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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 8:59:04 PM   
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Someone recently likened it to hypnotism...



Not hypnotism... just conditioning and association.



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 8:59:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are inaccurate in several areas...my beliefs are based on many things.....others do share my point of view....i didn't pompously state anything.... i made a comment on a thread. i didn't belittle anyone ...you however did....

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:00:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well that is absolute hogwash. It is actually the other way around. No woman can cum without at least mental stimulation. Few is able to do it alone on that but requires mechanical stimulation as well.
It is the same for men really. When a guy jacks off he is mechanically stimulating himself. But his mind is on something of a sexual nature. Mænd can as such think it up. They can't raise it without thinking. Ok their mindset can be extremely primitive in that moment
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all women have the ability to cum without any stimulation. are natural erotic energy blocked by all that we have been told.
this girl will not debate with anyone....she is always stimulated and can cum anywhere anytime any place....thinking of her Master.
HE took her natural erotic energy trained her to please Him. Why would any one want to stop a woman a slave a sub from orgasm....how unnatural
what a perfect way to keep one from being able to orgasm at al.....



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:02:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		MasterSlaveLA, its possible that its the sub speaking in breathasone, then it wouldn't really have anything to do with her training anyone else to do it. Perhaps her body just isn't responsive to it? I know that you are very adamant that O Control is possible, but I doubt it is for everyone - even if they are 100% willing.

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:07:47 PM   
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....my beliefs are based on many things...
 

 
Could care less what your beliefs are "based on"... two in this thread alone have posted your "beliefs" are false.


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...others do share my point of view....
 


Others think BDSM is a sickness... so just because "others" think something to be true, does not make it so.  Again, you stated being able to cum-on-command is "plain crap" and a "myth".  YOU'RE WRONG!!!



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:11:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well its certainly apparent we disagree on this, let me just say i feel like you are blessed to have experienced it. i'm not saying i'll never experience it ...but i'm not holding my breath either.

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:11:58 PM   
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MasterSlaveLA, its possible that its the sub speaking in breathasone, then it wouldn't really have anything to do with her training anyone else to do it. Perhaps her body just isn't responsive to it? I know that you are very adamant that O Control is possible, but I doubt it is for everyone - even if they are 100% willing.



Would you state something is "plain crap" and a "myth" if you knew little of it?  I doubt it.  And so, it matters not what side of the slash someone is on.  One simply doesn't state something they have no experience or knowledge of.  That's part of the point I'm making here, if that helps?



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:14:52 PM   
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MasterSlaveLA, its possible that its the sub speaking in breathasone, then it wouldn't really have anything to do with her training anyone else to do it. Perhaps her body just isn't responsive to it? I know that you are very adamant that O Control is possible, but I doubt it is for everyone - even if they are 100% willing.



Would you state something is "plain crap" and a "myth" if you knew little of it?  I doubt it.  And so, it matters not what side of the slash someone is on.  One simply doesn't state something they have no experience or knowledge of.  That's part of the point I'm making here, if that helps?



When did i say i "knew little of it?"....i've not achieved it, i've said that....


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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:16:09 PM   
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Well its certainly apparent we disagree on this, let me just say i feel like you are blessed to have experienced it. i'm not saying i'll never experience it ...but i'm not holding my breath either.


Just do a bit of research into this... if you do, I think you'll later be pleased to find yourself "holding your breath" thinking, "HOLY FUCK... WHAT WAS THAT?!!  MASTER... DO IT AGAIN... AND AGAIN... AND AGAIN!!!" 



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:20:06 PM   
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....i've not achieved it, i've said that....



Then you've got some homework to do, haven't you?!! 


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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:21:18 PM   
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Well its certainly apparent we disagree on this, let me just say i feel like you are blessed to have experienced it. i'm not saying i'll never experience it ...but i'm not holding my breath either.


Just do a bit of research into this... if you do, I think you'll later be pleased to find yourself "holding your breath" thinking, "HOLY FUCK... WHAT WAS THAT?!!  MASTER... DO IT AGAIN... AND AGAIN... AND AGAIN!!!" 



i have...TRUST me... and i've talked to SEVERAL "s" types live and in person....that have told me they went along with it because their "D" type was SO excited and wanted it so badly. So i REALLY didn't mean to sound rude...and i see now i may have...but from where i sit, it looks like a parlor trick some girls do to make their "D" types happy.Not saying all....but i admit to being skeptical


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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:25:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well... im one of those urban legends, i suppose. I cum on command. I can even squirt by command... but it takes a few orgasms to lead up to that point. No, i dont require stimulation anymore, initially, i did... and alot of denial.

Bringing a woman to the edge, then denying them, repeatedly, can help initiate the experience. Im not speaking of a day, more like a week or two, the whole time keeping the teasing and torment to an exquisite level.

It was a frustrating, maddening, almost painful experience. But i am reaping the rewards now... ~grins

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:28:39 PM   
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Someone who has been teased and is incredibly aroused might be able to do it.  But I demand proof that you can take someone, even an easily orgasmic s-type woman, and have her orgasm on command with nothing else.  Especially if she has just spent the past three hours cleaning up after the kids and the dogs and the D-type, scrubbing the kitchen floor, and scraping the remains of a rotted frog from under her child's bed.  Walking up to even the most orgasmic and submissive woman then and say "Cum!"  and you may well be more likely to get the frogslime thrown at you, rather than her orgasming.


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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 9:32:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry. I hate to bust your bubble, but i would orgasm. As much as it is a diservice to say that all subs/slaves should be able to achieve this.... its just as wrong to say no one can.

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 10:02:34 PM   
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I didn't say no one could.  I just said I'd like to see it.


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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 10:18:36 PM   
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I didn't say no one could.  I just said I'd like to see it.

Me too! XD

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 11:02:39 PM   
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Well its certainly apparent we disagree on this, let me just say i feel like you are blessed to have experienced it. i'm not saying i'll never experience it ...but i'm not holding my breath either.


Just do a bit of research into this... if you do, I think you'll later be pleased to find yourself "holding your breath" thinking, "HOLY FUCK... WHAT WAS THAT?!!  MASTER... DO IT AGAIN... AND AGAIN... AND AGAIN!!!" 



i have...TRUST me... and i've talked to SEVERAL "s" types live and in person....that have told me they went along with it because their "D" type was SO excited and wanted it so badly. So i REALLY didn't mean to sound rude...and i see now i may have...but from where i sit, it looks like a parlor trick some girls do to make their "D" types happy.Not saying all....but i admit to being skeptical



1.  It takes more... MUCH MORE... than a Toppy one simply "wanting" it ('badly' or otherwise0... that's why it's called TRAINING.  Thus, in order to "train", one must know HOW to train;  not just "want" it. I might "want" to be able to paint a beautiful picture, but I'd need some "training" to be able to do so.  Same thing.

2.  Again, not a parlor trick... very real... and very trainable; if one knows HOW to train another to cum-on-command.



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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 11:06:39 PM   
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Your comments are complete bullshit and based on your own personal inabilities; and as such, are neither valid or reflective of reality. 

So, only your experiences are valid and reflect reality?  The experiences of everyone else here are nothing compared to your vastly superior knowledge of the topic, and everyone else should just shut up and do as you tell them?  I wonder if someone has been living in "Dom-land" for just a bit too long. 

This will be my first post, usually I'm content to just listen, but I couldn't just sit here and let that slide.  It is the culmination of every individual's personal experiences that creates their very own, unique perception of reality, not one person telling the rest of us how to think, feel, and believe.

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 11:08:40 PM   
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Showing your entire quote (the part in bold) only makes you look WORSE, as (i) it's condescending, and (ii) has ZERO to do with not having "surrendered enough".  You simply have no idea what you're talking about.  Example:  Consider again those "s types" who can't cum from pain... and extend to them that they "can't reach this plateau of greatness... and must not be in tune enough with their D type".  That's condescending as fuck!!!  So once again, don't blame your personal shortcomings as "plain crap" or "myth" because you lack the skills to train a willing sub/slave to cum-on-command.  Others do not share your failing.


The original post your responding to here was - unless I'm mistaken - sarcastically stated as what "not being able to cum on command" would imply. The poster themself was not making the statement, merely pointing the implied value out. I can understand how it would make a 's' girl feel lesser from not being able to perform in this way - especially if their 'd' type wanted them to quite badly.

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RE: Orgasm Control - how to? - 11/16/2009 11:17:56 PM   
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Again, you stated being able to cum-on-command is "plain crap" and a "myth".  YOU'RE WRONG!!!

Agreed. I don't know why you keep arguing with breathasone. They're full of crap and it's clear.
As I already said in this thread, as have others, it IS possible to train a female to orgasm from a command such as a word or gesture. I don't know about EVERY female, because I haven't tried it on every female. But it definitely can be done with some!


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