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FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Jimmy Carter Calls Bullshit on the Drama... (9/20/2009 11:58:05 PM)
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Thanks for your response Acer.quote:
ORIGINAL: Acer49
Obama has not done anything that will instill the confidence from the American public. Among the very first things Obama did, was speak to the Muslims, and extend an invitation to better diplomatic relations. This immediately got him insulted by the extremists, because diplomacy removes their insistence, that the US is too ignorant, and arrogant to try to understand the issues concerning other countries in the world... An excellent move, in my opinion.
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He is throwing money at the auto industry which needs to either sink or swim, just like every other business. He didn't throw enough in my opinion. If we are going to infuse billions-trillions of paper into banks which have mismanaged by lying and stealing to/from the populace, the very least we can do, is support American products, especially those still made in the USA.
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He is trying to pass a health care reform bill that has serious problems. But if no one has a job to pay for it, and it is the public that will pay for this disaster, does it really matter If the congress does not pass a single payer option, removing the middle man, insurance/for profit problem we currently have, I agree with you that it will be a collossall disaster, that will cost him the next election. I don't see how we can morally/financially continue to provide quality health care, and afford it, if the impetus is profit.
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This new idea about speaking to schools should be handled by the schools; the parents have the right to review all teaching material their child are exposed to and that includes Obama’s pep talks. He needs to get congress and the senate of their lazy asses and get them to do their jobs, as of late I have not seen much from them. Other than bitching and moaning about Obama I agree. I just thought it way over the top, when that lunatic was crying, along with Fix network, about watching an Ivy League educated man speak, who has never been heard uttering a fowl word... Everyone should have reacted that way when Bush was speaking. He lied his way into a war that bankrupted the US, and couldn't speak English.
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The fact that he is black has no bearing I wish I could agree. I don't think it's the only factor in the reactions, but it is a factor.
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If there had been anyone who wanted the job, Obama would have never made it to the white house. Didn't the race begin with 8 or more people running between the Democrats and Republicans, and Obama was the last man standing?
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The reality is, the powers that be, will let him live and fail so that he will be referred to in history, as the black experiment that failed. Contradict yourself much? His color isn't a factor in anything, but he will be seen as the black experiment that failed?
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I do not really think he will be reelected for a second term. I personally don't care if the president is white, black or poka-dotted, I just want this country fixed. There are no polka dotted people, but I'm glad you don't care abouth the ethnic mix of the president. I too want this country fixed, and I did, when I voted for him, think he was the man most capable for the job. He's only been in office 9 months, so let us wait, and let time tell.
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Kirata
Maybe the notion that unless you can read minds, the racism you perceive in other people is probably your own I really wish it were this simple Kirata. I've never been too proud to change my mind when facts in evidence have proven me to be wrong. I know that perceptions are affected by our knowledge and experience, but that is all we are expressing here, after all.
I cannot make this a personal explanation however, so you'll have to go with your own knowledge of history, and what SpinnerofTales saidquote:
If they want to send out pictures of the white house turned into a watermelon patch or Obama as a witch doctor with a bone through his nose, then they have a constitutional right to do so. That doesn't mean it's not disgusting, racist and deplorable.
The problem is that the racism in this country is not vestigal, Kitara. Mostly it's just gone underground. Now people don't refuse to hire black people and say "I don't hire niggers". They just don't hire black people. That not only allows them to be racists, but allows others to ignore the racism.
If you look at the statistics, you'll find that black people as a group have a lot lower income than white people as a group. They also have a lower life expectancy, a far higher chance of being incarcerated, and longer average prison sentences than white people convicted of equivalent crimes. These things can be explained away in a whole lot of ways if you try hard enough, but I am of the belief that there is a very strong racial component to these figures. I also think that it is in the perceived self-interest of the privileged group, of which I am am member, to pretend that that privilege doesn't exist.
I already knew the meaning of projection, but thanks for trying to help. I'm the first to ask myself "why do I feel this way?" when something evokes an emotion in me. I don't disagree with most of the other things you've said. I could find you some links on disparities in the US among different ethnic groups, indicating we're not yet over the hurdle... But you express yourself in such a way, that I trust any ignorance on this matter is willfull or inconvenient. M
Again, I thank everyone for your input. [sm=flowers.gif]
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