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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

but you are right i was very fortunate to have found a wonderful Master who is ethical and compassionate. i very easily could have fallen into much more dangerous hands. however even in my Master i inevitably push those buttons which release his inner Beast, and he may subject me to things which he would not in a clearer state of mind. i accept this because i accept all of him, and furthermore i think it's only healthy to allow the Beast free reign every now and then, even if i must suffer in the process.

I question his compassion, based on your past posts.  This is the man who's broken your bones, blackened both your eyes as a result of his discipline while you were at a hotel (and then advised you to pull down your baseball cap and wear sunglasses to mask them), and raped you immediately upon your return from a hospital.  Along with having you declared mentally incompetent, making you his ward, and not restored your legally independent status.

thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I admit reading what thornhappy wrote makes me wonder if you (daddysprop) have a complete understanding of the difference.

Clearly he is everything to you and it is my hope that you are safe and happy.
If things seem ambiguous, you are not being disloyal to him by seeking clarification.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

no, but what is amusing is how an outside party can determine if the person in question's attitude is not a reflection of their behavior and the service they provide if the one commenting isn't the party being served.

i'd also wonder why this would need to be stated at all since it doesn't reflect the original question posed. that's the beauty of having confidence. remarks like this never break a girl's stride if she's genuine.

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ORIGINAL: Viridana

I only observe what is written here, no more no less. I am allowed to comment my observations jand opinions ust like you, and it seems that you haven't observed that nearly none of the replies have reflected to the original question anyways. If it bothers you there is a short distance to the scroll button on your mouse.

We may have very different opinions on whether BDSM is a competition where people compete on the message boards and chatrooms on who is the slaviest slave, where each reply has to top the previous one with parallel disdain for those "measly subbies and bottoms who arent as slavy as me". It reeks of insecurities and borders a personality disorder.

However it is interesting (well honestly, I'm really not that interested) that you took my reply somewhat as something directed at you.

P.S. would this remark of mine break the stride of a genuine boy..... or just "girls"? (no, really you don't have to answer that, I really don't care less).

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I admit reading what thornhappy wrote makes me wonder if you (daddysprop) have a complete understanding of the difference.

Clearly he is everything to you and it is my hope that you are safe and happy.
If things seem ambiguous, you are not being disloyal to him by seeking clarification.

what i wonder is why one persons allegations warrant comments at all. or are we staring at each other in some cyber cafe i know nothing about? because it is totally impossible that this person might have it wrong and may have misstated something that other people are jumping on right?

i can't believe the diatribe i'm reading. this isn't a clinic and no one knows what the heck is or isn't taking place. she's a slave. the definition and parameters of her enslavement are not mine or anyone else's to judge or validate. before we start pushing pamphlets and having a kumbaya moment, have a peek in your own backyard beforehand.

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

If you were to go back and read the entirety of what I wrote, I did not seek to define her relationship as abusive.
The link was included only as a general reference.

Furthermore, I mentioned  the importance of context.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

If you were to go back and read the entirety of what I wrote, I did not seek to define her relationship as abusive.
The link was included only as a general reference.

Furthermore, I mentioned  the importance of context.

with all due respect i read the entirety of your post. these words prompted my comment:

I admit reading what thornhappy wrote makes me wonder if you (daddysprop) have a complete understanding of the difference.

Clearly he is everything to you and it is my hope that you are safe and happy.
If things seem ambiguous, you are not being disloyal to him by seeking clarification.

one person made a statement which prompted a response from you that appears sincere. i won't dispute those merits, particularly given the background details you've shared. however, you reacted based upon what this person stated, something we cannot verify as factual. that was the premise behind my remarks.

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

However, you reacted based upon what this person stated, something we cannot verify as factual. that was the premise behind my remarks.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Wrong answer - we are both technically breaking the law by not reporting it, this isn't a few welts.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Your Nihilistic attitude is really cool and shit, but in fact there is a real world, and this is just a subset of it, and in that world, external assessments are made all the time, with real people with real guns and real cages that enforce it.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Informally, this isn't BDSM at all, and she's on the wrong website, being well on her way to becoming a statistic in my opinion, which I feel free to offer; that's what happens when you cross that line, it suddenly does become everybody's business.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

After he eventually kills her, he'll be looking for another, for instance, might be your sister.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Promoting it as BDSM does me and everyone else here a disservice particularly those with little experience to hear her spout that "real" slaves allow themselves to be abused, and everybody else is just faking. Bullshit.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

And I have no problem questioning a "relationship" based on a full grown adult male beating the fuck out of a girl who looks like she might weigh 100 pounds soaking wet.

That's putting it all tactfully.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

You cannot 'save' that which doesn't want to be 'saved' or doesn't see things that same way as you.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

i can't believe the diatribe i'm reading. this isn't a clinic and no one knows what the heck is or isn't taking place. she's a slave. the definition and parameters of her enslavement are not mine or anyone else's to judge or validate. before we start pushing pamphlets and having a kumbaya moment, have a peek in your own backyard beforehand.

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: Falkenstein

Dear CaringandReal,

thank you very much for the roses! Yes, I love history and if it showed to you, then reading all these books has not been in vain. Speaking of "vain", it is probably an adjective that fits me to. Too bad I cannot gloat with your compliment next week at the office...

Do not worry about not agreeing with me all the time, I do not either.

I read the beginning of your very nice profile:
"So long, and thanks for all the phish(ing)."
LOL
I suppose then that you know that the answer is 42

With my kindest regards,

Henry

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

There are people into some gonzo shit, amputation and the like, and I don't judge them either, other than it's crossing the boundaries of legality in a way that threatens to bring the whole thing down if it happened to catch on - the legal envelope that we inhabit here is based on the concept of SSC, otherwise, it's no step at all to call all of it abuse, and start issuing warrants.

there goes those acronyms again. i wonder how many lives they save. i mean presumably if someone is hellbent on causing harm, i don't think saying, "stop - RACK, SSC" is going to make them halt and think, "yeah, i was going overboard there for a minute." give me a break, and i don't mean a literal crack!

if my fellow man can't abide by the law of the land. has little respect for the man with a gun. what the heck are two words going to prevent? it is beyond idiotic to believe you're any safer because someone says that's their motto. reality check. you'll find out where they stand when you're engaging, assuming of course that you leave in one piece. pun intended.

but if uttering that little mantra makes your toes curl and provides a mock sense of protection. hey, go with it. it is nothing more than a modern day charm. i think i'll take my chances and stick with the other camp instead.

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

She is also a human being who has consistently and frequently described how she is treated inhumanely - you may wish to applaud this, but to some of us, it is sickening that her guy gets away with having her declared mentally incompetent only to take advantage of it. According to her, he is her legal guardian, for fuck's sake.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

But calling it BDSM magically makes it not abuse?

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Go ahead, get yourself put in the hospital if it makes you feel more "authentic".

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

i can't believe the diatribe i'm reading. this isn't a clinic and no one knows what the heck is or isn't taking place. she's a slave. the definition and parameters of her enslavement are not mine or anyone else's to judge or validate. before we start pushing pamphlets and having a kumbaya moment, have a peek in your own backyard beforehand.

porcelaine

Some people have a devout conviction of needing to save people, even from themselves. prop normally has two flavors of detractors: 1) the type that have read previous honest admissions of some extreme instances of her past and decided they know better than she what is best for her and deal with any similar topics in such an armchair psychology sort of way (to the plain disregard for that whole consent thing), and 2) people who get upset because they think she keeps describing herself a more of a slave than others (which is odd considering that she is at one of the farther extremes of surrender that I have encountered., so it's true in most cases. It's just that some people equate her more extreme degree of slavery to mean she's trying to say she's "better", which is usually just a reflection of their own coupling of the two, for personal reason).

She is the sort of person who can get the emotional projectory-empaths coming out of the woodwork.

This is all, though, just another area that merits heavy introspection and understanding of how malleable and fluid human psychology is (particularly with how "disorder" is defined) and what the base foundations for respect of choice and respect of life should be.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Note: I see little evidence of anyone trying to demean her. Her guy, on the other hand, is another matter  .

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Some people have a morbid fascination with the self destruction of others.

The woman I'm talking to now now likes to be tied up, gagged and blindfolded, ears stuffed with cotton, and raped occasionally - for 24 hours at a time - some people would call that abuse.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

I'm drawing the line at breaking bones

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

If you don't draw the line, somebody else will - I'm not sure what country you live in, but in this country we put people in prison for that, leather underwear or no leather underwear.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Go ahead, take poll - how many doms in here think breaking bones is not crossing the line?

I think you're full of shit.