotic art
Plushophilia: sexual attraction to stuffed toys or people in animal costume, such as theme park characters
Pyrophilia: sexual arousal through watching, setting, hearing, talking or fantasizing about fire
Raptophilia: sexually attracted to the idea of being raped; see also biastophilia
Retifism: sexual arousal from shoes
Sadism: sexual arousal from giving pain
Saliromania: sexual arousal or satisfaction of soiling or damaging a partner’s clothing
Schediaphilia (a.k.a. toonophilia): love of (or sexual arousal from) cartoon characters or situations; see moe
Scoptophilia: sexual pleasure from watching other people have sex; not to be confused with voyeurism
Sitophilia: sexual arousal from food
Somnophilia: sexual arousal from sleeping or unconscious people
Spectrophilia: sexual attraction to ghosts
Stigmatophilia: sexual focus on a partner who is tatooed or scarred
Stygiophilia: sexual pleasure from the thought of going to hell
Symphorophilia: sexual attraction with stage-managing a disaster, such as a traffic accident
Telephone scatologia: being sexually aroused by making obscene telephone calls to strangers
Telephonicophilia: sexual arousal in explicit phone conversations
Teratophilia: sexual attraction to deformed or monstrous people
Toonophilia: (a.k.a. schediaphilia) sexual attraction to cartoons or anime characters
Transformation fetish: sexual arousal from depictions of transformations of people into objects or other beings
Transvestic fetishism: (a.k.a transvestitism) sexual attraction towards the clothing of the opposite gender
Trichophilia: sexual arousal from hair
Troilism: sharing a sexual partner with another person while looking on
Urolagnia: sexual attraction to urine
Vincilagnia: sexual arousal by bondage
Vomerophilia: (a.k.a. emetophilia) sexual attraction to the act of vomiting
Vorarephilia: sexual attraction to being eaten by, and/or eating, another person or creature
Voyeurism: sexual arousal through secretly watching others having sex (also includes the recurrent urge or behavior to observe an unsuspecting person who is naked, disrobing or engaging in sexual activities, see peeping tom)
Xenophilia: sexual attraction to foreigners (in science fiction, can also mean sexual attraction to aliens)
Xylophilia: sexual attraction to wood
Zelophilia: sexual arousal from jealousy
Zoophilia: emotional or sexual attraction to animals
Zoosadism: the sexual enjoyment of causing pain and suffering to animals


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:15:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		So does the definition have to be exclusive? 

If you label somebody as participating in bdsm does that exclude vanilla activities?  If you label someone as vanilla it therefore excludes them participating in bdsm activities? 

My feeling is that there's overlap and its a matter of degree, and where you identify.


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:28:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just for fun, if we take these as absolute definitions, look at it this way -

Parthenophilia: sexual attraction to virgins
  Ok, so that probably covers a fair percentage of the male population at least at some point in their life?
Olafactophilia: sexual stimulus with smells or odors
So anyone who wears perfume to be sexy?

So you've now said that better than 50% of the population (to pick a number out of the air) is non-vanilla, and therefore kinky?


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:30:49 PM   
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:33:24 PM   
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:33:24 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

It's a Flavor innit?

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To be honest, thats where I think the term ends

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:35:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		jeeze RS how long did that take or do you know all these 'ilias' off by heart! - and could that be construed as some sort of fetish all its own - impressive anyway and fascinating, thanks.

i thought vanillas were allowed to be mildly kinky, just its a sex thing with them rather than a power exchange thing

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:35:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		i always think as nilla as someone that would look down on me when they found out that i liked things that werent considered too bad in bdsm but to them was a terrifying act. 

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:42:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		is spectrophilia for real?? - that has to be one seriously frustrating fetish - i mean how many ghosts has anyone seen in a lifetime and of that number how many were up for a shag.

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:44:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

jeeze RS how long did that take or do you know all these 'ilias' off by heart! - and could that be construed as some sort of fetish all its own - impressive anyway and fascinating, thanks.



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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:44:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some of these are Vanilla, you decide which ones
1. A nose ring and bifocals
2. Spiked hair and bald spots
3. A pierced tongue and dentures
4. Miniskirts and support hose
5. Ankle bracelets and corn pads
6. Speedos and cellulite
7. A belly button ring and a gall bladder surgery scar
8. Unbuttoned disco shirts and a heart monitor
9. Midriff shirts and a midriff bulge
10. Bikinis and liver spots
11. Short shorts and varicose veins
12. In-line skates and a walker
13. Thongs and Depends!


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:50:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great question Lillyofthevalley. 
I find that I consider vanialla more a frame of mind; a retrictive (And often judgmental) one. 

ResidentSadist: paraphilias are different than just kinks.  Are you proposing that kink is vanilla? 

Ohnomasterbill: I think I'm scarred for life after reading that list. 
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 3:51:19 PM   
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:02:51 PM   
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Ohnomasterbill: I think I'm scarred for life after reading that list. 
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i just wasted a minute of my life (that i will never get back) looking for Ohnomasterbill on RS's list of fetishes and trying to imagine what it could possibly be to leave you so scarred.

....... just saying is all. tsk!

edited to add:  yes i am that easily confused and i realise after writing this just how phucking confused i really am.  time for bed i think.

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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:15:48 PM   
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:17:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DavanKael

ResidentSadist: paraphilias are different than just kinks. Are you proposing that kink is vanilla?

I am not proposing kink is vanilla. Please elaborate how a paraphilia is different than kink?


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:33:28 PM   
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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:41:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Imo there is no such thing as "vanilla"...that or I've never been "vanilla".

I've always dated dominant personality men whether they've heard of bdsm or not.
I've always been submissive to the men I've dated whether they ever heard of bdsm or not.
I've always enjoyed all the stuff we associate with bdsm even with men who have never heard of bdsm and long before I ever heard of bdsm. The men I've been with have always been into something "kinky". I've yet to meet a man who wasn't into something of the sort.

Imo people use the term "vanilla" to make it seem as if they are somehow different or special or set apart from everyone else when imo that just isn't the truth at all.


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RE: What is vanilla? - 8/30/2009 4:47:48 PM   
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