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MrThorns -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/2/2004 8:10:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Estring

I don't think anyone enjoys being called birdbrain or chowderhead. Maybe if they have a 3 Stooges fetish. [:D]


LOL...Gads how the wheels turn. Never before had I the urge to do a scene that invloved anything to do with the three stooges, but suddenly I am having such a desire to:

... ever so slowly, creep up behind that unsuspecting girl....wrapping my forearm around her throat and applying the slightest, yet incredibly noticable pressure. She gasps as her arm is wrenched behind her back and she feels the breath of her assailant against the back of her neck. She feels me close in on her...my lips getting closer to her ear...the steady breathing felt against her skin....almost long to hear the words, "Ahhh.. my little chowderhead. Be still. Be very...very still, my little birdbrained nincompoop, or I will have to hurt you."

Chuckles... I can almost see Moe wearing chaps...

~Thorns




happypervert -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/2/2004 9:12:40 PM)

This may be more Groucho Marx than Three Stooges, but click this linkto see someone does
rubber chicken floggings




squirrelfury -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/3/2004 2:04:25 AM)

Personally, the connotations of the word "slut" to me depend on who's saying it and what's motivating 'em. I generally enjoy the term, both using it to describe myself and others and having it used to describe me. But alot of it can be intent, I think. I tend to use it teasingly with my vanilla friends, along with wench, bitch, whore, et al. Sounds bad within the sterilized context of type, I know, since there's no situational reference or inflection to show the emotion behind it. *shrugs*

As for lovers, kinky or vanilla, I very much thrill to being called a slut. It's one of the few words that instantly and of their own power give me that body-purring feeling of delighted contentment. Lover, pet, slut, boy...all instant happy switches.

Of course, and again, it's all context. "God bless you," and "Have a nice day," can be made to sound like the vilest curses, spoken right.




wiccanscgoddess -> Depends on how you look at it (9/3/2004 6:55:32 AM)

The concept of a Sacred Slut is an interesting topic. In our society, the term "slut" is completely derogatory. It connotes an individual of no moral standard, given to licentious behavior. So, we have to ask what could possibly be sacred about such an individual? We, of the Pagan Community, know that each question and all things have opposite numbers. This being the case, one has to ask what could be sacred about an individual who looks upon another as having no moral standard. If, as Plato and Jung would have us believe, our realities are self-made, then the slut is really the beholder rather than the beholden. All that being the case, I think that the terms must be more closely defined.


In our traditional view a slut is someone who partakes of sex in a wanton manner with all and any comers (excuse the pun), or at least with more than one partner, often at the same time. If that's the case, then I would suggest that a majority of our population at one time or another qualify for slut status. There are a great many people involved in polyamorous relationships that might take umbrage at such an epithet. There are others who will, on occasion, involve themselves with open sexual relationships in a recreational manner that would also be a little alarmed at such a label. There are still others who have a problem equating sexual activities with the quality of an individual in terms of their worth as a person. They can argue that the ability to freely give pleasure to a number of people is significant of greater, rather than lesser worth as a person.


Historically, the idea of a Sacred Slut has precedent. Among most of the pre-Christian and non-Christian societies prostitution was viewed as a real, and often honored profession. Among the Romans and Greeks, one went to a temple and availed oneself of the services of a Temple Virgin, for a small fee (which supported the religious community) prior to engaging in worship. It was felt that this released the individual to concentrate more fully on prayer and the Deities. The act of sexual union and release has often been equated, among Pagan societies, as a point of achieving union with the Deities. Among many "primitive" societies, the sharing of ones wives was considered a necessary and proper form of hospitality. One common thing in all of these societies was a lack of confusion about the temporal and the spiritual. Sex was considered by many to be a sacred activity in a spiritual sense. This is certainly true in our Neo-pagan community. The performance of the Great Rite, whether symbolic or actual, is a completely sacred act. It is only in the Judeo-Moslem-Christian world, that sex is elevated to such importance as to transcend individual worth in all other combined aspects of the person, and is at the same time viewed as being something shameful. This is very confused view of sex and human worth.


It behooves us, therefore to examine just what it is that defines a "slut". One assumes that a slut is someone who has sex with a fairly large number of people, either as a matter of their own choice or at the command of another person. One also has to ask why an individual would engage in such activities. This last issue is of paramount importance. The reasons why one may become a slut fall into a few categories. First is the simply because they enjoy it. It gives them pleasure as well as giving pleasure to others. It makes them feel good. This is not of need a bad thing. Secondly, it is a form of service. This is only a negative thing if we assume the view that service is somehow defaming to the individual and is a totally a matter of involuntary activity. Thirdly, it may be a form of self-expression and self-exploration. Just as the Greek or Roman would engage in sex before worship, or view sex as a form of worship, this idea of self-expression and exploration becomes an act that, by it's very nature vis-à-vis our society, frees us to look more deeply into ourselves and the world around us. This is not a bad thing either. It would appear then, that the only negative aspects of an individual acting as a slut, providing a measure of voluntarism, is the labels that we, as a society place on them. What does this activity look like if we don't put labels on it?


There are people, most people I think, who enjoy sex. They usually have a pleasant expression on their faces and seem to be quite at ease after an orgasm. It certainly doesn't seem to be a painful or difficult thing and they don't seem to be in a state of agitation or distress. Many people find it very gratifying to bring pleasure to others, as well as themselves. When they can bring, or derive that pleasure to more than one person it would seem that the gratification would be in proportion to the number of people pleasured. Somehow this doesn't seem to me to be a bad thing. Such people, in my limited experience, didn't seem to be the worse for wear or have any complaints.


There are others who view such an activity as a form of service. In the performance of this service and number of things happen. If they are in a D/s relationship, it expresses a loyalty to their Dom. It is an act that increases ones worth, both to themselves and to others (again, this assumes that service is not a humiliating experience, but a valued activity). It becomes an enabling experience. There is a great deal of pleasure to be derived from doing a job well and knowing that one is capable. On the other hand, it is a poor master indeed who doesn't seek to educate and enrich the lives of those who would serve. It is also a poor master who does not demand obedience in the search of excellence. No one wants to serve, or be served, badly. In fact, many masters talk with pride of those who serve them, and most submissives take an equal pride in their ability to serve well. When one can say "I am the best at what I do" or "I can honestly say that I've done the absolute best I possibly can" (and know that it is true), one feels ennobled, elevated and exhilarated. Wearing a collar under these circumstances is a matter of pride. That's not bad at all.


As a form of self-exploration and self-expression, the slut has a great deal going for themselves. There are a number of terms which our society views as epithets. Being a slut is one of them. If we are to look at our selves and our society, we need to be free to make that examination in a detached way. Very often a master will address those who serve in a manner or in terms that many might find offensive. There is often a reason for this (assuming again that the Dom has the best interest of the subbie at heart). Once one gets used to and accepts the concept of being a slut, pig, whore, cunt or what ever term is applied, then one places oneself outside of the "norm" of society. At that point it is possible to view oneself in terms of how well they perform their duties and to view themselves as total individuals, since the sexual aspects of their lives are no longer at issue. The subbie is allowed to enjoy the totality of the experience as a physical, intellectual and emotional expression of their own selves and own needs. It also frees them to look at the world around them and the activities and practices of that world in very real, almost scientific terms. This kind of clinical examination leaves very few places in which truth may be hidden. The subbie then may clearly say "Yes, I am a slut and I'm very good at it. I can do it all and do it well. I like it and since I cannot be intimidated or embarrassed by it, I can see the world for what it is. I accept myself and am accepted as myself. My collar is a badge of freedom". One wonders how many people can say as much.


The issue now is one of what is sacred about such activity. Among Wiccans and many Neo-Pagans, there are, in the "Charge of the Goddess", words to the effect that all acts of pleasure are My worship. That worship is sacred. In the ritual of Cakes and Ale, a symbolic great rite is performed. This is an act of consecration in which the Goddess and God join in sexual union. That union is sacred. The mixture of semen and vaginal fluids is considered to be the "elixir of life". Aptly named and quite sacred. These few things alone clearly define the nature of sex as being sacred. A slut therefore, who becomes adept at bringing sexual pleasure in as many ways as possible, becomes a very sacred individual indeed. This is clearly something to be treasured, respected and sought. In many ways, a worthy slut, is by nature, inherently sacred and in the performance of their duty are engaging in and involving others in an act of worship




lanette -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/4/2004 12:23:28 AM)

i love being called a slut... especially if the word "My" is in front of it...
l.




MissFem -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/4/2004 4:25:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lanette

i love being called a slut... especially if the word "My" is in front of it...
l.





HAHAHAHA thats cuz ya are LAMo




PranksterBitch -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/5/2004 2:39:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissFem

quote:

ORIGINAL: lanette

i love being called a slut... especially if the word "My" is in front of it...
l.


HAHAHAHA thats cuz ya are LAMo


That's cool .. "Head bob" .. kicks stone .. I had a slut for a friend once. [:D]




smile2cu -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/5/2004 3:24:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kiki blue
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ORIGINAL: WayHome
Question: "What do you call a male slut?"
The answer is: "You call him a 'stud'".

I call them sluts. Though I much prefer the term "manwhore". That's gotta be one of my favourite words.

You're my kind of people! [:)]

I don't think I'd mind being called a slut.
The opening words of my profile are "I love pleasing women".
Practice and listening seem to have helped.

I think whether you're offended or not by what you're called depends a lot of whether you're happy with it or not. See the smile. It's a clue! [sm=lol.gif]

Why is everyone so far away??[:(]

~smile~




topcat -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/6/2004 7:54:30 AM)

Midear Des-

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In my mind, "slut" is a very dishonorable word,


In my experiance, "slut" is most often used by a woman to describe a woman who's doing something that she's afriad to do.

'Slut' to me, means a woman who can call her own shots sexually, who owns her desire, who is not afraid of her own needs.

Not to worry- It's not likely I'll ever call you that.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




sting516 -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/6/2004 2:17:22 PM)

funny that you mention enjoying the term manwhore, as that is my screen name on aol (manwhorre, actually)...personally, i love being called whore, slut, bitch, c--t...the more degrading the better...additionally, i enjoy degrading scene...but that's likely a different thread.

just my two cents,

sting




MaitresseEden -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/6/2004 5:21:31 PM)

Here is an interesting article on the subject of woman as "Sluts"

http://eserver.org/bs/20/Nicolini.html

Enjoy..

Ms.Eden




MrThorns -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/6/2004 7:16:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sting516

funny that you mention enjoying the term manwhore, as that is my screen name on aol (manwhorre, actually)...personally, i love being called whore, slut, bitch, c--t...the more degrading the better...additionally, i enjoy degrading scene...but that's likely a different thread.

just my two cents,

sting


Oooooh don't censor...g'head...say it...

"cunt"

shivers...gads I love that word.

I would recommend to you that resonate with the term "slut" to read the book, "The Ethical Slut". I don't recall the author, but it was a very good read.

~Thorns




MaitresseEden -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/6/2004 7:51:05 PM)

http://www.greenerypress.com/
The Ethical Slut
A Guide to Infinite Sexual Possibilities

authors: Dossie Easton and Catherine A. Liszt
ISBN: 1-890159-01-8
specifications: 6" x 9", 288 pages
$16.95 + shipping


Beyond the often unrealistic ideal of lifetime monogamy lies an uncharted jungle of delightful options - everything from committed multi-partner relationships to friendly sex, casual sex, group sex and more. In this groundbreaking volume, "Bottoming Book" and "Topping Book" authors Easton and Liszt provide a road map for exploring this sometimes difficult, often rewarding territory. Warm, informative details about how to get your needs met, manage your jealousy, make agreements that work for all concerned, talk to your friends and relatives, and build a life full of all the sex and love you want.



"Frank, funny, and full of practical advice! A survival guide for practicing polyamory in the '90s.... offers life-saving validation, empathy, and plenty of insider tips from the experienced big sisters you proably weren't fortunate enough to have." - Deborah Anapol, Ph.D., author, Polyamory: The New Love Without Limits

"A useful guidebook for radical relationship travelers... experienced counsel to those on the poly sexual frontier." - Ryam Nearing, LovingMore Magazine




Dossie Easton, a San Francisco therapist, has been an active sex radical since 1961. While she is a well-known bottom, Dossie also tops, and has taught dozens of classes on S/M techniques, skills and philosophy. She was one of the first members of the Society of Janus in San Francisco, and has been a leader in the emerging area of S/M practice that links S/M and spirituality. Catherine A. Liszt (aka Janet Hardy and Lady Green) is a writer, perv, pain slut and educator who has been fantasizing about S/M since she was too little to wrap her hand around a whip handle. A live interview with Catherine A. Liszt can be heard on eyada.com.




rain -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/7/2004 6:10:08 AM)

i agree with kiki blue here: as it also happens to be a term of endearment with my kinky friends as well.

Particularly with hug sluts, and that includes me.

In terms of derogatory names, i love it! When i'm playing with someone, i prefer to be called: slut, whore, bitch, cunt....slap me face, pull my hair and i'm in extascy!

~rain~




MrThorns -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/7/2004 6:46:21 AM)

Thank you Eden for posting the info about the book....

~Thorns




perverseangelic -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/7/2004 10:11:22 AM)

Incedentally, there's also a book called Cunt which is really really really good. :) Commentary on the word and its usages and reclamation et al.




temptation -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/8/2004 1:44:59 AM)

I hate the word slut.. because I guess, for the younger generations.. we havent completely owned the term yet.. its hard to just jokingly call eachother it...

because to us, it means.. we're easy :|




realophelia -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/12/2004 8:33:00 PM)

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I will say right here and right now, I am not interested in being a pain slut. As a matter of fact, I will not be referred to as a slut by anyone. In my mind, "slut" is a very dishonorable word, and I will not tolerate it.


That's perfectly fine. If you don't like something, you shouldn't do it. Personally, I like it when the person I'm intimate with calls me a slut. To me it's an affectionate, mildly humiliating word and I enjoy hearing it. Though never from someone I'm not directly involved with.

Take care,
Ophelia




Mercnbeth -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/13/2004 10:18:56 AM)

Everyone comes into the lifestyle with preconceived ideas and limits. I am amazed how some, usually a submissive, have as many 'hard limits' about what they are called as they do about different types of play. In your case the word 'slut'.
I don't have a relationship currently with a submissive, I have a slave. And I can relate to your feeling because for as long as I have been active in the lifestyle I never liked the historical connotation of the word 'slave'. Specifically, how 'slave' indicated non-consensual ownership. Well, in my case obviously that doesn't apply. But acknowledging that I own a slave, that I am a 'slave owner' is just as dishonorable in the 'hard wiring of my mind. Because of that, I considered the Gor term kijara for a time, but it was uncomfortable coming off the tongue. So a slave is what she is called and what she is. And she also enjoys being called my slave.
Interesting enough, she enjoys being called 'my slut'. I think the possessiveness of being mine differentiates it. she has told me she tingles when she hears me call to her like; "Come here my slut!". But she has a word she doesn't like - bitch. she hates that reference. For her, that's her 'dishonorable' word.
Just realize that it's your mind, your experience, that sets a value to words. When you find your partner, make sure you are honest and discuss your feelings with him/her. It will not be easy to abandon the baggage of your prior hard life and experiences. Before giving yourself to anyone else, you must give yourself to you. Allowing yourself to be yourself is the first step.
Remember, it's only a word.

Merc




LadyKatherine -> RE: Being called "slut" (9/14/2004 6:50:04 PM)

I for one do call My male sub a slut , he is referred to as My slut and any subs that I have ever had in the past have been also . I think in the BDSM LIFESTYLE the meaning of the word SLUT is different then the way We have always known it to be. Yes we have always known it to mean that your a women or a person that sleeps around alot , hopping from man to man, bed to bed..BUT in the D/S S/M Lifestyle this meaning changes , well for Me anyways. I do not take the word slut in the BDSM manner it is spoken to mean the same as the traditional word slut. To Me My sub is My slut , I call him a slut he serves Me , and Me only unless I say otherwise.
And any male Dom that would refer to his fem sub as being a slut I still wouldnt think of it in the traditional manner but instead in the BDSM manner that it is meant.
SLUT doesnt have to mean you sleep around , not in the BDSM sence. But just My opinion.
smiles
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ORIGINAL: WayHome

Question: "What do you call a male slut?"
Men can certainly exhibit "slutty behavior", so why don't they get called sluts? (exceptions for the ocasional sissy sub of course)


The answer is: "You call him a 'stud'".
Kinda puts a whole new perspective on the word for a lot of people, realizing just how much the negativity is related to gender roles.


Leto




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