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artglfr -> RE: My master just passed (3/5/2006 9:30:28 AM)
It appears you are getting great advice and chose a good place to come with your pain. the tree planting is great advice and I think keeping up the protocols is good also. Munches will help you meet others but please listen to all the good people here who have advised you to take it SLOW. Good things come to those that wait.

thetammyjo -> RE: Huge update (3/5/2006 9:42:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EasyE Well it is amazing how life works out. I emailed my master one last time hoping his family would hear my condolences. As it turns out his fellow master brother intercepted this email. Here is what I got back: "hello boy It is true from an accident. I have read the messages between you and My Brother and He and I have talked about you. I know that you are his slave boy. If you don't already know, slaves are property and passed on as such. Therefore you are now mine as well as the pics you have already sent. I will address you as boy. you will address Me as MASTER or MASTER JAMES. you will always capitalize these when you email. I will continue mailing you from My Brothers address rather than converting you to My own. <OMIT> My brother liked you. He thought of you as being much more than a slave. It shows in His emails and whenever he spoke of you. To Me, you are nothing but a slave to be used. Had you not belonged to My Brother, I would have turned you into a whore, begging for more and more sex. But in honor of My Brother I will find someone who will take you where My Brother would have. Make no mistake, I expect your full obedience to Me until I find you a Master. you will acknowledge My message as soon as you get it. Because of the times I see that you have sent your emails I know that you are online everyday. I wait for your reply and pics. I just opened your second message. Maybe My Brother was right about you. Maybe you do deserve more than slavery. Not mine to judge or know but I will see that you have a Master by the end of April. MASTER" Wish me luck. This Master seems to be from a different school of thought but respects what his brother had going. I hope this will be a positive change. At least now I have someone I can talk to (thanks all that extended their compasion and friendship). Edward Actually, what he writes isn't true unless it was part of your contract with your deceased master that he had the right to pass you on. Even then, you'd have to see evidence that he passed you onto this other man. Frankly I'd be very very very cautious with this person who has written to you. Just claiming to be a master, just claiming you've been given someone is not the same as having proof of transfer of ownership nor in being a master. I know you are in pain but you need to honor yourself and your master and demand proof of said transfer. And please always remember that you are a human being first and foremost and you live in a world (probably) where only you have the power to decide if and when you belong to someone -- I can't imagine a court in the Western world that would uphold the transfer of ownership of a human being today. Not even sure they'd agree that part of an inheritance would be legal if it required you to submit to some stranger.

EasyE -> Updates (3/11/2006 1:33:54 PM)
To address a lot of replies... There was no legal contract yet so my continuation with this brother is purely voluntery. I am lucky that I will not be serving His brother but instead an alternate Master that my Master had found for me before he died. My Master was about to have to move away for buisness and had been looking for someone for me to serve under. I will meet my new Master in a hotel on April 15th and he will either except me or refuse me. If He accepts me then I will have no further correspondence with the brother. I find it a good idea to check the obituaries to see if everything checks out. I think that is all I have to tell. Thanks for the support.

shigglyboom -> RE: Updates (3/11/2006 9:21:56 PM)
Edward, I'm so sorry you're missing your Master. Your situation now reminds me of growing up. Remember being told never to get into a car with someone you don't know? Even if they told you your mother was ill and she had sent them to get you? You're in a parallel situation now where someone - or possibly two people - are using the name of the person you trust and love to gain your trust. While it might be legitimate, you need to approach it very dubiously. Better to be safe - that's surely what your Master would have wanted for you more than anything else. Please look for an obituary, and even if that part of the story checks out, be careful because it doesn't prove the whole story true. If your Master never told you directly that he'd decided on this new Master, you have no way of verifying it's true. In fact, he may have decided this person was bad for you, and been looking for someone else! Take it slow, meet at a public place, and remember you can and should walk away at any time if something doesn't feel right. Good luck with it all.

EasyE -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 12:52:55 AM)
I am meeting in a hotel room blindfolded. If people thought it sounded fishy before they do now. I tried indirectly asking for a city but all I got was where I could visit the body (scattered ashes). I have asked and on waiting for the hotel to be local and/or a backround check on the new MASTER. I know I can only check his ID and the name on the backround check. Being in a hotel I could probably make enough noise. If there's a gun to my head that I can't see them getting it out I'm fucked frankly. This has been a risk for me to find someone and try R/T. It will be a risk to meet someone too. I have to go with my gut as this is not a few emails but 100's. I also have to realise this could be black mail or a 10 year old messing with my head (God forbid!). I was unable to find an obit. online if anyone knows how to with just first and last name do tell. The names are fairly common like Bob Smith but not that bad. Is there a sex offender search by name anywhere? Also what about leaving a cell phone within reach? A question for Dom's: -Would you have preference to blindfold color and type for first meeting? -Would you have preferance to hair. I usually like to do a caesar with the front put up? -How would YOU approach the question 'Why do you want to be MY slave?' and what questions do you all like to ask? -My simple answer is I have tried submitting online and have built trust in a my previous MASTER and would like to take it to the next level. (I have never done R/T) I dont want to come across as wishy washy or not devoted and serious. -Finally is it proper to ask questions durring a first meeting? Thanks all.

EasyE -> RE: My master just passed (3/24/2006 1:05:18 AM)
--- edit: request answered only needed one person thanks

SimplyV -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 4:57:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EasyE I am meeting in a hotel room blindfolded. If people thought it sounded fishy before they do now. I tried indirectly asking for a city but all I got was where I could visit the body (scattered ashes). I have asked and on waiting for the hotel to be local and/or a backround check on the new MASTER. I know I can only check his ID and the name on the backround check. Being in a hotel I could probably make enough noise. If there's a gun to my head that I can't see them getting it out I'm fucked frankly. This has been a risk for me to find someone and try R/T. It will be a risk to meet someone too. I have to go with my gut as this is not a few emails but 100's. I also have to realise this could be black mail or a 10 year old messing with my head (God forbid!). I was unable to find an obit. online if anyone knows how to with just first and last name do tell. The names are fairly common like Bob Smith but not that bad. Is there a sex offender search by name anywhere? Also what about leaving a cell phone within reach? Run like the wind. Run run run. quote: ORIGINAL: EasyE A question for Dom's: -Would you have preference to blindfold color and type for first meeting? -Would you have preferance to hair. I usually like to do a caesar with the front put up? -How would YOU approach the question 'Why do you want to be MY slave?' and what questions do you all like to ask? -My simple answer is I have tried submitting online and have built trust in a my previous MASTER and would like to take it to the next level. (I have never done R/T) I dont want to come across as wishy washy or not devoted and serious. -Finally is it proper to ask questions durring a first meeting? Thanks all. blindfold - you should ask the Dom you're meeting. hair - you should ask the Dom you're meeting. "Why do you want to be MY slave?" - well what do you know about this guy? why DO you want to be HIS slave? You built trust in your previous Master... PREVIOUS.. Build trust with this new one first.. then you might be able to answer the question. If you don't know if its proper to ask questions.. then you really need to ask questions. Ask a lot of questions.. Tons of them.. Keep asking until you have no more questions to ask. V

justatoy2 -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 5:14:12 AM)
I know you are relatively new, but I can't believe you don't see how strange this is. You are being set up used...either way all i can say to you is that all of this sounds fishy to me. From your "Master" dying to the brother to now this new Master. If i were you i wouldn't meet him in a hotel room, i would cut your loses, and try to find a partner on your own. A first meeting should be in a public place over coffee..etc. Not blindfolded. This screams to me as someone who is going to take advantage of you. Please do not be so niave. Run as far away from anyone connected to this man, and your original Master. It sounds like you have been played.

thetammyjo -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 8:25:27 AM)
Dude, you need a safecall set up. And no, your safecall need not be a to a kinky or even a kink aware person. If the "dom" in question doesn't want you to have a safecall then I'd seriously wonder what the hell was wrong with him. A person who is worthy of being your master, in my not terribly humble opinion on this topic, wouldn't be worried about answering your questions, taking it slow or insisting you have a safecall. Someone who wants to rush into things, cover it with ritual and mystery, is probably someone who is worried they won't make the cut if you have time to think and evaluate them and yourself. quote: ORIGINAL: EasyE I am meeting in a hotel room blindfolded. If people thought it sounded fishy before they do now. I tried indirectly asking for a city but all I got was where I could visit the body (scattered ashes). I have asked and on waiting for the hotel to be local and/or a backround check on the new MASTER. I know I can only check his ID and the name on the backround check. Being in a hotel I could probably make enough noise. If there's a gun to my head that I can't see them getting it out I'm fucked frankly. This has been a risk for me to find someone and try R/T. It will be a risk to meet someone too. I have to go with my gut as this is not a few emails but 100's. I also have to realise this could be black mail or a 10 year old messing with my head (God forbid!). I was unable to find an obit. online if anyone knows how to with just first and last name do tell. The names are fairly common like Bob Smith but not that bad. Is there a sex offender search by name anywhere? Also what about leaving a cell phone within reach? A question for Dom's: -Would you have preference to blindfold color and type for first meeting? -Would you have preferance to hair. I usually like to do a caesar with the front put up? -How would YOU approach the question 'Why do you want to be MY slave?' and what questions do you all like to ask? -My simple answer is I have tried submitting online and have built trust in a my previous MASTER and would like to take it to the next level. (I have never done R/T) I dont want to come across as wishy washy or not devoted and serious. -Finally is it proper to ask questions durring a first meeting? Thanks all.

angelic -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 8:37:04 AM)
i had an e-mail from EasyE this morning. he asked me to be one of his safe calls. i've never spoken to him before, and without reading through the thread, i think this is even the first time i've posted to this thread. i asked for more specific information from him before i give him my phone number. i just found it odd. EasyE i am not trying to embarrass you, but i found your e-mail a bit disturbing. :( i am happy to help another in any way i can; however, i am also very leary about giving my phone number out to anyone, most particularly ones i've never even spoken to.

TNstepsout -> RE: My master just passed (3/24/2006 9:14:24 AM)
OH MY!!!! How many ways can one person say RUUUUNNNNNN!!!!! Do NOT under any circumstances meet with this person under these conditions. In fact, I would be hesitant to meet with this person under ANY conditions. Even if you get to know him better in the future I would be extremely wary. A complete stranger who would insist on these kinds of terms for a first meeting is NOT someone to be trusted. I would like to suggest that a 10 year old messing with your head is by FAR the last thing I would be concerned with. Rather my concern would be more along the lines of ending up as a bag of parts in a dumpster. Although, if that's what he has in mind, I'm sure you won't have to worry about how your hair looks. I too am new, and I know how hard it is to jump the hurdle to real life experience when you don't have friends/aquantaintances introducing and guiding you, BUT I do know this is NOT the way to do it. Please heed the advice from all here and do not meet with this man.

truesub4u -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 9:17:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelic i had an e-mail from EasyE this morning. he asked me to be one of his safe calls. i've never spoken to him before, and without reading through the thread, i think this is even the first time i've posted to this thread. i asked for more specific information from him before i give him my phone number. i just found it odd. EasyE i am not trying to embarrass you, but i found your e-mail a bit disturbing. :( i am happy to help another in any way i can; however, i am also very leary about giving my phone number out to anyone, most particularly ones i've never even spoken to. While enough have said run.... this one seem set on doing the opposite... and honestly... my bullshit detector is going off big time. Angelic.... i would back away.. i feel the whole thing is total bullshit. And if it is not.. and something goes wrong... being a victim with the victim..... no way jose.... lol... best to let him go about it on his own sense he won't take others advise to begin with. Edited to add... if it was only 1 or 2 advising not to.. would be one thing... but damn look at the thread.... LOL

angelic -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 9:24:02 AM)
yep, true. he said also that he already 'had one volunteer, but would like a backup'. Just a bit weird. i'm not calling bs yet but am keeping my eyes wide open [;)]

truesub4u -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 9:27:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelic yep, true. he said also that he already 'had one volunteer, but would like a backup'. Just a bit weird. i'm not calling bs yet but am keeping my eyes wide open [;)] okie dokie

SirCumsSlut -> RE: My master just passed (3/24/2006 9:31:19 AM)
Edward, I am sorry for your loss. I have been where you are, although it was my first husband who passed some almost 12 yrs ago. You need to take it slow and easy at this time. Have a friend that jumped back into her BDSM lifestyle too quickly after her Sir died a little over a year ago. You MUST give yourself time to grieve. A suggestion since your family and friends know nothing of your lifestyle, keep a journal. A private journal, where you can articulate all the stages of the grieving proccess. Believe me it helps.....as a matter of fact I still write in "1st hubby journal" because even though I am happily collared and married to my Sir, I still have little reminders of my first husband. My Sir encourages me to write down what I am feeling at these reminders. I hope this helps, and remember you now have a guardian angel looking out for you. the slut

EvilGeoff -> RE: Huge update (3/24/2006 10:05:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EasyE Well it is amazing how life works out. I emailed my master one last time hoping his family would hear my condolences. As it turns out his fellow master brother intercepted this email. Here is what I got back: ..... I will address you as boy. you will address Me as MASTER or MASTER JAMES. you will always capitalize these when you email. I will continue mailing you from My Brothers address rather than converting you to My own. .... Okay... No one else appears to have noticed, so I'm calling this one. BULLSHIT ! ! ! ! No if's, and's or's, or but's. The message from the "brother" is pure, 100% unadulterated, online, drama queen BULLSHIT ! ! ! ! NO ONE will use somebody else's email for very long when they have one of their own. If nothing else, they will revert to using their own e-mail out of habit. Unless, of course, this _is_ his own e-mail address. This bozo is playing you with head games. Whether it is your original "Master" or someone else, the "brother" is a hose head. You owe him (the "brother") nothing. quote: A question for Dom's: -Would you have preference to blindfold color and type for first meeting? As a Dominant and owner here's my answer: A blindfold? On a FIRST meeting? In a FREAKING HOTEL ROOM?? Are you out of your ever-loving mind ? ? ? If I thought it would do any good at all I would collar you myself and beat you black and blue until you had some sense knocked into your head. Some first meeting guidelines: ALWAYS meet in a public place FIRST. There may be no chemistry on your part, why set yourself up with expectations for something you may REALLY not want to do after finding out that really cute picture you got does not resemble the dirty, smelly, unkempt, snaggle-toothed person you just met in any way shape or form, hmmm? ? ? Set up a safe call and better yet, have a shadow watching your back. NEVER meet alone, away from others who can intervene if things go bad. Meet for dinner, go to a movie, get coffee at the Waffle House. If, and I do mean IF, everything clicks together at that point, then it's time to think about negotiating the next step or two. NEVER agree to play, sex, or bondage of any kind sight unseen. For all you know this guy could be HIV positive and in the last stages of AIDS (and looks it) so this is the only way he can arrange to fuck someone. Hello, the trust required for bondage should be EARNED, not given away to someone you don't know. Demand, get and CHECK REFERENCES And e-mail references are NOT acceptable. Hell, _I_ have 8 email addresses between work, kink, vanilla-non-work, retired nicks, newsgroups... Want folks to vouche for me? Sure, let me give you some e-mail addresses to get in touch with.... shakes his head I don't think so. Phone numbers, TALK to people. Preferably people of both genders. It's tougher to fake several voices of both genders. Being in pain is NO excuse for being unsafe. Neither is being eager. EasyE, I will put your decisions down to inexperience and being naive. But you need to start back pedalling away from this meeting and this person. NOW. quote: -Would you have preferance to hair. I usually like to do a caesar with the front put up? My preference is hair long, down, clean, combed or brushed, and natural. Most styling is unnecessary. However, my preferences are irrelevant here. quote: -How would YOU approach the question 'Why do you want to be MY slave?' and what questions do you all like to ask? -My simple answer is I have tried submitting online and have built trust in a my previous MASTER and would like to take it to the next level. (I have never done R/T) I dont want to come across as wishy washy or not devoted and serious. shakes his head Do you have any clue why you want to be THIS particular "Master"s slave? You want to be SOMEONE's slave, that much is clear, but this individual? What makes HIM the one? What qualities of character does he have? What skills? Is he physically attractive to you? Does he even have a job or a home? You don't know, do you? He's pixels on a screen and you want desperately to belong, to feel wanted, needed. But why HIM? Because he's bothered to spend time swapping electrons with you??? quote: -Finally is it proper to ask questions durring a first meeting? Thanks all. Absolutely it is proper to ask questions during a first meeting. That's ALL you should be doing besides conversing and getting to know this individual. For all you really know, this guy might be your original "Master" still playing head games with you. And frankly, that's what it smells like to me. I'm not saying that this particular meeting or individual is what is happening with 100% certainty, but I've been involved in internet forums for years and it sure feels like pure online, cyber drama bullshit to me. Get out from behind your computer, EasyE, fer pity's sake, and get involved with a local BDSM group in your area, or within a reasonable commuting distance. Make friends in your community, network, Network, NETWORK. The chances of finding a good match go up when you have friends looking out for you and helping you meet others in the scene. I don't want to sound harsh, but dayum, someone needs to lay this out in clear terms. What you are proposing to do is extremely unwise and unsafe. The mere fact that the person you are meeting did not insist on meeting in public, did not volunteer references, did not volunteer proof of your "Master"s death are screaming "set up!" We here on the forum cannot make you do anything you do not wish to do. We can not change your habits, we can not control your actions. Only you can. But if you ignore the advice given here (and so far it's been a pretty damn consistent "GET AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE") it's on your head. Your life, your health, and your safety are on the line, it's YOUR responsibility to protect yourself. You asked for a Dominant's opinion, you now have it. Yours In Kink, - Geoff (normally I don't do this but as a way of providing a bit of "bona fides" for why my advice should sometimes be listened to, I am...) Founder, This Thing That We Do Munch Group - http://www.t3wd.org T3WD Representative to the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom since 2003 http://www.ncsfreedom.org Owner of janey since 2003 Active participant in the BDSM lifestyle since 1998

STMangel -> RE: My master just passed (3/24/2006 10:13:16 AM)
hello: If you wish to chat please email at anytime STMangel

truesub4u -> RE: Huge update (3/24/2006 10:21:28 AM)
Geoff........ thank you.

thetammyjo -> RE: Updates (3/24/2006 10:23:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelic i had an e-mail from EasyE this morning. he asked me to be one of his safe calls. i've never spoken to him before, and without reading through the thread, i think this is even the first time i've posted to this thread. i asked for more specific information from him before i give him my phone number. i just found it odd. EasyE i am not trying to embarrass you, but i found your e-mail a bit disturbing. :( i am happy to help another in any way i can; however, i am also very leary about giving my phone number out to anyone, most particularly ones i've never even spoken to. I certainly never suggested he email anyone in particular. I'd say he made an error if he contacted a stranger to be his safecall -- the point is to have someone you can trust to call and have your back so to speak.

jacuzzis -> RE: My master just passed (3/24/2006 10:24:01 AM)
I still feel somehow guilty for talking with friends about death and dying shortly before my grandfather's death; absolutely no logical reason for that, but it's the effect his death had on me. Don't beat yourself up about something you couldn't have possibly been responsible for. I strongly agree with other well-meaning people on here....give yourself some time; don't go making any decisions right now. I feel for your sense of loss.

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