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rulemylife -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/8/2009 7:53:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy where is "radio supporting them"? Gosh, I don't know. But there's some bald-headed fat ass I always hear who doesn't seem to like Obama or liberals very much.

TheHeretic -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/8/2009 8:23:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Tell that to Natalie Dixie Chicks. I don't know how many times I have to go over this... Your right to talk shit about the President in no way, shape, or form, infringes my right to form an opinion of you based on that statement, or to express that opinion just as freely as you expressed yours to begin with. Hence, if a country music artist wants to say something that will cause country music fans to call her an unamerican cunt, and quit buying her merchandise, and make angry phone calls to radio stations that play her music, that is freedom of speech, too. When she gets arrested for saying it, THAT is an infringement.

MstrssScarlet -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/8/2009 9:36:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf ~FR~ Before this gets spun that all conservatives would support this, I would like to say if I were armed and this coup happened around me, I would defend Obama. Likely with my life I would defend him, but then again I believe in old style support of our country, it's flag, and our President. Don't like Obama or much of what is going on, but that does not keep me from being an American. If citizens are so outraged, then vote him out next election and vote some of his political supporters out next year. My husband always says basically the same thing. Neither one of us approve of the decisions Obama is making, but he is the president and as such deserves the respect that comes with the office. Changes are to be made at the ballot box. I'm going to get on my soapbox for a moment and then I'll leave all you liberals out there to tear my post to shreds. If anyone has taken advantage of the meida, it's been Obama BIG TIME. While he was running for office, all the liberals in the media gave him all the coverage he wanted for free while Sara Palin was made fun of at every opportunity. Letterman has pounded her constantly and continues to do so even after she resigned as governor of Alaska. Bush was constantly made fun of while in office yet Obama is treated like the annointed one. The mainstream media never publishes anything bad about him no matter what he does. He is the only president in history (while actively serving) to sit down with late night comedy talk show hosts and they give him all the time he could possibly want. Some of you had better start taking a closer look at what he's proposing before it's too late. Don't look to the mainstream media to tell you either. Before I send this out to be shredded, you all need to realize that conservatives aren't all bible thumpers either. I happen to believe in gay marriages, the legalization of marijuana, and a lot of other issues that liberals like to claim as theirs and theirs alone. There is more than two sides of the fence people. Everyone is so determined that you have to be either a democrat/liberal or a republican/conservative that nothing is being accomplished except a lot of overspending. Look past the party and take a good hard look at the candidate, no matter which party they're from. Mistress Scarlet

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/8/2009 9:54:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf ~FR~ Before this gets spun that all conservatives would support this, I would like to say if I were armed and this coup happened around me, I would defend Obama. Likely with my life I would defend him, but then again I believe in old style support of our country, it's flag, and our President. Don't like Obama or much of what is going on, but that does not keep me from being an American. If citizens are so outraged, then vote him out next election and vote some of his political supporters out next year. My husband always says basically the same thing. Neither one of us approve of the decisions Obama is making, but he is the president and as such deserves the respect that comes with the office. Changes are to be made at the ballot box. I'm going to get on my soapbox for a moment and then I'll leave all you liberals out there to tear my post to shreds. If anyone has taken advantage of the meida, it's been Obama BIG TIME. While he was running for office, all the liberals in the media gave him all the coverage he wanted for free while Sara Palin was made fun of at every opportunity. Letterman has pounded her constantly and continues to do so even after she resigned as governor of Alaska. Bush was constantly made fun of while in office yet Obama is treated like the annointed one. The mainstream media never publishes anything bad about him no matter what he does. He is the only president in history (while actively serving) to sit down with late night comedy talk show hosts and they give him all the time he could possibly want. Some of you had better start taking a closer look at what he's proposing before it's too late. Don't look to the mainstream media to tell you either. Oh, not all of us are comfortable with the guy either, believe me. Liberal support for Obama has definitely slipped in the last few months, and I don't think it's accurate to say that the mainstream media never criticizes him at all. I think the honeymoon is over, and I've seen quite a bit of criticism of him in the press. Trouble is, very little that he's done has actually gone wrong yet, so there's not very much to point at. I've seen quite a few articles critical of his economic policies, and how they're falling short of the promised goals, and expect to see a lot more of that in the next few months as the results of those policies become more clear. Unfortunately, I expect to see a whole lot more. As for Bush and Palin - well, people made fun of them because they're idiots. They're easy to make fun of. Palin jabbers nonsensically like a parrot on LSD, Bush can't string a coherent sentence together even if the words are scrawled in crayon on the forehead of the person he's talking to, and both of them say things that are just plain silly because they're too stupid to know better. Obama may have his shortcomings, but he's not a clown. That makes it harder to make fun of the guy.

housesub4you -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 2:48:58 AM)
Everyone is so determined that you have to be either a democrat/liberal or a republican/conservative that nothing is being accomplished except a lot of overspending. Look past the party and take a good hard look at the candidate, no matter which party they're from. people did look beyond the party and that is why they make fun of Palin. I mean come on, if you still support her, that is your choice, but you'll have a hard time defending the absurd comments she has made. I believe Clinton was the first one to sit down with a comedy host, unless you include the times Bush only talked with Fox As for the over spending, well that goes back a long way, not just the last 7 months

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 4:47:07 AM)
~FR~ Okay this is a bit scary. Took my elderly Father to the barber shop yesterday, and decided to mention this little news story/idea. I would say at least 10 out of about 14 people in there were all shaking their heads saying "Yep, something has to be done.". This to me indicates that whatever the reason for these feelings, it is not just some "crazies" that feel that way. I do not spook easy, and the way people were talking about it, kind of gave me a chill. It was very surreal, and an eye opener. So rather than say it is a bunch of crazies, maybe someone needs to look into this seriously and find out why some large segments of the American people believe a coup would be okay.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 6:28:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So rather than say it is a bunch of crazies, maybe someone needs to look into this seriously and find out why some large segments of the American people believe a coup would be okay. Part of the reason that there are people believing a coup would be acceptable, I think, is due to the ramping up of the political scare tactics used by the opponents of this current administration. Granted, demonizing one’s political opposition is as old as politics. However, there seems to have been a change since Obama came into office. Previously, the mainstream opposition may have claimed that certain policies would do everything from ruin the country to destroy our constitutional protections. We have called presidents, on both sides of the red/blue divide everything from stupid to criminal to downright enemies of the constitution. There was always the unspoken feeling that it was the official, not the basic system that was at fault. The answer was to “vote the bastards out at the first opportunity” as opposed to entering into violent revolution. Several things have occurred with this administration that seem to have changed that. There is an elevated level of rhetoric over the manner in which the current administration is seeking to change the fundamental nature of our government. The shock jock conservative media (Limbaugh, Coutler, Savage among others) have spent hours expounding the idea that Obama seeks to turn this country from a democracy to a socialist or communist or fascist state. The birther concept tells people that, for the first time in our history, we are being led by a man who is not “a real American” with the implication that we have been taken over by a foreigner with sinister designs for our nation. More subtly, if not less important, there is an undercurrent of fear being planted that Obama might decide he likes being president so much he may decide not to leave after two terms. Supporters of Obama are characterized as mindless, hero worshipping zombies, so lost in the cult of personality that they would gladly make him king. Comparisons are made to Hitler, Stalin and Chavez who share, among other things, a distinct disinclination to retire from being head of state. We are being told that he is indoctrinating our children and why do that if one doesn’t intend to be around when those children grow up to be able to exercise political power. The picture painted by the more fringe right wing is both loud and disturbing. We are presented with a picture of a foreign national, who took over the office of president by trickery and fraud (ie pretending to be a citizen), is trying to change the very structure of our country away from our democracy and just might be planning to settle in for a good, long stay beyond what that constitution currently allows. If you accept these things as believable, an election or term limits are not going to solve this problem. The only thing left is violent revolution. I am not saying by any means that the conservative pundits who are using these talking points are actually trying to ferment violent revolution. It is though a rather foreseeable unintended consequence of their presentations.

Anarrus -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 6:37:11 AM)
Hi Orion, Yes it's scary as hell and leans toward the bizarre. quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So rather than say it is a bunch of crazies, maybe someone needs to look into this seriously and find out why some large segments of the American people believe a coup would be okay. I think a lot of it goes to those segments feeling disenfranchised (not of their vote but of their concerns), powerless, envious, marginalized and very bitter. Their feelings are fed and they're urged on with untruths, half-truths and spun-truths by the shit-stirers on the web and in other media who's only real agenda is to raise their audience shares, their profit margins and sometimes just to grab their 15 minutes of fame. It's my opinon that those who think a coup in the United States would be "ok" are being manipulated in the worst way. Further, they haven't even begun to consider the implications of a coup and just how badly life as we know it would deteriorate here and in the rest of the stable world. Life may not be rosey for many now, but a coup would remove any chance or hope of a rosey existence for a long long time to come. Anarrus edit for spelling

OrionTheWolf -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 6:44:59 AM)
I am not sure what it is, but I am going to start listening and doing more talking locally.

Fellow -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 12:38:58 PM)
I would rather think left-wing coming after Obama. Obama major corporate rescue operations, destroying dollar that hurts poor the most, war escalation in Afganistan, doing practically nothing to fight long-term job losses, defective medical industry written health care bill and so on.... should piss off most left wingers.

Moonhead -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 1:26:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Tell that to Natalie Dixie Chicks. I don't know how many times I have to go over this... Your right to talk shit about the President in no way, shape, or form, infringes my right to form an opinion of you based on that statement, or to express that opinion just as freely as you expressed yours to begin with. Hence, if a country music artist wants to say something that will cause country music fans to call her an unamerican cunt, and quit buying her merchandise, and make angry phone calls to radio stations that play her music, that is freedom of speech, too. When she gets arrested for saying it, THAT is an infringement. Death threats are a reasonable form of debate, then?

DedicatedDom40 -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 3:05:10 PM)
quote: While he was running for office, all the liberals in the media gave him all the coverage he wanted for free while Sara Palin was made fun of at every opportunity. They only asked her what newspapers she read, and she made herself into the joke she was. That answer was pure Sarah Palin. Hard to believe it was a conspiracy of the big bad media.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 3:13:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DedicatedDom40 quote: While he was running for office, all the liberals in the media gave him all the coverage he wanted for free while Sara Palin was made fun of at every opportunity. They only asked her what newspapers she read, and she made herself into the joke she was. That answer was pure Sarah Palin. Hard to believe it was a conspiracy of the big bad media. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that - "All of 'em," she said. [sm=biggrin.gif] It was the same with Bush. Remember when he was running for his first term, and the interviewer asked him who the presidents were of various important countries? He had no clue. He got all pissy, and his supporters all bitched afterward about how "unfair" it was to ambush the poor man like that. After all, they said, he wasn't president yet. Why should he have to know who the president of Pakistan was? Plenty of time to learn that after he took office. And people seriously wonder why these fucking imbeciles are made fun of? Give me a break.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 5:01:06 PM)
quote: Before I send this out to be shredded, you all need to realize that conservatives aren't all bible thumpers either. I happen to believe in gay marriages, the legalization of marijuana, and a lot of other issues that liberals like to claim as theirs and theirs alone. There is more than two sides of the fence people. Everyone is so determined that you have to be either a democrat/liberal or a republican/conservative that nothing is being accomplished except a lot of overspending. Look past the party and take a good hard look at the candidate, no matter which party they're from. ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet Scarlet, If this is so, then let me urge you and those like you to take back your party. As of now, there is no moderate conservative presence in the GOP. It has been taken over by the religious right and the neo-conservatives. As a result, there is no choice for a lot of us who view a progressive social agenda as being as important as a sound fiscal agenda. It is only when moderates, those who are not on the fringe will take back their place in a party that has marginalized them that any kind of choice will be presented.

popeye1250 -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 5:21:03 PM)
I think a bunch of"crazies" moved to Norway.

SilverMark -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 6:36:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow I would rather think left-wing coming after Obama. Obama major corporate rescue operations, destroying dollar that hurts poor the most, war escalation in Afganistan, doing practically nothing to fight long-term job losses, defective medical industry written health care bill and so on.... should piss off most left wingers. The largest of the bailouts took place under the previous administration, inflation has yet to rear it's ugly head and has stayed relatively low....long term job losses are indeed an issue but, one that was started due to the credit crunch which needs to be addressed but once again, that wasn't started under Obama only his job to fix it. The war in Afghanistan has yet to truly escalate although I fear it will, and if it doesn't the right will howl like banshees. Defective Medical industry? for the quality of science and health delivery for the most part isn't the question....it is in how of paying for it that is where the confusion starts and ends.....

TheHeretic -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 7:26:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Death threats are a reasonable form of debate, then? Ahhh. Somebody got a new account, it seems.

tazzygirl -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 7:30:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Tell that to Natalie Dixie Chicks. I don't know how many times I have to go over this... Your right to talk shit about the President in no way, shape, or form, infringes my right to form an opinion of you based on that statement, or to express that opinion just as freely as you expressed yours to begin with. Hence, if a country music artist wants to say something that will cause country music fans to call her an unamerican cunt, and quit buying her merchandise, and make angry phone calls to radio stations that play her music, that is freedom of speech, too. When she gets arrested for saying it, THAT is an infringement. I dont have a new account and i was wondering the same thing. Because she chose to voice her opinion, freedom of speech, she recieved many death threats. Guess thats part and parcel of freedom of speech... shut up or die.

MarsBonfire -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 7:54:22 PM)
MsScarlett wrote: "The mainstream media never publishes anything bad about him no matter what he does. He is the only president in history (while actively serving) to sit down with late night comedy talk show hosts and they give him all the time he could possibly want. Some of you had better start taking a closer look at what he's proposing before it's too late. Don't look to the mainstream media to tell you either. " Before you hang on to that beilief for too long, I'd just like to point out that, after he left office, the accountants added up the number of days Bush was actually on the job, compared to the days he spent at the Olympics, clearing brush, or just sitting around in the rocking chair at Camp David... The result is that Bush spent 2/3 of his administration "on vacation." Cheany was the one in charge for most of the last 8 years. (and it showed.) Bush was just the Idiot King... the "Charlie McCarthy," if you will... To Cheany, Rummy and Rove's ventriloquist "Edgar Bergen" control. None of that would have taken place if the media hadn't been thuroughly asleep at the switch for almost the entire time. But then, the GOP has it's own cable channel of eager, propaganda cocksuckers, doesn't it?

TheHeretic -> RE: The crazies are coming out of the and they have radio to support them (10/9/2009 8:02:11 PM)
Death threats? Those we report to the cops. Or we reply with an equally idle threat of awful reprisal. Depends on the individuals involved. I mostly don't endorse using free speech that way. Since the Dixie Chicks remarks were obviously going to stir up strong reactions, are you thinking what they said in the first place should have been banned, or, that since they were popular recording artists, they should be allowed to speak on behalf of Texas, and responses to that then would be banned? Maybe you think nobody should be allowed to say anything, ever?

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