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angelic -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 2:59:38 PM)
collar... if i ever am... LOL...it will mean significantly more to me than my wedding ring did. It will be an acknowledgment of who i have been all my life and my wedding ring didn't do that.

Level -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 3:05:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress very good question, Level, thank you. I see a collar as a personal and intimate symbol of a bond between the giver and wearer. The collar signifies an agreement of power sharing reached mutually. The bond it represents has as many specific definitions as it has givers and wearers. I see a wedding ring as a legal and/or religious symbol of the joining of two people as partners and lifemates. Thank you, Tress, for answering. I agree with what you said, btw. Level

OscarHargraves -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 3:32:39 PM)
I would think that they are of equal importance but in totally different ways. One is a heart given freely and speaks of a partnership of bodies and spirits. The collar however is the body given into servitude (no matter what form) and almost totally the opposite of a partnership. How each one plays at any given time or on any given day is determined by the individual involved. I think the very luckiest ladies are the ones who have been married and collared by the same man and who want nothing more than to be where they are right now. The two seperate 'halves' coming together and making that person whole and happy.

smilezz -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 4:07:33 PM)
quote: big smilezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Why yes i am, thank you chucklez As far as the meaning behind a collar goes. I knew i would wear this Man's collar forever and be His forever, regardless of marriage. I now wear Thornsz wedding ring also, it did not change anything, as a matter of fact, this is one of the things i discussed with Him before we did get married. I wanted to always make sure that as His slave, that was and is what i am/remain. We both have been down the road of dizaster before, we did not want to head there again. I wear His collar, He owns this girl........i wear His wedding ring, He owns this girl. The only difference? legalities. Happy Sunday.... ~smilezz~

truesub4u -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 4:19:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: smilezz quote: big smilezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Why yes i am, thank you chucklez A The only difference? legalities. Happy Sunday.... ~smilezz~ Smilezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I love that.... And damn legalities... gets' you ever time... that's why we're going both on same day. We're still hashing out how to be able to do this with mixed company though...LOL

Level -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 4:37:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truesub4u And damn legalities... gets' you ever time... that's why we're going both on same day. We're still hashing out how to be able to do this with mixed company though...LOL Congratulations on BOTH. smiles Level

proudsub -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/12/2006 4:39:52 PM)
We discussed it once and Hubby said i don't need a collar since i have a ring, so i only wear a collar in my mind.

dincubus -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 1:30:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Just curious about how others feel on this........do you see a collar as being equal to, less than, or more valuable than a wedding ring? Or do you even see the two as being in the same category? Level personally i see a collar being important in a completely different way that a wedding ring. the ring itself implies a different committment to a relationship than a collar. in some ways a wedding ring says that you will love honor and obey your spouse in a more nilla way. where as a collar signifies a complete submission to the person you are collared to. while some may disagree, the wedding ring is more for the nilla world and the collar is more for the BDSM world. least that is my opinion

IronBear -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 2:01:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dincubus quote: ORIGINAL: Level Just curious about how others feel on this........do you see a collar as being equal to, less than, or more valuable than a wedding ring? Or do you even see the two as being in the same category? Level personally i see a collar being important in a completely different way that a wedding ring. the ring itself implies a different committment to a relationship than a collar. in some ways a wedding ring says that you will love honor and obey your spouse in a more nilla way. where as a collar signifies a complete submission to the person you are collared to. while some may disagree, the wedding ring is more for the nilla world and the collar is more for the BDSM world. least that is my opinion I would agree with you only in relationship to the more mainline or traditional Religious weddings and the wedding ring. For me , a wedding ring is a talisman, an item designed to bind soul to soul and made/blesed using arcane rites, as th wedding rins my Wife/Free Companion has from me, was so worked..... LoR was not wrong regarding the power of rings.... The collar designates my propertyor the property of House Iron Bear or any other owner and is to be respected... Were it to happen that I both married and collared the same girl. we would be bound in ways which can never be broken.

sweetpettjenny -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 3:06:36 AM)
Both the collar and wedding band have huge signifigance to me , although they have two different meanings. I struggle internally with this battle every so often . I do wish to be married again( to the person who holds my collar). I do want/need the collar and have it. I long to be married by the person who owns my heart, and hope he can keep true to the definitions of how we began( as Master/slave). I can have one without the other, for soo long and then the need to be married eventually will creep in i think...

orfunboi -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 3:14:42 AM)
To me they both represent commitment to whomever you are promised to. For me personally, i can go out and get collared to the women of my choice, so that is a dream i have. It still illegal for me to marry, so i don't think about that much.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 8:21:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Just curious about how others feel on this........do you see a collar as being equal to, less than, or more valuable than a wedding ring? Or do you even see the two as being in the same category? Level I see both of these as having as much value as the people involved give them. I have a partner that would love to be married. But to me, to be considered married by the government means nothing but a difficult time later if we decided to go seperate ways. My slave considers her collar to be of far more value then her wedding ring. The ring now, is just a representative of a past relationship that was doomed to fail from the start where her collar represents what she truely is on the inside.

NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 8:27:48 AM)
quote: Just curious about how others feel on this........do you see a collar as being equal to, less than, or more valuable than a wedding ring? Or do you even see the two as being in the same category? To me, they are not even in the same category. One signifies lifelong partnership, love and equality, whereas a collar need not necessarily denote any of that. A collar signifies submission, on one level or another. It is possible that to some a collar would signify the same thing as a wedding ring, but for most I believe it differs.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 8:40:50 AM)
it's the little things that make a difference. e.g.: "next of kin"--Master is in the hospital after a terrible accident, whoever is wearing his collar will not be given any where near the same consideration as the one wearing his wedding ring as far as information given, being allowed to visit, make decisions, etc. "extra driver"--Master has occasion to rent a car, to be allowed as an extra driver, whoever is wearing his collar must have a credit card in their own name and, depending upon the car company, Master must pay an extra service fee(20-50$), whoever wears His wedding ring is covered by His card and there is no extra fee. having unmentionables together some insurance options or rates filing taxes and all of the other "practical" reasons folks give for getting married, as opposed to staying single in the eyes of the "law". the collar this slave wears is MOST important to her, more so than any wedding ring she has ever worn or will ever wear and it isn't the "collar" itself, it is the man who put it there and HIS feelings about ownership of a slave vs. marriage that make the difference for this slave. this slave will always be His slave and possession first, everything else works out AFTER that.

Elegant -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 12:10:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Just curious about how others feel on this........do you see a collar as being equal to, less than, or more valuable than a wedding ring? Or do you even see the two as being in the same category? Level I have two physical collars: 1. The one around my neck. (OK..so I really have three different ones of these) 2. The miniature collar on my left ring finger. The neck collar came first followed by the finger collar 5 years later. Valuable?...Im sure you are not refering to monetary value..<i>grin</i> The slave collar plays a more important role in my life.

SweetEscravo -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 12:18:39 PM)
It seems to me that they mean almost the same thing, but to different people. The wedding ring is the vanilla way of saying "I'm commited to another person...here is a symbol of it for everyone to see." The collar is saying the same thing, but it is understood by a different group of people. I don't think one is more or less important, and a couple can definitly have one without the other...they are just two ways of saying the same thing.

BitaTruble -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 1:16:28 PM)
quote: "I'm commited to another person...here is a symbol of it for everyone to see." The collar is saying the same thing, but it is understood by a different group of people. I agree with the first part of this to a point. I don't, however, see the collar saying that at all. To me, the collar says 'I am owned', period and for Himself it says, 'I own her', period. Daily, I have to continue to earn it so that I may be allowed to keep it. I respect your viewpoint, mine just differs and I see the collar as vastly different than the wedding ring. For me, a collar is understood by the two people whom it effects. The fact that submissive men and women are collared, slaves are collared, bottoms are collared but all have differing ideas of what their orientation means to them really prohibits anyone else from really understanding what it means. Add velcro collars to that, slaves removing their own collars, collars of the week, training collars.. the list goes on. Some people place more value on a collar than a wedding ring, some place no value on a collar at all.. it's just super neato to wear one during a 'play' time. When I see someone who is collared, my mind automatically says.. "owned'.. and that's not usually the case, so I've learned not to make assumptions just because someone is wearing a collar. I've put my foot in mouth to many times with Dommes who like collars around their necks because it looks good and matches their outfits. All that said, I don't even have something which can go around my neck, I have a tattoo and a bracelet which are the symbols of the collar wrapped around my power, so if I walk into a dungeon, you'd be hard pressed to be able to locate my collar anyway, but that wedding ring is right there on my left hand for all to see. Celeste

Level -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 3:36:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elegant Valuable?...Im sure you are not refering to monetary value..<i>grin</i> The slave collar plays a more important role in my life. Nope, not monetary value smiles. Level

scratchingpost -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (3/13/2006 3:43:32 PM)
i think it depends on the relationship. in some cases it is equal to a wedding ring in others who dole them out like candy less and for those who do not believe in marriage and only desire to give or recieve a collar once as a permanant bond so much more. it is easier to dissolve some marriages than some non legal binding bdsm relationship. symbolism is interpreted by each persons perspective.... if i ever give a collar to my slave it would mean that he has pleased me and that i cherish and love him beyond all conventional senses and that he has achieved a special place in my life that i never desire to be without it would represent that i have found who completes me and who i feel could serve me for the long haul. i might play with many but i have not collared any. nor have i ever been collared. i wont accept a collar unless i feel i deserve it and have earned that sacred place in my Masters life. id also like to note that while i can have a collar without a wedding ring...i cant have a wedding ring without a collar. i think to me the collar is more meaningful but hey that is only my view....

cariad -> RE: Collar vs wedding ring (4/9/2006 8:52:34 PM)
Level: You bring up a very good question .... for girl a collar is just the same as a wedding band but more in that when girl is given a collar, just like a wedding ring it only comes off when she has a shower or bath as it is something to be cherished. when girl was married to her now ex husband she never took her ring off except to have a bath/shower or to do the dishes. when girls former Owner collared her in real life she never took the collar off except with His permission and even then only to go to bed at night. girl believes a collar is just like the wedding band as it symbolizes the love two people have for each other and should be cherished until such time as the Owner releases her or she begs release, or heaven forbid one of us passes away. hope this helps You a bit. Blessed Be

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