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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/22/2009 9:31:21 PM   
porcelain20


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Status: offline 		i think its pointless for a sub to give over their passwords...if its based on..."how do i know what you're doing in those accounts"...then the dom does not trust the sub so why should the sub trust the dom?

i've given out my passwords before in different relationships and its always a pain afterwards changing the passwords when the relationship is over.

theres always a possibility of a sub creating accounts and not telling their dom about it...i just dont believe if a dom has to ask for passwords there is no trust..

but in some relationships the handing over of passwords works great for them, i'm just saying it hasn't worked for me and i probably will stay away from doing it again

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/22/2009 10:07:48 PM   
Renee7852


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I think IF the relationship is at the point where a password is asked for then it is not unreasonable for both passwords to be exchanged. I was with a Dom for nearly 7 years and totally trusted him.....keys to the house, passwords, etc. I also, with a bit of asking, got his password to his MSM account. I was 110% above board and honest in that relationship. Had I not asked for the password and *snooped* in his recently deleted file I would have never found out what an UNhonest person he was. Admitted, it was not very submissive of me, but........I listened to my woman's intuitiion and I am glad I did. I do like Lady Angelika's idea of random spot checking. (btw our relationship was a mutually agreed upon monogamous one.... on my part...not his LOL....he *changed his mind* on the monogamy thing and forgot to tell me).

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 12:51:52 AM   
beltainefaerie


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't have issue with it, but my Master has not asked for my passwords to anything.  I don't have any need for his passwords either.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 6:05:40 AM   
OrionTheWolf


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Status: offline 		Not sure what others will say, but my point is that my girl owns, and has no ultimate control over the things that happen on a daily basis. Everything from her routine, daily tasks, when she eats, drinks and uses the restroom, are set by me. The program I now use, instills more of an Internal Enslavement .

Yes they can get a second account, but if their free time is limited, and monitored, as well as computer time monitored, then the chance of that is cut down. I trust my girl to not create accounts without my prior permission. She knows that due to things that happened with a previous slave, I will not tolerate willful disobedience in the slightest.


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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What would be the point of requiring CM passwords?

The girl could just get a second account.

Things like that are only the illusion of control.


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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 7:27:13 AM   
Musicmystery


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I trust my girl to not create accounts without my prior permission.


This is really the key point.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 8:24:19 AM   
LPslittleclip


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Status: offline 		my Mistress asked for my password and i gave it to Her i trust my Mistress i do not have Her account acces and dont want it, i have no need of it. if theres something that my Mistress wants me to know She will telll me. my wife has the same thing with my accounts she has full knowledge and disclosure.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 8:34:58 AM   
happysea


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Status: offline 		It is possible to give your password to your dominant. You have to realize tought that your Dominant does not want to date with *an other person * -you doing things behind them. That means you have to be willing to be honnest and real. There are 2 more things u have to think of before giving your password:
the first thing is : make sure that your Dominant is a good person,
second: does your Dominant has negative emotional links with your profiles cz of trust issues? If your Dominant thinks negatively about you right now cz of negative emotional links that have build up from the past it is better to earn Her/His trust back.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 8:44:19 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		I always find it interesting that people will gleefully give themselves over to activities that could kill them, open their hearts, but freak out at the mention of giving access to email or, god forbid, finances.

In my world, if a person considers themselves an owned slave, then they should be transparent in these things. To give a body over for use but hold back something else, is still retaining control and, to me, then not a slave.

Obviously the above is simply my opinion and expectations. What others do is their business.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 11/23/2009 8:47:15 AM >

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 9:57:30 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		I mean, Christ, if I wanted to look at a slave's account, I'd just have her show me.

Seems simple enough.

Then I'd wonder why I didn't have better things to do.


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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 10:05:27 AM   
windchymes


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Status: offline 		That sure takes all the cryptological fun out of trying to hack in.......

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 10:56:12 AM   
LaTigresse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I mean, Christ, if I wanted to look at a slave's account, I'd just have her show me.

Seems simple enough.

Then I'd wonder why I didn't have better things to do.



That's kind of my thinking also. Never understood why it was all such a big deal.


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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 4:20:06 PM   
heartcream


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Status: offline 		Yeah sure I would give over my information if I had a man who wanted it. I would wonder if he would be bored though. I would be touched if he reciprocated but I dont think I would feel like I would insist on it. Most important would be that I would feel enough trust for him. I have had guys contact me that said they were taken in their profile and it felt kind of sad that they were snooping around me. I can imagine how it would feel if I was the partner and finding out my man was out scoping other women behind my back. Yowch. I would not get with a guy who was with someone though.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 5:08:47 PM   
kanina


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Status: offline 		I never gave any passwords, instead, and that never happen either, would show what was in those accounts...

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 5:41:24 PM   
kasumi


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Status: offline 		I think that creating a joint account might be a good compromise for something like this. If there was a breakup, the dom could easily screw with the subs life and I think its pretty unreasonable to ask your sub to hand over their passwords - especially considering its against site rules. 

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 5:43:05 PM   
Aylee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kasumi

I think that creating a joint account might be a good compromise for something like this. If there was a breakup, the dom could easily screw with the subs life and I think its pretty unreasonable to ask your sub to hand over their passwords - especially considering its against site rules. 


Well. . . if there was a break-up, why wouldn't the s-type just change their passwords? 

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 5:54:27 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		I don't quite understand why people get into relationships with people they don't trust with something as simple as a password.

So you break up...change the password.


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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 6:01:54 PM   
kasumi


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Status: offline 		Aylee -True, but isn't it also possible that the Dom would get to it and change it first? 

< Message edited by kasumi -- 11/23/2009 6:03:05 PM >

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 6:09:10 PM   
xssve


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Status: offline 		It would never occur to me to ask for a password - if you're gonna fuck around you're gonna fuck around, I'm not a babysitter.

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 6:49:19 PM   
AquaticSub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: supportourtroops

Feelings on giving your DOM your passwords to mail accounts and cm?
Do you feel the DOM should be required to also give you his then?
How soon into the relationship should this be given?


Val doesn't have all my passwords to all my accounts (though he does have the ones he actually needs or I need him to be able to access, ie. bank accounts since we have joint finaces) because A) he doesn't care about them and B) he doesn't need them. All he needs to do is tell me to log in and he can read anything he wants. No big deal.

In regards to passwords though, I don't always think a dom/owner should be able to access all accounts simply because some messages I am sent are private and meant for my eyes only. We do not feel his power extends to my friends and therefore, their privacy is respected. As long as their confidental information does not affect him or our relationship, there is no reason he needs to know and he knows he can trust me to determine what he needs to know.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 11/23/2009 6:54:21 PM >

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RE: Giving Over Your Passwords - 11/23/2009 7:40:48 PM   
redwoodgirl


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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

Wow- that is sooo not cool, involving others in your kink without their prior consent. Ew.

It's not a "kink", it's a facet of her relationship. Heaven forbid a gay man had to let the teller know he wanted his "lover" to have access to the account too and douse the bank employee in his "kink" also.






Yeah. What he said.

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