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Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST read o... - 9/23/2009 12:10:29 PM   
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http://sites.google.com/site/911vax/

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 12:15:38 PM   
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wine flu shot

figures...they finally come up with a vaccine that i really want, and already it is being criticized.



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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 12:17:34 PM   
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Yet another american conspiracy theory, reading that crap'll rot your brain dude.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 12:45:30 PM   
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I still don't understand why they haven't rounded you up in the middle of the night for revealing all their nefarious plans PA...are they afraid of you?

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:06:40 PM   
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Yet another american conspiracy theory, reading that crap'll rot your brain dude.


How would you explain that the filer is from Harvard?

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:08:56 PM   
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wine flu shot

figures...they finally come up with a vaccine that i really want, and already it is being criticized.




I believe in free choice.    Do your own research and then you decide what is right for you.  :-)  One size does not fit all.

From what a gather it is the cumulative effect of a too may vaccines which is the problem.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:10:32 PM   
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I still don't understand why they haven't rounded you up in the middle of the night for revealing all their nefarious plans PA...are they afraid of you?


In 40,000 hears of history- peace and harmony is the exception.    Enjoy today as we cant know what tomorrow is.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:10:36 PM   
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Oh, not more of this conspiracy theory bollocks.
Maybe somebody could explain why Swine Flu is such a good thing if they have a problem with vaccination shots? (I'd imagine it's the same people who think that the MMR shots cause autism, come to that. I'd love to have a child suffer a dose of polio myself.)

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:23:36 PM   
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Oh, not more of this conspiracy theory bollocks.
Maybe somebody could explain why Swine Flu is such a good thing if they have a problem with vaccination shots? (I'd imagine it's the same people who think that the MMR shots cause autism, come to that. I'd love to have a child suffer a dose of polio myself.)


Of course there is a swine flu.  It is contained with in the vaccine.

I am not addressing Polio Vax.

When you consider-  Neurtotin, bextra, Celebrex and a range of flawed meds- throw in that the medical grid is monetized and junk science since 1980.

You could throw in the mercury that is in HFCS foods....

I offer you my dose of this vaccine.   :-)

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:47:41 PM   
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Well done!

I used to buy flu vaccinations because of my impaired immune system. I benefited very much from them. Two rather mild flu's instead of six vehement ones and many colds each year.

Because of rumors like this, which I deem credible, I already decided some months ago to no longer buy these vaccinations. I will suffer because of that decision, and may die from that decision. For a normal, healthy person, I used to advise against any vaccination in any case. Now I am considering that even elderly and weak persons might do well to avoid vaccinations of whatever type.

I wonder when the smallpox will 'accidentally' escape from a laboratory...

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 1:51:34 PM   
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? (I'd imagine it's the same people who think that the MMR shots cause autism, come to that. I'd love to have a child suffer a dose of polio myself.)
as the mom of an Autistic child, your joke is not appriciated.

It is a proven fact that mercury can damage the undeveloped brain of an unborn child, hence the reason pregnant moms are strongly advised to avoid foods with a high mercury content. Since the brain does not fully develop until near adulthood, it was understandable that the vaccines containing mercury were suspected to be the cause of Autism, which generally presents when the child is between 3-5 years old.





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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 2:06:08 PM   
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His site was taken down-  so "I' reposted in.    ^ stands up ^ ^ takes a bow^

Well done!

I used to buy flu vaccinations because of my impaired immune system. I benefited very much from them. Two rather mild flu's instead of six vehement ones and many colds each year.

Because of rumors like this, which I deem credible, I already decided some months ago to no longer buy these vaccinations. I will suffer because of that decision, and may die from that decision. For a normal, healthy person, I used to advise against any vaccination in any case. Now I am considering that even elderly and weak persons might do well to avoid vaccinations of whatever type.

I wonder when the smallpox will 'accidentally' escape from a laboratory...



This go around is not the big one.  It is a beta test.   I am pretty sure it is not the big one.

I too have had many shots.   Certainly there have been some benefits.

Vitamin D could help- sunlight.    The average person gets 3 colds a year.   Think of this is a dress rehearsal. I don't think there will be a huge problem in the next year or two.

The powers that be want to know how the public will react to forced vaccinations.




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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 2:21:16 PM   
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? (I'd imagine it's the same people who think that the MMR shots cause autism, come to that. I'd love to have a child suffer a dose of polio myself.)
as the mom of an Autistic child, your joke is not appriciated.

It is a proven fact that mercury can damage the undeveloped brain of an unborn child, hence the reason pregnant moms are strongly advised to avoid foods with a high mercury content. Since the brain does not fully develop until near adulthood, it was understandable that the vaccines containing mercury were suspected to be the cause of Autism, which generally presents when the child is between 3-5 years old.

The MMR vaccine never contained Thimerosol or any other source of mercury. Mercury is the boogey man of the US anti vaccine crowd. MMR is the UK equivalent. Neither MMR nor mercury causes autism.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 2:47:26 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)

At some point the "science" of medicine has gotten sloppy.  Possibly over the quest for profits- $.

80% of viruses - the mouth- ears- nose and eyes filter.    That is why a vax in general is a possible threat.

I got the series of 3 shots for hepatitis.   My then job was with the retarded where a resident was hep pos.  

I KNOW that a hokie DR over did steroidal shots with me.  When I refused- he get furious.   Sent me a certified  letter saying I was dismissed. 

People need to ask questions about everything.   Particularly a government that thinks they are bigger then god.



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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 3:44:31 PM   
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Adults over 40 don't need the H1N1 vaccine, odds are we all had it 20 years ago. But damn straight my college kid and high schooler are getting it. Especially the older who would destabilize if she had to be hospitalized.

And he isn't from Harvard, just said he went there. Doesn't say it was for more than one summer school course either.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 3:56:42 PM   
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Now I am considering that even elderly and weak persons might do well to avoid vaccinations of whatever type.


Whilst I did not read the link from the OP as it does not really interest me that much, I still have to say that I am glad that the nursing homes I know have a different view to you in that respect and simply ask their elderlies if they want it or not. Many of them take it as after all, it is still the better option for them then to take them then the risk of the flu. Also my grandparents used to get their flu shots and in particular to my grandma I am glad she did as I would not be surprised that she would have died earlier with the risk from flu due to her health issues she had.

And in regards to avoiding vaccinations of whatever type...thank goodness I had my shots as a child and teenager considering how often I had my cuts from all my adventures in the forest and whatever other playgrounds I used to have.

I simply disagree to seeing it only from the one side as after all, they still have a pretty good reason and function to be there.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 4:12:44 PM   
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My mother had polio, my mother in law had it too, just months before the vaccination came out. To see these women struggle all their lives to make do with a only about a quarter of their muscles working properly, and then in their sixties, to have the overworked muscles wear out and them revert to what they were as adolescents, bedridden, is something you would never wish on your worst enemy.

The m in law now has emphesema (sp), she hasnt smoked in over 20 years, much of the sudden severity of it is because of the polio damage to her lungs. Post polio Syndrome.

The ex was on immune system suppressents for an auto immune disorder. The school would not honor our request to not put our kids in classes with nonvaccinated kids. The risk was everyday that the kids would bring something home unknowing that their classmate would come out with whooping cough or measles in the morning.

Grandparent taking chemo? Not allowed to see the kids for fear of them passing on a severe illness.

Damn straight we get vaccinated here.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 4:13:08 PM   
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Ordinarily I would agree with you. However, there have been various indications that the people who rule us intend to use vaccins to sterilize men and / or women. If so, I hope they do so at random and do allow one to five percent of the vaccins to be safe.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 4:14:55 PM   
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I am sorry for your relatives. Polio is one of the horrible diseases.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/23/2009 4:35:13 PM   
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My mother had polio, my mother in law had it too, just months before the vaccination came out. To see these women struggle all their lives to make do with a only about a quarter of their muscles working properly, and then in their sixties, to have the overworked muscles wear out and them revert to what they were as adolescents, bedridden, is something you would never wish on your worst enemy.

The m in law now has emphesema (sp), she hasnt smoked in over 20 years, much of the sudden severity of it is because of the polio damage to her lungs. Post polio Syndrome.

The ex was on immune system suppressents for an auto immune disorder. The school would not honor our request to not put our kids in classes with nonvaccinated kids. The risk was everyday that the kids would bring something home unknowing that their classmate would come out with whooping cough or measles in the morning.

Grandparent taking chemo? Not allowed to see the kids for fear of them passing on a severe illness.

Damn straight we get vaccinated here.


Around non vaccinated.  -- well I thought the vaccine fixed that?  So it would not matter if near or not near others...as assuming the vax was effective it would shield against the virus.

I don't know exactly when science became junk science.   I suspect 1980.   Pick a day.   Certainly there are some good ones.... and medicine is a blessing.

What I don't like is the government forcing a vaccination.  One on an untested vaccine, and where the maker has immunity on any lawsuits.   Of which the people who make the vax will not allow they themself to get the shot.

Dr Montief thinks the vaccine will be more damaging in Europe then in the USA>   One herbalist is pushes herbals for those who got the vax and want to flush it out.  

Also Jane Burgermeister is suing the UN, and others on this defective vaccine.

Some will only get sick on this.  Some will get sick simply because they will live- the ordeal when others get anything remotely like the sniffles. 

People GET the flu.

What this will do- is insert into the body this germ.  Your immune system will be weakened. It is a later shot that will kill alot of people and be "the big one".

If it was safe- why does the manufacrurer imune from lawsuits?

Being that I live near Merck- large maker in the world- the medical center did not like me emailing them over the topic.

But- this one is NOT going to go away.   Protests are planned across the country.   You might not see it.... but there is an outcry on this particular peice of junk science.

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