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Deicide -> Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 10:15:01 AM)

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...6VF2g2Xeg.cspx

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

The billboard had gone up Tuesday afternoon at Reading Road and 12th Street, one block south of Liberty Street and it is being moved to a new site Thursday at the Sixth Street Viaduct.

The group that funded the billboard, the United Coalition of Reason, was contacted by Lamar Advertising of Cincinnati. Lamar reported that the landowner of the site had been threatened over the billboard's message and wanted it taken down.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."
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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 10:20:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Deicide

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...6VF2g2Xeg.cspx

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

The billboard had gone up Tuesday afternoon at Reading Road and 12th Street, one block south of Liberty Street and it is being moved to a new site Thursday at the Sixth Street Viaduct.

The group that funded the billboard, the United Coalition of Reason, was contacted by Lamar Advertising of Cincinnati. Lamar reported that the landowner of the site had been threatened over the billboard's message and wanted it taken down.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."
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Your subject line is curious since nowhere in the article are the threats attributed to Christians.




Kirata -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 10:31:43 AM)

Updated Link

Interestingly, the WCPO headline is "Godless Billboard Moved After Threats". Presumably all the other Cincinnati billboards believe in God.

K.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 10:35:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Updated Link

Interestingly, the WCPO headline is "Godless Billboard Moved After Threats". Presumably all the other Cincinnati billboards believe in God.

K.




I think its 84% of them that believe in god. (Or at least, as Dennett says, proclaim that they believe in god.)




Raiikun -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 11:18:49 AM)

Someone makes a bigoted generalization against Christians...big suprise.




popeye1250 -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 11:56:48 AM)

Sounds like there could be some "smiting" going on!
Of course if you "smite someone "in the name of God" it's "o.k."




breatheasone -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 1:05:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deicide

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...6VF2g2Xeg.cspx

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

The billboard had gone up Tuesday afternoon at Reading Road and 12th Street, one block south of Liberty Street and it is being moved to a new site Thursday at the Sixth Street Viaduct.

The group that funded the billboard, the United Coalition of Reason, was contacted by Lamar Advertising of Cincinnati. Lamar reported that the landowner of the site had been threatened over the billboard's message and wanted it taken down.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."
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Man, its so sad that free speach isn't more respected in the very country that supposedly champions it! Hopefully people will see this for what it is, and Americans will support each others right to differ, as opposed to making threats because we do.




tazzygirl -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 1:30:53 PM)

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CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."

The new location on the 6th Street Expressway, U.S. Highway 50, is owned by Lamar and therefore isn't subject to landowner restrictions.

Lamar Advertising's general manager tells 9News the owner of the property received threats and asked for its removal.

"Apparently they were vicious threats of some kind. I don't know the exact nature of the threats but yes," said Welte.

The billboard was moved to a location now viewed by drivers heading west on the Sixth Street viaduct. Some say they find it offensive.

"My thoughts? I think the sign needs to come down. Its atheist. Its going to cause problems around all the churches, not just catholic, but lutheran, baptist, all of them," said Jack Jones of Downtown.

"We are dealing with it the best way we can. We are not going away so talk to us," said Welte.



Sounds like they werent getting enough attention and decided to promote some. They dont even say who the threats came from, or what kind. Just that they didnt persue them. Ahem... if someone was making threats badly enough to me for me to have to move a huge sign, you bet i would be talking.




Aylee -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 2:21:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."

The new location on the 6th Street Expressway, U.S. Highway 50, is owned by Lamar and therefore isn't subject to landowner restrictions.

Lamar Advertising's general manager tells 9News the owner of the property received threats and asked for its removal.

"Apparently they were vicious threats of some kind. I don't know the exact nature of the threats but yes," said Welte.

The billboard was moved to a location now viewed by drivers heading west on the Sixth Street viaduct. Some say they find it offensive.

"My thoughts? I think the sign needs to come down. Its atheist. Its going to cause problems around all the churches, not just catholic, but lutheran, baptist, all of them," said Jack Jones of Downtown.

"We are dealing with it the best way we can. We are not going away so talk to us," said Welte.



Sounds like they werent getting enough attention and decided to promote some. They dont even say who the threats came from, or what kind. Just that they didnt persue them. Ahem... if someone was making threats badly enough to me for me to have to move a huge sign, you bet i would be talking.


Well. . . it was the landowner who was receiving the threats.  The landowner told LAMAR, the billboard leasing company, who then informed the UCR that they needed to move the billboard. 

Which LAMAR did. 

So. . . just HOW was the UCR supposed to get that information?




tazzygirl -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 4:21:24 PM)

Come on, you mean even his general manager didnt know what threats were issued? please.




Lorr47 -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 5:02:08 PM)

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Your subject line is curious since nowhere in the article are the threats attributed to Christians.
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Deicide




Your subject line is curious since nowhere in the article are the threats attributed to Christians.


Yeh.  We all know that it was that pesky Dali Lama (sic).




Aylee -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 5:55:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Come on, you mean even his general manager didnt know what threats were issued? please.


Which general manager?  Lamar's?  Or the UCR? 

And no. . . it sounds correct to me. 




AnimusRex -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:00:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Interestingly, the WCPO headline is "Godless Billboard Moved After Threats". Presumably all the other Cincinnati billboards believe in God.
K.[/font][/size]


OK, thanks for providing the laugh.




thishereboi -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:41:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."

The new location on the 6th Street Expressway, U.S. Highway 50, is owned by Lamar and therefore isn't subject to landowner restrictions.

Lamar Advertising's general manager tells 9News the owner of the property received threats and asked for its removal.

"Apparently they were vicious threats of some kind. I don't know the exact nature of the threats but yes," said Welte.

The billboard was moved to a location now viewed by drivers heading west on the Sixth Street viaduct. Some say they find it offensive.

"My thoughts? I think the sign needs to come down. Its atheist. Its going to cause problems around all the churches, not just catholic, but lutheran, baptist, all of them," said Jack Jones of Downtown.

"We are dealing with it the best way we can. We are not going away so talk to us," said Welte.



Sounds like they werent getting enough attention and decided to promote some. They dont even say who the threats came from, or what kind. Just that they didnt persue them. Ahem... if someone was making threats badly enough to me for me to have to move a huge sign, you bet i would be talking.


Good point and if they really were worried about the threats, why did they put it back up somewhere else? How ever if it was true, then I agree that is not the way "christians" are supposed to act. Unfortunately there are assholes in every group.




Aylee -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:44:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


Good point and if they really were worried about the threats, why did they put it back up somewhere else? How ever if it was true, then I agree that is not the way "christians" are supposed to act. Unfortunately there are assholes in every group.



Because the land where it was originally did NOT belong to Lamar.  And the threats were against the land/land owner.  Lamar moved the billboard onto land that THEY owned. 





tazzygirl -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:45:52 PM)

exactly... lol. seems like there really isnt that dire a threat out there if he is willing to take on the risk for himself and not disclose what the threats are or who they are coming from. some people are so anti-christian that they cant see beyond that word to the possibility of other intentions.




dcnovice -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:47:27 PM)

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some people are so anti-christian that they cant see beyond that word to the possibility of other intentions.


I'm not sure what you mean by "other intentions" in this situation.




tazzygirl -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:49:36 PM)

thank you... lol. im sure you wouldnt see other intentions.




Icarys -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:52:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deicide

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...6VF2g2Xeg.cspx

CINCINNATI -- In the wake of multiple, significant threats, the downtown billboard that says “Don’t Believe In God? You are not alone” came down early Thursday morning.

The billboard had gone up Tuesday afternoon at Reading Road and 12th Street, one block south of Liberty Street and it is being moved to a new site Thursday at the Sixth Street Viaduct.

The group that funded the billboard, the United Coalition of Reason, was contacted by Lamar Advertising of Cincinnati. Lamar reported that the landowner of the site had been threatened over the billboard's message and wanted it taken down.

"We weren't given the landowner's identity or precise details," reported Fred Edwords, national director of the United Coalition of Reason. "Nor did we pursue them. It was sufficient to learn that multiple, significant threats had been received and that Lamar would act quickly to alleviate the problem. Lamar was most apologetic to us regarding the situation. It was a development they hadn't expected. Nor had we. Nothing like this has ever happened to us before."

"Everything that has happened shows just how vital our message is," said Shawn Jeffers, co-coordinator for the Cincinnati Coalition of Reason. "It proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god is still very real in America. Only when we atheists, agnostics and humanists come together and go public about our views will people have a chance to learn that we too are part of the community and deserve respect."
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Everyone that hates or spreads hate and intolerance out of irrational stances on either side are idiots as far as I'm concerned




dcnovice -> RE: Christians threaten violence...big surprise (11/14/2009 6:53:13 PM)

So educate me. What "other intentions" do you see?




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