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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 10:48:44 AM   
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The middle class will pay, they always do. This an old horse with a new blanket, nothing more but a continuation of the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the business and investor class with a pretty new shiny bow on it. The health insurance industry is just the sacrificial lamb in the process of making other industries billions in increased profits.

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How long do you think a private insurance company can stay in business when they are being taxed at a rate of 40% ? When they are gone there will be no one left to tax. Then who will pay ?



What other industries?


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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 10:50:24 AM   
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LOL.. the ones that pay for boob jobs?


Let's hope not, I like those big fake tits. 

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 10:58:23 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:02:27 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.

There's enough demand for that one to make it doable though, surely? A lot more people have breast implants than have (say) a liver transplant or their retina reattached.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:06:22 AM   
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I said elective.  I dont consider a woman with one breast to be looking at such a procedure as an election.  The strippers, the 20 something's, the old ladies wanting to drag the twins back up from their knees... lol... let them pay for them out of pocket.  Health care dollars should not be going to such procedures simply because we "want" them.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:12:12 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.


It's not elective if it is a job-related requirement at the titty bar.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:14:38 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.


It's not elective if it is a job-related requirement at the titty bar.



How about women who've had a mastectomy or a particularly unpleasant accident? How about male to female transsexuals? is it still elective then?

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:18:14 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.


It's not elective if it is a job-related requirement at the titty bar.



How about women who've had a mastectomy or a particularly unpleasant accident? How about male to female transsexuals? is it still elective then?


You really know how to ruin a good joke. 

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:19:45 AM   
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Sorry. Should have used a separate post for the smiley and adressed the other to tazzygirl.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:32:09 AM   
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Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.


It's not elective if it is a job-related requirement at the titty bar.



How about women who've had a mastectomy or a particularly unpleasant accident? How about male to female transsexuals? is it still elective then?


Try reading the posts.  I already addressed this.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 11:33:09 AM   
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There will always be a man willing to pay for it, rule. 

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 12:59:09 PM   
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Those are two different things. Those Medicare cuts are past cuts, while Obamacare threatens to slash hundreds of billions more from Medicaid  (as per your post #57).





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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 1:36:22 PM   
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The future cuts will be in the 400 billion range. The seniors will throw out anyone who votes for that part of any bill.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 1:47:48 PM   
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Those cuts are upcoming brought on by PAST administrations.  They are still pending.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 2:27:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nothing wrong with them.  I think its absurb to expect an insurance policy to pay for an extremely elective procedure.


It's not elective if it is a job-related requirement at the titty bar.



How about women who've had a mastectomy or a particularly unpleasant accident? How about male to female transsexuals? is it still elective then?


Try reading the posts.  I already addressed this.

You did. Sorry I missed that.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 5:12:21 PM   
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LOL.. the ones that pay for boob jobs?


The American people already pay for boob jobs. They're called congressional seats.


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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/17/2009 8:38:28 PM   
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LOL.. the ones that pay for boob jobs?


The American people already pay for boob jobs. They're called congressional seats.


I think you've hit on something.

Third parties in this country never do well, but what if we start the Stripper Party?

They would probably be more intelligent and definitely better to look at.

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RE: You pay your insurance an it still don't matter - 10/18/2009 6:30:47 PM   
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Dump it all in the trash, I did. No insurance no nothing, I get sick I either get well or not. They don't owe me and I don't owe them. Fuck them right up the ass with a 4X4, and I am not sure if I mean a piece of wood or a truck.

But you know what ? This is freedom. Nobody tells me to quit anything, lose weight or anything. I have been doing as I please since I was 12, and I sure as hell am not stopping now.

The whole issue of insurance is skewed IMO. The founding Fathers were against it, and so am I. Let all these MFs go out of business and let the suits get real jobs. Let the docs work in fast food, or at a car wash. Fuck them all.

Freedom is not free. But people forget when you take a stand to might have to pay the ultimate price. I don't pay income taxes either. I want nothing from them, I see anything they are willing to give as diseased, like the blankets they gave the Indians long ago. Tainted, marked, poison. I don't take their pills, I don't agree with their theories including the food pyramid. I don't like how they do things. I want no part of it. Hospitals have killed more people than the Viet Nam war (oh, police action, I forgot). Logically I would rather be drafted than go to a hospital.

What's more, I have plenty of family members who do pay income taxes. I want someone to give me a good fucking reason why my Mother has to pay for someone else's care. You want your insurance, well I want some beer. You pay for your insurance and I will pay for my beer. Fair enough ?

Remember the movie Harlem knights ? "Everybody in this business is a criminal". Well let me rephrase that to fit reality -"Everybody is a criminal". Period. The book Infernoland was based on Dante's Inferno. Within one of the levels of hell there are two politicians with their ass connected to their mouth. They tried to talk shit would come out. It was explained that even though they were in opposition to one another and one was right, they both THOUGHT they were wrong, and just doing it for the money. Why the hell would I want to get involved with assholes like that ?

So the whole debate is moot. If you want to be free, you can't be owned. Let me tell you another thing. If by contract I am subrogated to pay for your traffic wrecks, I think I would be well within my rights to assure that you are a defensive driver. Likewise if I have to pay for your medical care, wouldn't I then have the right to see that you didn't live on junk food and eat empty carbs, do drugs or drink excessively ? Wouldn't I have that right ? They inspect your house for hazards before issuing a policy on it, why would this be any different ?

True freedom IS all about risk. My risk is my risk, solely. When I let someone else take care of me, the risk is transferred to them. With that goes some of my rights. I choose not to participate.

Now if everybody did the same, a CAT scan would be $15, an office visit $15. Surgery $100 or so. Drugs, about a buck a bottle. The market simply would not bear what they ask for those services today. What would happen ? Would the current crop of med students poised to become legal drug pushers be replaced with people who care ? People without the $$$ in their eyes ? What do you think would happen ?

So to sum it up - insurance overall has interfered with the natural forces of a free market. But people are so fucking scared that they will grasp willy-nilly for straws. Between the limitaions of current medical science and malpractice you are going to die anyway. They will sign away their right to go to the fucking bathroom for salvation from ills they most likely caused themselves. That is not me, and never will be. Look me in the eye and tell me I will die. You will see a massacre. My last days will be spent just finding the right people to take along with me. Burn my bullet ridden corpse and put it in an urn. Fuck it, I will have made a difference.

Some say I am stubborn, I call it resolve. Some say I am hard to deal with at times, I call that Mama didn't raise any fools. Some call me an outlaw, to which I respond - what is law ? I obey and respect the Constitution, all that chicken scribble written thereafter means nothing to me.

Look at them, welfare sheeple on the bus or streetcorner. They will vote for anyone they think will give them more welfare. Look at seniors, they will vote for anyone who will give them more. Look at the suits, they will vote for anyone they think will give them more.

Now look at yourselves. Maladjusted and sick, three specialists and on five or fifteen prescriptions. Someone will give you more, but they are going to burn the whole fucking country to the ground. Who would YOU vote for ?

I got a deal for you. You pay for your problems and I will pay for mine. OK ?

T

PS More on insurance later. I spoke my piece here. Much more would be a hijack.

T

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