AnnaOfAramis -> RE: Why do some Masters feel that they have to lie? (11/12/2009 12:51:18 PM)
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Except as an art major, I can tell you there is huge debate regarding who is a master, what is an artist and not all artists accept the "masters" as the masters. Doubtless there is also as much variance in who I would accept as a master versus who some other slave would accept as a master. Each person is unique and requires their own set of qualities in order to be mastered. I am not going to be mastered by the same person as another girl who is different than me. quote:
Except that the point of martial arts isn't to attain some huge amount of skill. Speaking as a martial artist who attained a black belt, the point is train yourself and to gain discipline, and respect for those around you. While those who train for a long time and attain an incredible amount of skill are respected highly, isn't a big "OMG IT'S TEH MASTER" deal. Perfect! My point exactly. [:)] I wasn't referring to skill. But to train yourself and to gain discipline, and respect for those around you which is exactly what I think a master does- strive to improve himself and be the best man he can be. quote:
And what are these mythical "higher standards" that are so much better than what every other decent, honorable human being lives by? No they are not mythical and they are not better than any other decent, honourable human being. They simply are people whom I include in that category of "decent honorable human beings"- which is unfortunately a fairly small group nowadays. By "higher standards" I mean higher than those of the people who are not decent or honourable... like the ones who deliberately deceive, (as the OP was asking), who use people for their own gain, who back stab, who cheat etc. etc. Yes, I expect a higher standard than that. quote:
Will they never forget a birthday, never screw up at all? Never, ever, ever get angry and cause me to cry? Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I said "Does this mean they are infallible? No, but making the occasional mistake is different than it just being their modus operandi- and generally those who are at that standard of Master, are also quick to admit their mistakes and own them" Naturally they screw up, but my point is that there is a difference between someone who is aiming to do the right thing and errs, versus someone who is simply unscrupulous. quote:
But these aren't higher standards. These are the standards I held all of my partners to. Maybe we should stop regarding a dominant being a decent person as magical and just expect it and move on when they aren't If you move on when people don't meet these standards, than you are holding the people you select as partners to a higher standard than those you don't select. So you do hold them to "higher standards." No one is looking for dominants to be magical or mythical or to be some higher supreme being like the Buddha-they'd be waiting a very long time, lol. As I started out saying, dominance is just a characteristic and has nothing to do with scruples and character. But for someone to master me, they would have to be a decent person, otherwise I simply wouldn't admire them and look up to them. We all have our own lines of what we will accept or not. Regards, anna
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