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GreedyTop -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:11:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

If you think that the person is a male, then everyone on the site with Female Dominant on their profile is a man, no thats so silly and ridiculous, Of course THE person is FEMALE.
Kevin



just out of curiosity...


what illicit drugs are you on?




mnottertail -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:12:02 AM)

here you go Aylee:

A: I am a man from Dublin.
B: Dublin men and Dublin women are not liars.

Therefore;

C. (we should stand behind the sockpuppet profile and) garner support to have pro Dommes banned or at least become less influential and less popular on this website.

(btw, is the sockpuppet profile so passionate about this that he will come out and post his own argument for this needful and critical crisis in BDSM?)




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:13:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

So from some of the lengthy responses, I take it that there are some here that are unfamiliar with kevin?


I'm aware that he's mentally challenged at the very least.  But the topic is worth addressing, as there are folks who really don't understand the difference between a genuinely professional domme (with all of the codes and ethics implied by the word "professional") and the hordes of online scammers who want something for nothing and who seek an exploiter to victim relationship rather than a professional to client relationship.

The relationship of professional to client is one of serious ethical responsibility.  That doesn't change, or it shouldn't change, just because it's kinky.  As far as I'm concerned, that is what makes a professional.  And I for one am proud to be one, both in and out of the dungeon.




subtlebutterfly -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:13:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain
secondly people here are looking for relationships.

Wrong, not all people are.
Pro dominants usually come across directly stating they are pro. If you don't like it you simply jump over to the next profile.




JanaeDragon -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:17:16 AM)

Absolutley should not ban pro Dommes from the site, I am not a pro Domme but m a Domme, maybe those who object so strongly should simply read the persons profile they would like to get to know , before they embarrass themselves. It really just comes down to being polite and knowing who someone is, before you ask to pvt. etc. Simply put, Rude people suck!! Hope those who can read understand . XXX Janae




ncbabe -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:19:02 AM)

I'm half Irish.  Does that mean that half the time I'm telling the truth and half the time I'm not?




BKSir -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:26:24 AM)

The only problems I have with Pro-whatevers here isn't actually WITH them, or even technically a problem.  More of a concern.  And that's the legalities of the issue.  It could be easily confused with prostitution, and, last I checked, that's illegal pretty much everywhere in North America at least, not sure about the rest of the world, never really had a reason to look into that.  There's a very fine line there that could quickly become crossed.  And I'd hate for the site to get nailed for big pimpin'.  But, with the internet the way it is nowadays, there's a LOT of grey area.

Otherwise, hey, let bygones be bygones.  They're at least being open and honest about the whole, "If you want me to whip you, here's my fees.  Don't expect emotional attachment, or for me to call you tomorrow.  It ain't gonna happen bucky."




mnottertail -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:26:36 AM)

oh? Northern Cork? I thought north carolina mebbe




Aylee -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:27:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

here you go Aylee:

A: I am a man from Dublin.
B: Dublin men and Dublin women are not liars.

Therefore;

C. (we should stand behind the sockpuppet profile and) garner support to have pro Dommes banned or at least become less influential and less popular on this website.

(btw, is the sockpuppet profile so passionate about this that he will come out and post his own argument for this needful and critical crisis in BDSM?)


I do not think that is a proper syllogism Ron.  But the ladies should be lining up to give you that blow job ANY minute now. [:)]




mnottertail -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:27:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BKSir

The only problems I have with Pro-whatevers here isn't actually WITH them, or even technically a problem.  More of a concern.  And that's the legalities of the issue.  It could be easily confused with prostitution, and, last I checked, that's illegal pretty much everywhere in North America at least, not sure about the rest of the world, never really had a reason to look into that.  There's a very fine line there that could quickly become crossed.  And I'd hate for the site to get nailed for big pimpin'.  But, with the internet the way it is nowadays, there's a LOT of grey area.

Otherwise, hey, let bygones be bygones.  They're at least being open and honest about the whole, "If you want me to whip you, here's my fees.  Don't expect emotional attachment, or for me to call you tomorrow.  It ain't gonna happen bucky."




so, the beating the shit outta the subs thingie, you're thinking that's gonna get a pass, then?




mnottertail -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:29:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

here you go Aylee:

A: I am a man from Dublin.
B: Dublin men and Dublin women are not liars.

Therefore;

C. (we should stand behind the sockpuppet profile and) garner support to have pro Dommes banned or at least become less influential and less popular on this website.

(btw, is the sockpuppet profile so passionate about this that he will come out and post his own argument for this needful and critical crisis in BDSM?)


I do not think that is a proper syllogism Ron.  But the ladies should be lining up to give you that blow job ANY minute now. [:)]



Well, it is the finest one I can construct out of the shit I am given to work with.




daintydimples -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:34:36 AM)

*Gives a big wave to kevie (the OP)* and reminds him I'm decked out in my spiky boots and spilling drinks all ovah everyyyyyyybody.




ncbabe -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 11:36:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

oh? Northern Cork? I thought north carolina mebbe


nope, you were right, north carolina




DemonKia -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 12:00:33 PM)

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Oh, my . .. .. *fans self*

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Prostitution, & all consensual adult businesses, basically, should be legal & regulated & taxed & etc, everything else is essentially immoral & inefficient, in my book. I'm sparing everyone the lengthy jabber on this one, the many reasons why I believe this . . . . .

Save this pertinent one: a significant reason professional adult service provision should be a licit & respected part of society is that they are absolutely crucial in the 'care & feeding' of the socially inept.

It's a mitzvah to help the crippled, the clueless, the idiots, the helplessly naive & stultified & etc, no matter how annoying that may be. In fact, spiritually speaking, overcoming ones feelings of annoyance, rage, frustration, & etc is one of the goals . . . . .

I hope it's obvious how useful the extension of professional adult services would benefit us all by alleviating some of the sexual frustrations, kink frenzy, et al, that drives so much socially annoying behaviors? I mean, the ideal will be when there's also the FuckBot 3000 in the mix, helping to keep many of the more socially problematic people contentedly at home & offline & out of everybody's hair . . . . . . .

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Ack, a little cynical of me, right? Eh, ah well . . . . . *shrugs, turns, strolls away*

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sappatoti -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 12:08:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain
Quite frankly I am sick of them because it's a waste of my time.

Some might state they come here because this site is a waste of time; frivolous and much needed time away from the more serious aspects of their lives. Some might even find the profiles of the pros to be amusing or entertaining in many ways. For those seeking escape from their banal existence, these pros may be just what they need to get a grip.

If those profiles tend to be a waste of your time, there are "Block" and "Hide" buttons to help you regain it.

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ORIGINAL: Brain
There are other websites especially for them and they really should go there.

There are also other websites and online groups where posting "advertisements" are strictly forbidden. Perhaps that might be an option for those here who would prefer a more "pure" environment.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain
If we wanted to pay for it, first of all they are a dime a dozen and secondly people here are looking for relationships.

I would not have any first-hand knowledge as to the number and availability of pros. I do not seek them out for their services. With regards to your second point, the last I checked, I am a people and I am not looking for a relationship here. I cannot speak for others as to whether they consider themselves to be people, but I know many here who also are not looking for relationships.

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ORIGINAL: Brain
I think if the owners of this site want it to continue to succeed they will keep those who are not interested in profit as their number one priority. People here for the money make the site less appealing and a more bitter experience although there may be some exceptions so I guess I agree with her.

And you know this because A) you are one of the owners or B) you have personally spoken to one of the owners on this matter?

The fact that this site employs ads on their pages indicates that they are in need of revenue to keep this site operational. Right now, they can present themselves to potential advertisers based upon the number of profiles of active members they have. More active profiles means more eyeballs looking at pages means more potential targets for the ads. This may or may not be the impetus behind CollarMe's use of ads but having some knowledge of how this advertising works in general, the last thing this site would want to do is to reduce the number of profiles it claims are active. Instead, they would most likely would want to increase the number of profiles, from as large a cross-section of this segment of the population as possible, so as to draw more recognizable sponsors with their, hopefully, higher paying ads.

All for the purpose of providing a space to us, at no charge, where we can argue the concepts of "free vs. pay-for-play."

I.D.I.C.




sappatoti -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 12:12:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ncbabe
I'm half Irish.  Does that mean that half the time I'm telling the truth and half the time I'm not?

Then I'm in a heap of trouble, as Irish is but a wee part of my makeup.

No wonder my brain is in such turmoil... having to reconcile all of the lies and deceit I mostly spread with my Irish blood.




Jill805 -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 12:17:33 PM)

Pro Dommes are not a problem for me.  At least they are honest and upfront which is more than I can say for some on here.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 12:41:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
I hope it's obvious how useful the extension of professional adult services would benefit us all by alleviating some of the sexual frustrations, kink frenzy, et al, that drives so much socially annoying behaviors? I mean, the ideal will be when there's also the FuckBot 3000 in the mix, helping to keep many of the more socially problematic people contentedly at home & offline & out of everybody's hair . . . . . . .


I had a "friends only" social profile here for years.  What finally caused me to remove it was the constant deluge of rude, crude, sexually explicit emails demanding my time and attention.  I rewrote my profile to be less and less open and friendly because of it, and eventually it got to the point that I realized I simply didn't like the person I was becoming in my profile in response to that kind of pressure.  Nice people I would like to be friends with don't deserve an angry, defensive attitude, but because the nice people are a tiny minority of the people who write to women here, my profile here was being influenced a lot more by the sexually frustrated and aggressive majority.  There was just no way to get away from that, so I finally opted out. 

What they wanted - actually, what they expected and demanded from me - just wasn't fair.  Overwhelmingly all they wanted was to take and not to give.  They said over and over again what they wanted, what they needed, what got their dicks hard, without a word about me or what I might be personally interested in.  I wasn't even treated as a real human being with wants and needs of my own, just some kind of adjunct to a fetish delivery system, or a drive-through McDomme's who existed only to cater to their whims.  Occasionally they got aggressive in ways that probably qualified legally as assault, complete with actual threats of battery when I expressed a firm non-interest.  Yes, I reported those.  It didn't help.

When I was not a pro, I was very deeply grateful for the existence of pros.  For better or worse, there are a LOT of men on this site who are absolutely not prepared to be in a relationship or even to treat a dominant woman like an actual human being.  They have fetish needs and they want them sated NOW.  Their own need screams too loudly for them to even be able to see another person's existence, let alone consider her needs and wants.  Pros who will trade the satisfaction of those needs for a simple commodity are desperately needed to handle some of this deluge and keep it out of the inboxes of women it's really not fair to.  Giving and getting has to go both ways, and if you are really overwhelmed by the desperate do-mes, eventually you may just give up and leave.

As it is, with plenty of professionals out there, it's still bad enough to drive a lot of non-pro women off of the site.  Ban the pros and it would be much, much worse.  I certainly would not have lasted as long as I did here if *all* of the frustrated, needy, but totally non-relationship-suited men had no quick and easy outlet available to them at all.  With pros in our midst, at least the "fair trade" option is available to the men who are able to give money but not kindness and consideration for others.  I think that having that option available is absolutely crucial if you actually want women to stay on this site and not be driven off even more quickly and put under even more pressure than they already are.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 2:52:24 PM)

Amen to that.
Kevin




lobodomslavery -> RE: Is now the time to ban pro Dommes from Collarme or should we just live and let live (11/12/2009 2:53:27 PM)

None
Thanks for asking
Kevin




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