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You are submissive yet refuse to address Dom as Sir in public.

Agree

28% (12)

Disagree

71% (30)

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RE: You are a submissive in public refusing to address ... - 11/9/2009 1:01:07 AM

DemonKia

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FR, after continuing skim thru

lol

Okay, I'm gonna mostly skirt around the main thrust of the discussion that developed about saying 'Master' or whatever in public in favor of a rant that really caught my mind, sorta tangential. Make what ya will, ya will anyway, lol . . . .

Swearing. Cussing. Naughty words. Bad words. Uh huh . . . ..

I mostly try to be a good girl, but I like to swear. &, while I do try to exercise some restraint in, say, some family restaurant full o' ostensibly vanilla seniors & chilluns & etc, yeah, well . . . . . & I'm really bad about subject matter, mostly cuz I really don't give a flying fuck if the content of my conversation bothers ya too terribly much. Grow a mind, the cynicallest part of me sez . . . . . .

& there's nuance, too . . . . . I raised chilluns & they don't swear & I was horrid about language, relative to some perspectives. On the other hand I used my full vocab on them & they were relatively sophisticated users of the language early & etc . . . . .

When they hit school age we had many a very frank conversation that went something like this: If you swear at school they will not like it & you will get to deal with those repercussions. & they did. & now they're much better behaved adults than I was at their ages, lol . . . . . Anyways.

Thru heroic effort of will & discipline, I managed to host a call-in talk-radio show on the local community radio (not NPR, the hippier alternative, lol), alternating Saturday mornings for 3 1/2 years. Two hours of carefully marshaling my full armoire of 'vanilla' gosh-golly-gee-whillickerisms every other week. & I couldn't talk about sex, & that's my favorite topic in the world. It felt like being in straightjacket. They'd like me back, but I'm only interested in doing an after-midnight show where I can be less-fettered, but after Janet's little nipple incident, they all freaked out & so . . .. . . Eh . . . . *shrugs* . .. . Limbo-land . . . ..

For various reasons I've always had a strong interest & attachment to US Constitutional First Amendment & other free expression issues. & the restriction of language in particular has always bugged shit outta me. Language serves us, we are not its slaves. It evolves with us, shifting & changing, as adaptable as any other aspect of that most adaptable of critters, us . . . . .

One of the most crucial aspects of free expression is the right to express the objectionable, with an important caveat; the tipping point for suppression seems most logically to be where the harm caused by the expression exceeds the harm caused by its suppression.

A parallel case to this free expression caveat can be found in cannabis suppression, where an argument can be made that the harms of suppressing cannabis use & etc quite exceed & exacerbate the harms of cannabis usage. A similar argument can be made for prostitution.

The question becomes where the lines of harm can be seen.

I am devoutly of the belief that, in & of themselves, fuck-shit-piss-cunt-motherfucker-tits-cocksucker are not harmful.

& the suppression of them carries a fair amount of inadvertent 'forbidden apple' appeal to those seeking to be naughty. Like kids. For instance, my kids didn't get much outrage mileage outta swearing, & generally backed down from any attempt at competitive shocking with me, lol . ... They all are quite reserved & polite when it comes to ribald bawdiness.

I don't swear like a stand-up comedian all the time, & I also spend very little time in situations where I absolutely have to watch my language.

& here's one o' the head-scratchers I always encounter when I attempt to 'police' my linguistic excesses: where does it stop? I truly find the notion that tits & piss are verboten to be ludicrous. Sorry. Not climbing on board that one. Naughty naughty me . . . .. . How about '69' or 'sodomy'? What about 'anal' or clitoris or vagina or breast or nipple or ???? All of these are potentially shocking, even obscene under that technical definition the FCC explains in the link, above . . ...

I can support boundaries around the imposition of adult sexuality on children. There are significant harms possible both in suppressing & expressing sexuality with regard to the underage, & creating a 'safe space' for children to be children is a legitimate social concern. But naughty words, in & of themselves, do not rise to that level, certainly not as a priority that would divert energy & etc from, say, social supports aimed at suppressing physical, emotional, & / or sexual abuse.

*Note: despite how it might read, I mostly don't advocate much of anything, giving advice can be a huge waste of time & non-negotiated, non-consensual orders is similarly futile. Opinion, mostly.

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RE: You are a submissive in public refusing to address ... - 11/9/2009 8:56:01 AM

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when ever someone tells me not to stop cussing in front of their kids my natural reaction is "oooh shit sorry" then "fuck i didn't mean that!" for some reason when I they point it out to me I get nervous, stat cussing more and end up looking like a complete asshole.

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RE: You are a submissive in public refusing to address ... - 11/9/2009 11:20:27 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BKSir

One, I have to admit that I am thankful I don't have the UM thing to have to consider in this. I'd be a horrible parent anyway.

Two, I don't fault anyone for being able to turn it on and off like a light switch. Obviously. Or I wouldn't have told my pet he didn't have to. That's entirely your call there, and you, I think, are making the absolutely correct decision on it. :)

The thing that upsets me the most is the fact that some people out there have the audacity to call themselves adults, but are so sheltered or insecure or just generally pathetic that they expect me to pussyfoot around everything to protect them from hearing something. Also that they're so hypocritical that they deal with worse situations hundreds of times every day on tv and these here interwebs and on billboards, in magazines, newspapers, radio, etc. But when a real person sitting at a table behind them says something even remotely unusual which they shouldn't be eavesdropping in on anyway, they have a coronary.

In a situation such as DesFIP's though, or, for example, if I thought for a second that the pets family was showing any signs of unease with it, I would have him stop calling me that immediately around them.

DesFIP, a little advice if I may. Shrug off what the OP thinks. His opinions matter about as much as mine in the long run, which is to say, not at all.

Your situation is yours, not his, not mine, not John Q. Public next door's. You deal with your situation how you feel is best. That, and that alone, is what matters.

Sorry BKSir, didn't mean to aim this at you in specific. It's the fact that there are so many closed minded people who seem to think that doing or saying any one thing lets them win the sub one upmnanship Olympics. It's a relationship, each one has areas on concern specific to the people involved. But setting it up that if you do what's right for you, then you aren't a 'twue submittive' is just irritating as all fuck.

I have put him on ignore. Unfortunately CM shows the newest post at the op and it suckers us back.

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RE: You are a submissive in public refusing to address ... - 11/9/2009 11:26:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: BKSir

One, I have to admit that I am thankful I don't have the UM thing to have to consider in this. I'd be a horrible parent anyway.

Two, I don't fault anyone for being able to turn it on and off like a light switch. Obviously. Or I wouldn't have told my pet he didn't have to. That's entirely your call there, and you, I think, are making the absolutely correct decision on it. :)

The thing that upsets me the most is the fact that some people out there have the audacity to call themselves adults, but are so sheltered or insecure or just generally pathetic that they expect me to pussyfoot around everything to protect them from hearing something. Also that they're so hypocritical that they deal with worse situations hundreds of times every day on tv and these here interwebs and on billboards, in magazines, newspapers, radio, etc. But when a real person sitting at a table behind them says something even remotely unusual which they shouldn't be eavesdropping in on anyway, they have a coronary.

In a situation such as DesFIP's though, or, for example, if I thought for a second that the pets family was showing any signs of unease with it, I would have him stop calling me that immediately around them.

DesFIP, a little advice if I may. Shrug off what the OP thinks. His opinions matter about as much as mine in the long run, which is to say, not at all.

Your situation is yours, not his, not mine, not John Q. Public next door's. You deal with your situation how you feel is best. That, and that alone, is what matters.

Sorry BKSir, didn't mean to aim this at you in specific. It's the fact that there are so many closed minded people who seem to think that doing or saying any one thing lets them win the sub one upmnanship Olympics. It's a relationship, each one has areas on concern specific to the people involved. But setting it up that if you do what's right for you, then you aren't a 'twue submittive' is just irritating as all fuck.

I have put him on ignore. Unfortunately CM shows the newest post at the op and it suckers us back.

*HUG* No worries hon. I was more just clarifying a couple of my (as usual) fuzzy thoughts.

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