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HatesParisHilton -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:18:08 AM)

So if we're all made in God's image I'm assuming that on occasion God loves a fluoro pink and green feather boa and sequins?




pahunkboy -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:18:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

Termy wrote:
"Now I am not Gay, but sometimes I wish I was. They do have it good sometimes. But that is not the point. "

Yeah. we GLBT folks have it soooo good. We usually get the shit kicked out of us in school while growing up. We often get thrown out of the house of our parents if we're outed or we out ourselves. We have a suicide rate among teens that's almost four times the national average. Depending on our situation, we could end up being thrown out of our church, losing our jobs, and having people refuse to rent an apartment to us. Banks can, and have, declined loans because "we might be an AIDS risk." We get bashed on a regular basis.

Sure, the media's perception of being GLB is that we all just have wonderful lives, running in and rebuilding neighborhoods, cooking great food, all the sex we want, and having more disposable income than straights. They pretty much ignore the downside of homophobia. Some people think that it disappeared in the 90's, after the pandemic began to decline (it hasn't really, it's just moved on to other demographics) But, I can assure you, that hatred of gays is alive and well, just as racisim still exists in the US, despite our having Obama as President.

Your observations about why the religious fundamentalist types hate us so much is interesting, if rather primative. You forget, however, that the hatred extends way beyond the limits of just religion. Straight males, in general tend to be uncomfortable around us, either because they are unsure of their own sexuality, or else see gay males as an afront to their own personal ideas about what makes a "strong" man. In the political realm, we went through a period where GLBT folk were seen as a convienent scapegoat for social ills... as such a great deal of legislation was passed against us which has been an absolute bitch for us to get repealed (Remember Ammendment #2, in Colorado?)



Lighten up.

He does not mean that in malice.

What he means is heterosexual life is not always all it is cracked up to be.

RELAX.  Breath.

The comment was NOT a jab. 






pahunkboy -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:20:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

One odd thing is that UMs can pick out a gay a mile a way.   Then as they age- it becomes harder to determine.

Has anyone else noticed that?



No, I haven't. What do they do, start twitching when they spot one?

*pictures hordes of homophobes in bars, holding up kids, as gaydar detectors*



No.   They just have not been programmed to see things in 2009 terms. (yet)




pahunkboy -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:22:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

don't sweat it Mars.  termy is a gamer boy.  he just wants some hankies from the hanky codes.


That is a pretty interesting statement considering that big pinch I just felt on my azz came from YOUR direction!

--   glunk --

hehehe




HatesParisHilton -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:26:38 AM)

LOL

hey, if it's a pinchable ass, who am I to resist, just I was born cursed with Breeder-itis?

besides, I am ALWAYS first in line for Boas and Sequins (though my colours are indigo and violet and Prussian Blue)




Wolf2Bear -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:32:54 AM)

Now Hiltie...you clearly forgot the glitter! 




Level -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:33:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

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ORIGINAL: Level


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

One odd thing is that UMs can pick out a gay a mile a way.   Then as they age- it becomes harder to determine.

Has anyone else noticed that?



No, I haven't. What do they do, start twitching when they spot one?

*pictures hordes of homophobes in bars, holding up kids, as gaydar detectors*



I have yet to understand what this gaydar is! Seems that mine is quite defective....hahahahaha




lol Bear. [8D] See, get a kid and put them in a stroller, and just go for a walk. When the kid starts wailing, you're getting closer!




pahunkboy -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 8:39:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

LOL

hey, if it's a pinchable ass, who am I to resist, just I was born cursed with Breeder-itis?

besides, I am ALWAYS first in line for Boas and Sequins (though my colours are indigo and violet and Prussian Blue)



LMAO!

I throw out the drama thing on a silver board- which has some uptight people in. I never let on that I am gay. (bible thumpers there) We get a crasher now and then and the flamer me- goes into a gay rant on him- leaving many speechless.   Tho one has caught on and now grilled the antagonist on grammar and spelling which boils him. LOL.

Who says life cant be fun???

YeHAaaaaaaaaaaaa!




SpinnerofTales -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 9:54:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

makes you wonder,

if men could be impregnated, if any of these bigotries would have arisen at all?


If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament and abortion rights would have been assured as the first amendment to the constitution.




tazzygirl -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 10:02:19 AM)

LOL

not to mention mandatory paid maternity leave until the child turns 5 and goes to school.

~pauses

wait, if men could have babies, we would be extinct as a race... ever listened to a man whine about a splinter?

imagine his episiotomy or c-section incision!!!!




Termyn8or -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 10:37:56 AM)

"Yeah. we GLBT folks have it soooo good. We usually get the shit kicked out of us in school while growing up."

Understood, but times are changing. However this does bring up a point relating to human psychology. People tend to fear what they do not understand, and to hate what they fear.

From what I've seen personally is that Gays have toughened up. Worked out, learned to fight. Why not ? What would anyone do who is picked on or harrassed in that manner ? And really, that is the best path, to get strong enough to withstand the attacks or even win the fight. Then their fagbasher (homophobe) buddies can pick on them - "You got beat up by a sissy boy, HA HA".

I've downloaded many things, among them old cartoons. Some of them are among the best I've ever seen, in entertainment value, but I noticed something. Remember Foghorn Leghorn ? The one where he seems to be trying to be a male influence on a chick, the egghead type. Does anyone remember that one ? In it Foghorn Leghorn says something like "Ewwww, there's something wrong with a boy that doesn't like baseball". Well I am not Gay but I guess I'll have to admit it, I hate baseball. I think it is a total waste of time and energy. Always have. Absolutely the most boring sport I have ever seen.

Now just what is 'wrong' with a boy that doesn't like baseball ?

This kinda burns me up on two levels. First of all who the fuck are you to judge me, especially based on my personal likes and dislikes which have very little effect if any on your life or your precious, decrepit, limited society ? What gives you the right ?

Of course there is a line drawn. Rapists, molesters and such DO have an impact, and such things are truly wrong. And I don't mean by standards of the Bible or the law. Or the Law. Speaking of which, the Bible doesn't say anything about the age at which sex is OK. In some societies it was perfectly normal for a 40 year old Man to take on a 13 year old Wife. The law says it's wrong. I agree, but for different reasons. I don't believe a Man can love a Woman the same way with that age discrepancy, as he would love a Woman who is more on par, more equal in life experience, and indeed more useful. I've been told that the Talmud mentions 6 years old, but I can't confirm that so don't take it to the bank. (I might have to stop using that saying in today's day and age) Really though, as mentioned when something goes through so many translations it's hard to be sure what the original text actually said.

Which is another point. Are we to base our lives on something that is so vague, self contradictory and illogical ? I read something years ago on that subject. The team of translators were working on something and one of them came across something, something which he said could be construed as Jesus was a mushroom, but a magic mushroom ala the ones people get high on. He was promptly dismissed, but made a good case. Now if you can get fired for being truthful just how accurate of an output do you expect ?

Further, most people do not even see the blatant evidence of tampering with the text, for some unknown reason. Probably half the Bibles out there have this evidence right on the front cover. Look at it, where it says "King James Version". Think about it, some guy named James, who became King, has decided to edit the Bible. Is he any closer to God than I ? Actually maybe he is, but still I don't think that gives him the right to do this. Never thought of it that way huh ?

So let's add this up for the moment and get our bearings straight.

They tell us we must believe.

We don't know what to believe.

They don't know what to believe.

If they believe many of them do not practice what they preach.

Are we straight on this or have I forgotten something ?

Well based on these beliefs that are largely undefined, they attack us. We who are different in any way. Well this is my attack back. I will not lay down and die just like that. These MFs have nothing to prove yet spend their entire lives trying to prove it. How can they be so obtuse ? (just watched Shawshank again last week).

There is more, so much more. It is not in the Bible, OK some of it is but much of it is in the works of Man and the Creator. Remember the saying that actions speak louder than words ? Focus on the actions. If the Judeo-Christian deity is true, why do so many suffer ? And I don't mean famine even, or any of that. I am talking about the way their book actually limits the development of their followers' minds.

If the one and only true God is our Father, think of His actions. Would you do that to your kids ?

T




tazzygirl -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 10:44:04 AM)

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I've downloaded many things, among them old cartoons. Some of them are among the best I've ever seen, in entertainment value, but I noticed something. Remember Foghorn Leghorn ? The one where he seems to be trying to be a male influence on a chick, the egghead type. Does anyone remember that one ? In it Foghorn Leghorn says something like "Ewwww, there's something wrong with a boy that doesn't like baseball". Well I am not Gay but I guess I'll have to admit it, I hate baseball. I think it is a total waste of time and energy. Always have. Absolutely the most boring sport I have ever seen.

Now just what is 'wrong' with a boy that doesn't like baseball ?

This kinda burns me up on two levels. First of all who the fuck are you to judge me, especially based on my personal likes and dislikes which have very little effect if any on your life or your precious, decrepit, limited society ? What gives you the right ?


Lighten the hell up. They were drawn at a time when it was considered wrong to like other boys... when it was wrong to admit your husband beat you... when it was wrong to admit you were raped... and doubly wrong to admit a family member did it.

What the hell makes you so damn special over all these other people who have had to fight to gain the respect from the "heterosexual white male"?




pahunkboy -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 11:16:58 AM)

Progress  has been made.

I can live in a small town and be left alone.  That was not always the case.

No matter what the walk of life- people have trials and bullies.   Problems and troubles.    I prefer mine to someone elses.

Being that nearly everyone knows someone gay- it has made it easier.     My family does not want to here the details- but if they find out- it is not a big ordeal anymore.

All my siblings mates have been decent.  I let my siblings handle telling the mate is they want. 

My brothers and cousins have already fist fought over some girl.  .....and gosh it could almost be a good cover because I am not in the fray.  They know when I talk to their lady there is no sex motives- none -nil.

My sister tho- likes to hear the details...    :-)

My brothers and mom do not.  I am fine with that.   It is a balance of being candid with out being in anyones face-pushing something on them. 




tazzygirl -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 11:24:29 AM)

I dont bash gays... i dont bash anyone.. except political nut cases who believe the Bush boys were gods gift from heaven... beyond that.. its live and let live.

I grow tired of watching the religious bashers have at it because a piece of literature that was written over 2000 years ago.. AND that was badly translated... is STILL being used as a battering ram against people who believe in a faith.

Isnt it time to get over yourselves?




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 2:29:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I grow tired of watching the religious bashers have at it because a piece of literature that was written over 2000 years ago.. AND that was badly translated... is STILL being used as a battering ram against people who believe in a faith.

It was badly translated in your opinion another translator perhaps thinks it was translated perfectly, this is the problem with the bible and always will be. People quote it when it is convenient to them and dismiss it when it isn't. A pointless document it is therefore. A book with blank pages is just as useful: you can fill them in as you go depending on what you decide is right.[:D]




BKSir -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 2:47:46 PM)

Yep, no gay sex for me, because it's against Levitican law.  That also means no cheeseburgers, shrimp, alfredo, bacon, no saying anything at all against god, no laying with a woman during "that time" of month, if you're female no speaking to males without being addressed specifically first.  A lot more.  All things that we should be stoned to death for.  Oh, and we can also sell our wives and female children, let's not forget that.  *HEADDESK*

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

So if we're all made in God's image I'm assuming that on occasion God loves a fluoro pink and green feather boa and sequins?


And no... no god who is kind and good at all would love that. >.<  [:D]




Moonhead -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 3:27:39 PM)

I don't think any fundamentalists have killed their daughter for getting raped for a long while now, either. (Christian fundamentalists, anyway.)




SpinnerofTales -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 4:40:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

not to mention mandatory paid maternity leave until the child turns 5 and goes to school.

~pauses

wait, if men could have babies, we would be extinct as a race... ever listened to a man whine about a splinter?

imagine his episiotomy or c-section incision!!!!


Let's face it, tazzy, if the situations were reversed, men would be demanding 5 days off a month. I can just hear the calls now "Hello, Phil? This is Dave. I'm not going to be at the site for a few days. Yeah, the ole' monthly bill came in today. I'm flowing like a river, got cramps up the ass and I just feel yuckky. I'm gonna hole up with a couple of beers and I'll be back when I'm presentable. I'll check my email on my blackberry when the midol kicks in."

Of course, let us not forget that you women do have pms,  menstruation and labor pains as part of God's holy punishment for your part in the downfall of man. This, of course, is not a good thing to point out to your wife/so while it's happening.




Kirata -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 4:52:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

ever listened to a man whine about a splinter?

Splinters are royal pain! You always get them in your hands or feet, you can't write, type, drive, walk, or do fucking anything without the little fucker stabbing you. However, here's a tip...........

Bacon fat. Yep. Cut a piece of bacon fat about 1/2" square, put it over the splinter, tape it in place (a bandaid will do), and when you wake up the next morning the splinter will be in the fat instead of in you.

K.








SpinnerofTales -> RE: God's Gays (10/4/2009 5:03:03 PM)

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Splinters are royal pain! You always get them in your hands or feet, you can't write, type, drive, walk, or do fucking anything without the little fucker stabbing you. However, here's a tip...........

Bacon fat. Yep. Cut a piece of bacon fat about 1/2" square, put it over the splinter, tape it in place (a bandaid will do), and when you wake up the next morning the splinter will be in the fat instead of in you.

K.

ORIGINAL: Kirata




Congratulations, Kirata. This is the first time in since I've been aware of this section of the board that I've seen a post that a) defines a problem b) offers a viable solution and c) won't piss anyone off. This one should be bronzed.

Now let's hope no one comes on and demands citations and links.





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