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DavanKael -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/20/2009 10:16:21 PM)

I perved your profile and you're looking for TPE complete with willingness to indulge in body mods to make her more pleasing to you.  Now, while some might be willing or eager to be sliced and diced to your idea of perfection (Especially if it's on your dime), others, like myself, would say, "You're outta your freakin' mind; I have to live in my skin for the duration and hacking/marking/whatever-ing it up for someone is pretty extreme, imo and I am not apt to call most things estreme. 
Best wishes,
  Davan




Bimtrain -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/20/2009 10:49:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Acer49
When I first read your post, I was thinking, 19 out of 20, seems pretty reasonable and that I could not understand why you were being treated so harshly, so I decided to look at your profile. I give you credits for that as many do not put anything. However…

Well after reviewing your profile I can see that the type of women you desire might be a little hard to find. While there is nothing wrong with wanting one to be healthy and try to look desirable as possible, requiring extensive body modifications it a little bit over the top. I am afraid only someone would have to want to be truly objectified would consider this to be acceptable possibility. Let us say, you were able to find such a woman, and she hands you a list of 10-15 things which require surgery for you. Are you willing to do the same thing that you are requiring of her?

I am afraid whoever gave you your definition of beauty did you a grave injustice. I can with 100% certainty that ones beauty is not determined by one’s outer packaging. Beauty is love, devotion, caring, trusting, and honesty.

I think that many may view you as one dimensional as you’re life focus is simply on one thing, sex. What value do you have to one another the other 22-23 hours of the day? You speak nothing of desiring true intimacy between yourself and your partner. You speak nothing of your partner’s value as a woman or as a human being. I must caution you that to make such requirements simply to be considered worthy of your manhood may backfire on you. While I am sure it would not be as fulfilling a 4.99 vibrator and two “C” batteries will get the job done for many women.

A quote from your profile
“She's generally pretty helpless and needs help doing anything I haven't already trained her well to do. She will want to surrender control of her entire life to her Master.”

Helpless; does the thought of a strong woman threaten you? Or do you have a need to micro manage as well? You profile, I am afraid, may give some the impression that you are a very insecure individual lacking in self esteem. This verified by your obsessive focus on the desire to look perfect when in view of others.

I am sorry but your profile suggests nothing as to your desire or ability to be a well rounded dominant, much less someone who would be comfortable in a TPE. I truly hope that when asked about previous experience, you can produce 10 years live-in experience that can be verified. But in all fairness, I guess it does not take much to tell someone to spread your legs, bend over or suck my….

I am afraid the stress of always being perfect may wear very heavily on most, for fear you may at some point feel them not perfect enough, despite all the surguries, exercise and make up, terminate the relationship, no matter how devoted they had been

I did not post this to degrade or disgrace you, but to simply show you how you might be being perceived. Good luck and I hope you get what you looking for



I can see why you came to many of the conclusions you did but you have me quite wrong. First of all, I do work very hard on my body and appearance. Even the pictures in my profile don't do me justice as I doubled my workout regimen after that shoot. I would totally consider any surgery or whatever is necessary to be perfect for my partner as well. But that's not even the point. The girls I've contacted have either said they want to be modified to fit their owners desires or had something that gave me the impression that they might in which case I would ask early. If they don't want that then that's perfectly fine. We go our separate ways.

As for your definition of beauty, do you think you're the first person to give that "beauty is on the inside" speech? Do you think that after nearly thirty years on this earth I haven't heard it? I've dated countless women of all kinds, have fallen in and out of love and have come to find that only a certain kind do it for me. Yes, I've dated and nearly married very beautiful, STRONG women and no, they didn't even have an outside chance of intimidating me (The thought is humorous though). They did however bore me and I'm tired of coming up with an excuse for why my cock is on 70% hard when I fuck them. I'm don't have the heart to tell them it's because they're boring to me.

You have me nailed as a control freak. I do exercise control over all aspects of my life. Not out of insecurity but because I truly believe that if you want something done right you do it yourself. I leave nothing up to other people or chance or fate or whatever. I know that I would be fulfilled in a TPE relationship. I know this like I know anything else about me. Introspection is a constant theme in my life.

10 years experience? Really??? lol. I've always found the whole "you have to have experience to get experience" kind of...well...retarded. I know what I want, I know what I'm capable of and I know that I succeed at anything I commit myself to. I understand this is a commitment and I have yet to let anyone down whom I've committed to.

Finally, when I say perfection, it is not the end result that I desire. I want a woman who WANTS to look perfect and tried like hell to do so. I'm realistic and have realistic expectations. She would never have to worry about being left for greener pastures. I understand what a commitment is and when I make one I stick to it.




Elipsis -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 12:06:53 AM)

Perfect is such a dangerous word.

I could never live up to my own definition of perfection, let alone expect someone else to.

Maybe this is obvious so forgive me, but "perfect" for one person is far from the ideal for someone else.




Bimtrain -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 1:34:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Elipsis

Perfect is such a dangerous word.

I could never live up to my own definition of perfection, let alone expect someone else to.

Maybe this is obvious so forgive me, but "perfect" for one person is far from the ideal for someone else.



As I said before, it is not perfection I seek. It is someone who will strive for perfection. Coming up short is to be expected.




thishereboi -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 4:03:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

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ORIGINAL: FawneTwo


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ORIGINAL: windchymes
His life is very full and enriching for him.....  And a beautiful, perfect fuckdoll would make it complete.


Exactly! [:)]


Well, if a girl comes along who wants nothing more out of her life than what he proposes, then more power to them, and I'll be glad they both have found each other.


Well yea, but if she really fits his "perfect girl" description of...

"She's generally pretty helpless and needs help doing anything I haven't already trained her well to do."

Then how is she going to know how to use the internet to find him?




thishereboi -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 4:11:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: roughleather

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"Fuckdoll" is a weekend fantasy, not a way of life.  Sorry.


Right.  The "24/7 slave" thing is mostly a fantasy. It doesn't work well in real life.

On the other hand, being used as a sex slave for a night or a weekend is a common female desire. Your job as a dominant is to make that happen. When it comes off right, it's a great experience for both partners.



We had no problems with living 24/7 and still functioning in the real world. I know a lot of people who have no problems with it as well. What makes you think it doesn't work in real life?




daintydimples -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 4:34:42 AM)

I had to go back and read the entire thread just to make sure I had it right.

To the OP: strong women bore you, but a helpless perfect looking sex doll would not?

Now, I understand you think the sex doll would keep your dick hard all day. I think you'd find her "perfection" would pall in time, as physical attraction can only engage so much of your brain.

That you think sexual attraction is primarily physical says a great deal about you.

Unless and until you are capable of finding a female's brain attractive, you're going to be a very frustrated human being.

Despite your great  and lucrative career and your gorgeous outer shell, I feel sorry for you.











lusciouslips19 -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 4:42:40 AM)

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As for your definition of beauty, do you think you're the first person to give that "beauty is on the inside" speech? Do you think that after nearly thirty years on this earth I haven't heard it? I've dated countless women of all kinds, have fallen in and out of love and have come to find that only a certain kind do it for me. Yes, I've dated and nearly married very beautiful, STRONG women and no, they didn't even have an outside chance of intimidating me (The thought is humorous though). They did however bore me and I'm tired of coming up with an excuse for why my cock is on 70% hard when I fuck them. I'm don't have the heart to tell them it's because they're boring to me.


If you are as intelligent as you say you are, than having a mindless perfect doll will not take away your boredom. What if someone came into your life who was plain of face and body but grew more beautiful to you because of her personality? A person so engaging that she lit up a room and lit up your heart? You think its imposible for you to find that unless shes physically working on perfect? I dont think so. I believe that one who is so fixated on their appearance to that obsessive a degree would be rather self centered. Also, a helpless person who is focused on her beauty and has no other life; what will you talk about? Do you want to spend your time talking about hair makeup and clothes and that she got a pedicure today and her shopping trips? Because thats what you will get. That REALLY would make you less bored???




CarrieO -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 5:30:49 AM)

Well, This thread seems to have gone in an interesting direction since last night.

Just a few things I'd like to touch on......

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ORIGINAL: Bimtrain

I've dated countless women of all kinds, have fallen in and out of love and have come to find that only a certain kind do it for me. Yes, I've dated and nearly married very beautiful, STRONG women and no, they didn't even have an outside chance of intimidating me (The thought is humorous though). They did however bore me and I'm tired of coming up with an excuse for why my cock is on 70% hard when I fuck them. I'm don't have the heart to tell them it's because they're boring to me.


Why?  Why do you find strong beautiful women to be boring?  I have a feeling these women do intimidate you, but maybe not in a way you're willing to admit.

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You have me nailed as a control freak. I do exercise control over all aspects of my life. Not out of insecurity but because I truly believe that if you want something done right you do it yourself. I leave nothing up to other people or chance or fate or whatever. I know that I would be fulfilled in a TPE relationship. I know this like I know anything else about me. Introspection is a constant theme in my life.


What happens when you can't control a person or situation?  Kind of like the reason for starting this thread...someone shut you down and you had no control over how or why.  The way you've responded to people, myself included, who have pointed out the folly in trying to control a person's manners, or lack thereof, online is a pretty good example, I think.

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10 years experience? Really??? lol. I've always found the whole "you have to have experience to get experience" kind of...well...retarded. I know what I want, I know what I'm capable of and I know that I succeed at anything I commit myself to. I understand this is a commitment and I have yet to let anyone down whom I've committed to.
 

I suggest you go back and re-read this quoted part and give it a bit more thought.  How else will a person gain experience without going through the experience?  While you may believe you can succeed at anything you commit yourself to, I get the feeling you haven't expereinced what it is you want.  Be careful what you wish for...you just might get it.  Then what?

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Finally, when I say perfection, it is not the end result that I desire. I want a woman who WANTS to look perfect and tried like hell to do so. I'm realistic and have realistic expectations. She would never have to worry about being left for greener pastures. I understand what a commitment is and when I make one I stick to it.


You "want a woman who wants to look perfect and tried like hell to do so" yet I wonder if you understand what you may have on your hands with such a woman.  One who has strived for the golden ring only to realize she can't do it without you...and a doctor's help.  I would hope you never let her down since I have the feeling this perfect doll will have nothing to fall back on.

You say she wouldn't have to worry about you moving on to greener pastures...what happens when nature, and gravity, takes control of your stepford wife?  If you look at this from a long-term realistic standpoint, what will happen when you can no longer do surgeries/botox/implants?  Are you experienced enough to handle a real woman instead of a blow-up doll? 

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I suppose the hope that an online conversation will turn into a real life relationship leads me to treat the person on the other end the way I would treat someone in real life. I'm starting to see that this is a foolish way to conduct online conversations.


No, your mistake is assuming your expectations will be met when dealing with a person online.  See...it really does come back to your expectations and how you handle them in the real world.




happylittlepet -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 6:20:15 AM)

FR, after read through

What happens if one (or more) of those body modifications i.e. surgeries goes wrong?




Prinsexx -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 6:50:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bimtrain

I'm sure I'm not the first person on here to post about this but I feel like I keep encountering the same situation.

In short it goes like this:

1. Sub lists twenty things she desires for/from her Dom and life as a sub/slave.
2. Dom says 19 of those are what he's looking for as well.
3. Sub basically tells Dom to fuck off.


I'm over simplifying but still... I know if I expected every condition of every situation I go into to be met I'd be living a very miserable and unfulfilling life.

And spare me the "everyone has a right to require what they want" speech. We're still talking about relationships here and no relationship in the history of this planet has ever been 100% perfect. Whether D/s, vanilla or otherwise, they ALL require compromise to one degree or another!

P.S. I've posted on the boards under my other profile before.

The search for 'perfection' rather than the search for 'person' is something created as a function of the internet.
Edited to add: now I'm the perfect person so work that one out.




RavenMuse -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 7:05:13 AM)

I don't seek perfection I seek compatibility. There are some things that have to be there else We are not compatible... doesn't matter if they tick every other box there is, if they don't tick that one and it is something I require then... hasta la vista, nice try but no cigar. Other things just have to be good enough or good enough and willing to work with Me to improve. Sometimes someone comes along that honestly doesn't know, they believe they are suitable, their reactions are right but they haven't experienced it long term so don't KNOW... Then You either take the chance or You don't, try and build something and if months down the line it doesn't work... you go Your different ways with some wonderful shared memorys.

Regarding one point raised in this thread though... Luckily I don't think with My dick.... a brain dead barbie doll would bore the crap out of ME before there was even the chance to find out if she was any good in the sack. A pretty face, nice ass and great pair of legs will catch My attention for a moment of time but she better have a brain else she won't keep My attention beyond that moment. Maybe I'm just too picky like that?




looking4princess -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 7:57:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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I'm just taking his profile at face value.  I don't get a vibe of him wanting anymore more than a fuckdoll.  His life is very full and enriching for him.....  And a beautiful, perfect fuckdoll would make it complete.


At least until he bites her on the neck where she suddenly farts and flies out the window!! Maybe he should look for one with a patch kit?

I have read a lot of profiles on CM and there seem to be a lot of submissives, both men and women, who report they are eagerly willing to give up their lives and identities in a manner that would suit the OP's Profile desires. God help them if they are serious. But, given the abundance of declared willing prey, why is the OP having such a hard time snatching his victim? Oh gosh, do you suppose because so much of it is just fantasy, and people aren't really so stupid? Hmmmm....




Andalusite -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 8:06:42 AM)

Yup, the OP comes across fairly strongly as being into the cyber-only fantasy. I'm sure vapid airheads are so interesting to talk with, as are the beach-bunnies who are actually intelligent, but deliberately pretend to not have a thought in their little heads when they're around men. NZ, I agree that wanting a "fuckdoll" is fairly common in D/s and M/s, but most women don't want extensive plastic surgery to go with it.

Roughleather, I'm a slave 24/7, just like I'm his girlfriend 24/7 - I don't start and stop, and have different times to express that "role," although we do damp things down in public. I don't live with him, like I did with my submissive in the past, so it's harder to express the dynamic on a daily basis. I agree that literal 24-hour focus on it is impossible - I can't control my dreams, and if I'm working or spending time with relatives, I'm busy with what I'm actually *doing*.




LadyPact -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:26:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CarrieO

Well, This thread seems to have gone in an interesting direction since last night.

Just a few things I'd like to touch on......

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bimtrain

I've dated countless women of all kinds, have fallen in and out of love and have come to find that only a certain kind do it for me. Yes, I've dated and nearly married very beautiful, STRONG women and no, they didn't even have an outside chance of intimidating me (The thought is humorous though). They did however bore me and I'm tired of coming up with an excuse for why my cock is on 70% hard when I fuck them. I'm don't have the heart to tell them it's because they're boring to me.


Why?  Why do you find strong beautiful women to be boring?  I have a feeling these women do intimidate you, but maybe not in a way you're willing to admit.

quote:


You have me nailed as a control freak. I do exercise control over all aspects of my life. Not out of insecurity but because I truly believe that if you want something done right you do it yourself. I leave nothing up to other people or chance or fate or whatever. I know that I would be fulfilled in a TPE relationship. I know this like I know anything else about me. Introspection is a constant theme in my life.


What happens when you can't control a person or situation?  Kind of like the reason for starting this thread...someone shut you down and you had no control over how or why.  The way you've responded to people, myself included, who have pointed out the folly in trying to control a person's manners, or lack thereof, online is a pretty good example, I think.

quote:


10 years experience? Really??? lol. I've always found the whole "you have to have experience to get experience" kind of...well...retarded. I know what I want, I know what I'm capable of and I know that I succeed at anything I commit myself to. I understand this is a commitment and I have yet to let anyone down whom I've committed to.
 

I suggest you go back and re-read this quoted part and give it a bit more thought.  How else will a person gain experience without going through the experience?  While you may believe you can succeed at anything you commit yourself to, I get the feeling you haven't expereinced what it is you want.  Be careful what you wish for...you just might get it.  Then what?

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Finally, when I say perfection, it is not the end result that I desire. I want a woman who WANTS to look perfect and tried like hell to do so. I'm realistic and have realistic expectations. She would never have to worry about being left for greener pastures. I understand what a commitment is and when I make one I stick to it.


You "want a woman who wants to look perfect and tried like hell to do so" yet I wonder if you understand what you may have on your hands with such a woman.  One who has strived for the golden ring only to realize she can't do it without you...and a doctor's help.  I would hope you never let her down since I have the feeling this perfect doll will have nothing to fall back on.

You say she wouldn't have to worry about you moving on to greener pastures...what happens when nature, and gravity, takes control of your stepford wife?  If you look at this from a long-term realistic standpoint, what will happen when you can no longer do surgeries/botox/implants?  Are you experienced enough to handle a real woman instead of a blow-up doll? 

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I suppose the hope that an online conversation will turn into a real life relationship leads me to treat the person on the other end the way I would treat someone in real life. I'm starting to see that this is a foolish way to conduct online conversations.


No, your mistake is assuming your expectations will be met when dealing with a person online.  See...it really does come back to your expectations and how you handle them in the real world.


CarrieO, I just want to thank you for saving Me the keystrokes.




Lockit -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:32:57 AM)

Why do I have pictures of sceen's from Rock of Love flashing through my head?




CarrieO -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:36:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

CarrieO, I just want to thank you for saving Me the keystrokes.



You're quite welcome.




LaTigresse -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:40:05 AM)

What I find humorous is that he feels he is perfect yet, if I wanted, I could create a fairly long list of imperfections I've seen in him. And I haven't even considered attitude and personality.......lack thereof.




mnottertail -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:41:49 AM)

Wow, has he cammed for you then?

Ron




LaTigresse -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/21/2009 9:44:47 AM)

Not yet, and I doubt he could afford that luxury.

I don't risk my vision without sufficient insurance.




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