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SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 11:27:50 AM)

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Good luck trying to get through to him Kirata - I don't think he even realizes that he does it or that there's a problem with it. He even starts threads begging, "Can we please stop doing this shit?" but what he fails to realize is that he's the one of the worst ones here for doing it. ORIGINAL: Sanity




First of all, Sanity, I don't beg. I suggest. Second, as for being one of the worst offenders, how about we make a little wager on this. First one to use the "the other side did it" comment loses. You choose the term.

I believe the term "put up or shut up" is appropriate. (said with a smile and all due good feeling)





SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 11:30:08 AM)

deleted to avoid double posting..or double daring.




Kirata -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 11:35:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

I believe the term "put up or shut up" is appropriate. (said with a smile and all due good feeling)

Double-posting? Whoa, calm down Spinner... don't let that good feeling rattle you. [:D]

K.




tazzygirl -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 11:54:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Well, I'm definitely behind on this thread.

Tazzy posted the same information, which I didn't see till after I posted this, but I'll let it stand since it's a different source.

The ABC's of Immigration: Citizenship Rules for People Born ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View
passage of citizenship to children born outside the US to one or more US citizen parents. ... Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother who met the ... recently published by the American Immigration Lawyers Association. ...
www.lexisnexis.com/practiceareas/immigration/pdfs/web704.pdf


As before, children born abroad to two US citizens, with one parent having resided in the
US, the child was a US citizen at birth. No further action was required to maintain citizenship.


When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent
must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five
of the years after the age of 14.

An exception for people serving in the military was
created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.







Whew.. thought i was on ignore for a few moments there... quit doing that!!! [:D]




rulemylife -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 12:05:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Claiming that Bush was an illegitimate president who murdered millions of people for profit doesn't even come close?

Seriously... [8|]


No..................seriously.

When Obama's supposed socialist policies were compared to the New Deal, many on these boards argued that FDR had ulterior motives for entering WWII.

Johnson's escalation in Vietnam has long been questioned (the Gulf of Tonkin incident).

The Bush administration's primary reason for war was proven false.  So they were either lying or seriously incompetent.

The point being, all these charges had some basis in fact.

The claims of Obama's Kenyan birth and Clinton being a drug dealer and murderer are pure bullshit dreamed up by right wing whack jobs.









SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 12:30:52 PM)

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The Bush administration's primary reason for war was proven false. So they were either lying or seriously incompetent.
ORIGINAL: rulemylife




Does this really need to be an either or answer?




SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 12:32:18 PM)

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Double-posting? Whoa, calm down Spinner... don't let that good feeling rattle you.
ORIGINAL: Kirata



More like a hardware glitch....but if you want in, feel free...In fact, any who want to join may. Let's see who's "master of their own domain" as it were.




Lucylastic -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 12:34:52 PM)

I go for both





Sanity -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 12:39:16 PM)


That doesn't follow. Why should I agree to let you forget the extreme, beyond extreme, fanatical partisanship that the left flaunted while Bush was president.

Can you name even one good reason?


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales
First of all, Sanity, I don't beg. I suggest. Second, as for being one of the worst offenders, how about we make a little wager on this. First one to use the "the other side did it" comment loses. You choose the term.

I believe the term "put up or shut up" is appropriate. (said with a smile and all due good feeling)







CreativeDominant -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:17:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

This issue would be too big if it came to light that so many people were accomplices to this level of fraud. Not to mention the many news organizations who have said they have touched and verified the authenticity of his birth certificate. As crooked as i believe our government can be, i find it extremely hard that even they can cover this up to this extent without someone getting nervous about it biting them in the ass later.
Yes, all those many news organizations that have touched and verified the authenticity of his birth certificate and yet still have not come forward with a picture of it.

Personally, I could care less about the birth certificate B.S., there are bigger issues to deal with...the economy, the health care "reform", etc., etc..  So why doesn't the man himself quell it and show how much he believes in transparency, especially regarding something so very simple?




mnottertail -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:19:54 PM)

bout the same reason we couldnt get at Bushes service record, or?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:21:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Its just fucking hilarious to watch you left-wing types clutching your chests and falling to the ground, writhing around in agony and acting like you're having heart attacks because anyone would DARE to besmirch a president...

After eight years of Bush!


If I give you a quarter will you try to remember the last eiight years of history?



If I give you a quarter will you read DK's link in post # 10 and cite me just one incident of "besmirching" Bush that rose to the level of insinuating Clinton was a drug dealer and murderer.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...off the top of my head, how about "Bush lied...people died"?




DomKen -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:21:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

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There's the one about the AWOL Chimp-In-Chief who stole the election so he could lie to get us into a war for Haliburton...
ORIGINAL: Sanity




Your point is well taken and very true, Sanity. This is a vile smear of the former POTUS. There has been no reasonable proof offered that Bush was a chimp.


Actually an argument can be made that humans are a species of chimpanzee. [:D]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Chimpanzee




DomKen -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:23:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Its just fucking hilarious to watch you left-wing types clutching your chests and falling to the ground, writhing around in agony and acting like you're having heart attacks because anyone would DARE to besmirch a president...

After eight years of Bush!


If I give you a quarter will you try to remember the last eiight years of history?



If I give you a quarter will you read DK's link in post # 10 and cite me just one incident of "besmirching" Bush that rose to the level of insinuating Clinton was a drug dealer and murderer.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...off the top of my head, how about "Bush lied...people died"?

?
Are you claiming Bush didn't lie or are you claiming no one died?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:26:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

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Do you want to insist that we all pretend that everything is happening in a vacuum.Spinner? You are welcome to such a psychosis if you like, but don't seek validation of it here, and certainly don't try to impose it on those of us who have been awake in this century. ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

And actually Spinner, Sanity's comment that you responded to that brought about your response above was a comment made to Ellipsis...Ellipsis had made a snide comment about the right wing media and Sanity responded in kind.  If you want to look at it in the way you did when you responded to Sanity, where is your same comment to Ellipsis?


Ok...I'll bite. Tell me ONE way no matter how small or insignificant, that the controversy over Bush's election is germane to the discussion of Obama's citizenship. I don't mean "well if you lefties hadn't so unreasonably questioned Bush's election we noble conservatives wouldn't be so reasonably be questioning Obama's citizenship" nonsense. I mean why is the way Bush was treated have a damn thing to do with the situation. Why is it any different from me saying "How dare you talk about the health care plan? Remember that a republican stole my cab a year ago!"

Bullshit, I said and bullshit I still say.






SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:32:41 PM)

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That doesn't follow. Why should I agree to let you forget the extreme, beyond extreme, fanatical partisanship that the left flaunted while Bush was president.

Can you name even one good reason? ORIGINAL: Sanity



Let' see:
1) It's boring
2) It's repetitive
3) It's irrelevant
4) It does nothing to advance any discussion you inject it into
5) It encourages left wingers to post "but look at what Bush did" posts that fit points 1-3

How's that for a start?





CreativeDominant -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:33:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rikigrl

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I wonder if there'd have been a similar load of crap about citizenship coming from the Democrats if McCain (who was born in Panama rather than the 'States) had won?


No, because "John McCain" is a good ol' 'merican name.
Actually, t'would be because John McCain was born at Cocomo Air Base in the Panama Canal Zone.  The law states that children born to military parent(s) on U.S. military installation in other countries are considered to be U.S. citizens.




Lucylastic -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:34:39 PM)

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
yeah they have shown it and months ago too
check out politifact too





Kirata -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:34:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

Let' see:
1) It's boring
2) It's repetitive
3) It's irrelevant
4) It does nothing to advance any discussion you inject it into
5) It encourages left wingers to post "but look at what Bush did" posts that fit points 1-3

1-3, but not 4, eh?

[sm=biggrin.gif]

K.








SpinnerofTales -> RE: Anti-Obama Group Rolls Out New Birther Informercial In 7 States (9/26/2009 1:38:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

Let' see:
1) It's boring
2) It's repetitive
3) It's irrelevant
4) It does nothing to advance any discussion you inject it into
5) It encourages left wingers to post "but look at what Bush did" posts that fit points 1-3

1-3, but not 4, eh?

[sm=biggrin.gif]

K.

ORIGINAL Kitara




I stand corrected....thanks for the typo check.....make that points 1-4.





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