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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:00:19 AM   
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If there's no "diety" how can it be a religion?



Wicca?

Nation & World | VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle | Seattle Times ...VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle. The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on government-issued ...


Wiccans have deities.


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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:02:15 AM   
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If there's no "diety" how can it be a religion?



Wicca?

Nation & World | VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle | Seattle Times ...VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle. The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on government-issued ...


Wiccans have deities.



Does wiccan count as a proper/official religion then?

Well I never knew that. Cheers!

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:08:19 AM   
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Nation & World | VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle | Seattle Times ...VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle. The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on government-issued ...




Does wiccan count as a proper/official religion then?

Well I never knew that. Cheers!


yes!!! and it is a NEW YEAR this evening for some of us

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:09:03 AM   
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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:10:09 AM   
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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:10:11 AM   
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Nation & World | VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle | Seattle Times ...VA allows use of Wiccan pentacle. The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on government-issued ...




Does wiccan count as a proper/official religion then?

Well I never knew that. Cheers!


yes!!! and it is a NEW YEAR this evening for some of us

GM


Ah yes, so it is! Happy whassname then, and may your ... well may whatever is supposed to happen, happen.

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:11:17 AM   
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Buddhism has no deities in the way that most people understand deities. 

It's more a philosophy than religion, yes.

However, americanized buddhism has taken its occidental fascination with monotheistic systems to where it somehow identifies "buddha" as a deity. *shrug*

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:18:08 AM   
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Is Scientology a religion?


for those in it propably..yes...for the rest it doesn't matter ( untill they try to influence the world outside their religion).

I see it as;
BDSM is normal for those in the lifestyle....while others call us weird and sick.
Nobody should care as long as anyone doesn't do harm to outsiders.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion 
(no need to invent the meaning of religion again)

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:21:32 AM   
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Buddhism has no deities in the way that most people understand deities. 

It's more a philosophy than religion, yes.

However, americanized buddhism has taken its occidental fascination with monotheistic systems to where it somehow identifies "buddha" as a deity. *shrug*


I was just pointing out that (I'm fairly certain) it's accepted as a religion in the US while not having an actual deity.

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:26:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		If Buddism has no deity..why is it called afther Buddha? And why do they bow to those cute little fat men.
(just wondering or is this more soemthing they do for tourists)

Always thought he had a similar "role" as Jesus...

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:27:39 AM   
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I was just pointing out that (I'm fairly certain) it's accepted as a religion in the US while not having an actual deity.

And I was just agreeing with you in a somewhat convoluted fashion.


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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:33:07 AM   
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If Buddism has no deity..why is it called afther Buddha?



Coz calling it not-really-wanting-to-decide-on-a-figurehead-and-or-diety-thank-you-ism would have looked silly

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:36:49 AM   
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If Buddism has no deity..why is it called afther Buddha? And why do they bow to those cute little fat men.
(just wondering or is this more soemthing they do for tourists)

Always thought he had a similar "role" as Jesus...

Buddha-nature isn't an individual but a state of enlightenment. The fat buddha images come from geographical sects that drew connections between buddha and nobility/success. Gautama is pictured as a slender man.


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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:47:52 AM   
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(you answered that already).

It is funny to hear it beeing said we have no diety..and still they kinda "worship" him. At least I personally don't see much difference with other religions....besides the followers acting differently.
And that last is ofcourse the most important.

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:49:45 AM   
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But Buddha was a person not?


Um...

Yes?

(He was a person).

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:51:22 AM   
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But Buddha was a person not?


Um...

Yes?

(He was a person).



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I wonder why he is less a deity then Jesus

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:52:06 AM   
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.It is funny to hear it beeing said we have no diety..and still they kinda "worship" him. At least I personally don't see much difference with other religions....besides the followers acting differently.
And that last is ofcourse the most important.


He's not so much a deity as an example to follow. He transcended the normal mortal human realm and achieved enlightenment.

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:55:01 AM   
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But Buddha was a person not?


Um...

Yes?

(He was a person).



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I wonder why he is less a deity then Jesus


Because Jesus was (supposedly) the son of god, whereas Buddha was just a bloke.

Godlike vs mortal. Jesus wins by TKO, but Buddha doesn't care, coz he's totally chilled about everything

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:55:03 AM   
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I am not religious..so I have no clue. From the outside they look the same.

But thank you for answering.

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RE: Is Scientology a religion? - 10/31/2009 1:57:10 AM   
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And Jesus wasn't meant to be the same?

I am not religious..so I have no clue. From the outside they look the same.

But thank you for answering.


According to the Christian theology Jesus was divine and the son of God.

Buddha became enlightened. Very different.

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